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“If I’m ready to go Friday (against the Washington Wizards), I’m going to go,” Smart said. “If not, it’s early in the season, we are not going to try to force anything. Hopefully, we will get me out there for (the following game).”

Smart still doesn’t know how the injury occurred. He said he felt some discomfort when the team flight landed Tuesday night in Indiana. Despite getting treatment, he said he “woke up the next morning in a lot of pain.” He skipped a Wednesday morning shootaround, missed that night’s loss to the Pacers, and underwent X-rays which were negative.

“Nothing showed up so we are trying to figure out…that’s what caused us to come to the conclusion that’s it is just a jam or sprain. We are just trying to deal with that and figure out ways to heal it and get it better,” Smart said. “A sprain is what they are calling it. Still trying to figure out what happened. Not too sure.”

MassLive – Marcus Smart discusses mysterious toe injury, considered day-to-day for Boston Celtics

We’ve all been there before, right?  One minute you’re sitting at your desk and feel relatively fine, the next minute your neck is just killing you.  They’re called random injury ghosts and they enjoy messing with you.  I have no proof these ghosts exist but apparently they’ve worked their powers on Marcus Smart.  At some point on Tuesday, Smart’s toe hurt badly enough where A) he had to miss Wednesday’s game vs Indiana and B) couldn’t even sit on the bench with the team.

The latter piece to me was never a big deal, but to a lot of fans it is.  Or, it is depending on whom the injured player is.  The more important thing is that it doesn’t seem like this will be a long-term issue which is good.  Although last year he sprained his ankle early and it apparently limited his ability to drive to the basket, or do much of anything he wanted.  Let’s hope this toe injury isn’t a repeat of that.

 

On Page 2, James Young has no idea what the C’s coaches want from him

When Boston traveled to Indiana earlier this week, Young stayed back in New England, where he was assigned with rookie Jordan Mickey to the Maine Red Claws for two-a-day practices. Both players rejoined the Celtics in time for Thursday’s practice.

Despite spending time in the D-League so early in his second season, Young said he’s not discouraged.

“Not at all. It’s a process,” he said. “I’m the youngest guy on the team. I knew this was going to happen. So, just keep working.”

Asked what the coaches want to see from him, Young began his reply, “I have no clue,” before saying he will continue to do whatever they ask.

“We just have a lot of guys at my position,” he said. “So, like I said, I’m the youngest guy. My time is coming.”

MassLive – Boston Celtics notes: James Young needs to beat out veterans; Amir Johnson ’50-50′ for Washington Wizards game

This is simply amazing.  I find it extremely difficult to believe that this coaching staff (as well as Ainge himself) haven’t clearly communicated to James Young exactly what they want from him.  My guess is it’s something like this: ‘play defense and knock down shots.’  That’s the incredibly simplified version, but it’s still pretty clear.  Even if he’s confused, you don’t say that to the media.  Not because you’re try to be covert, but just because something in your mind should click and say ‘hmm maybe not the best comment.’  It’s sort of like you’re at a new job and you’re talking to a group of people from another department and you tell them ‘yeah you know I’m bored to death, I never have anything to do.’  Yes, he’s still young, but you can only use that excuse for so long.

And Finally… Avery Bradley loves to dunk, just never does

“I just don’t think he shows it as much as he should, especially with his athletic ability,” said Celtics guard Isaiah Thomas, who grew up with Bradley in Tacoma, Wash. “When he gets around that rim, he can do a lot of those types of things, and hopefully [the dunk against the Spurs] gives him some confidence to really do that all the time when he’s around the rim, because he can jump.”

The hope, Thomas said, is that a few more hard-charging and high-flying plays will make teams play back on Bradley when he is on the perimeter, and also lead to more free throw attempts when he attacks.

Last season, Bradley’s free throw rate was .099, meaning he shoots about one free throw for every 10 field goal attempts. The always-attacking Thomas, meanwhile, had a free throw rate of .481, nearly five times as high as Bradley’s.

“I just have to be aggressive and think to drive and dunk and make plays like that,” Bradley said, “because I am capable of doing it.”

Boston Globe – Make no mistake, dunks are part of Avery Bradley’s game

AB’s dunk on Sunday against the Spurs was pretty sweet, no doubt about it.  He doesn’t need to dunk 10 times per game, but he definitely needs to get to the free throw line more.  But, he’s said it himself several times that he’s been afraid of re-injuring himself.  Hopefully he’s able to get past that at some point, but a lot of times players never do.  He’s still young enough where he might, but so far (even early in this season) he hasn’t shown that he ever will.

The rest of the links:

Boston Herald – Celtics notebook: James Young’s development continues with Red Claws

CSNNE – Smart, Johnson uncertain for Celtics vs. Wizards Friday | Stevens: Crowder’s full-court basket ‘kind of ironic’ | Young not discouraged by trips to the D-League | Never too early to talk NBA MVP; Blakely’s Top 5 | Is Hunter set for a bigger role for the Celtics? | Tanguay: Time to put Thomas in the starting lineup

MassLive – Marcus Smart: ‘The world knows’ how poorly the Boston Celtics shot the basketball | Dallas Mavericks Twitter: Rajon Rondo ‘crappy’ throw-in in Boston Celtics trade last season

WEEI – 2016 CELTICS MOCK DRAFT PICK POWER RANKINGS V1.0 | MEET BEN SIMMONS, THE COLLEGE FRESHMAN WHO COULD END UP SAVING THE CELTICS

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  • Herman Bubbert

    Dunks bore me. Win games, and get back to me.

    • RedsLoveChild

      Last time anyone checked, “dramatic dunks” and “lackluster lay ups” were both worth the exact same 2 points on the scoreboard.

      Only difference….dunks waste much more energy for a guard to get up there, and certainly increase the odds of an injury {see Tony Allen}.

      • wil

        There is a difference when it’s AB. He has always struggle finishing below the rim when there are defenders. Easily gets blocked or doesnt make it. He doesnt have that IT or Rondo feel on finishing. He needs to go up strong and create some contact. Well its that or AB shooting long 2’s.

        • RedsLoveChild

          `Scuse me?
          The Celtics are paying $32M for a guy who struggles with lay-ups?

          You da man, Danny!!

          • wil

            dont worry, its not your money they are using to pay the guy

          • RedsLoveChild

            Actually, it`s the money they`re paying Ainge that bothers me.

            Bradley would be a real good player on an up-tempo team, that rebounds and runs at every opportunity.

          • wil

            oh yes, Celtics play the half court game. slowest pace ever.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Yeah, they rebound, run, and get out on the break with the best….that`s why the Celts score so many “easy” baskets per game.

          • wil

            Avery Bradley gonna be an all star then? Because we are already 5th in fast break points.

          • RedsLoveChild

            If all their rebounding and running is leading to so many easy fast break baskets…..why would Boston have one of the very worst team FG% in the NBA?

          • wil

            are you serious? do you know anything about basketball? Do you even watch the celtics play at all?

            They are averaging 17 fast break points per game which is already 5th in the NBA. What did you expect? Celtics to average 100 points a game through fastbreak?

            Do some math. I cant believe i even have to explain this to you. Even if you shoot 70% on fast breaks, its still just a small part of the teams total field goals. Thats not just for the Celtics but for the entire NBA.

            You just get back to hating on Ainge. Apparently you dont know shit about basketball.

          • RedsLoveChild

            I don`t know what you`re watching, but apparently it`s the GS Warriors in green uniforms.

            I`m seeing a young team, with a young coach, that plays hard, hustles, and gets a strong defensive effort from their starting guards. They can beat teams that sleep on them. Those are the positives.

            The negatives are very little overall roster talent, no effective bigs, poor play in the paint, lousy rebounders, unimpressive outside shooting…..and certainly not much in the way of easy baskets!

          • wil

            lol what the hell are you even talking about?

            Youre straying far away from fast break points. What you were emphasizing was Avery could be a “real good player” if our team is good at fast break points. And guess what? WE ARE.

            I dont even know why you would say that about AB. AB is decent with fastbreaks. He is fast but aside from that, he doesnt have the footwork or craftiness.

            And that knowledge of yours aint really impressive. Even non celtics fans knows that about the team.

            My point is youre wrong about fastbreaks gonna make AB a “real good player”. And youre also wrong about fastbreaks are enough to make our field goal percentage decent. We score 103.6 ppg. Only 17 of those are fastbreak (which again i repeat is already 5th in the league). So yeah, my point is you are dead wrong.

          • RedsLoveChild

            To anyone with eyes…Bradley {in addition to his defense} is a quick, fast, athletic guard who can effectively catch and shoot. He`s about to turn 25. At 6`2″, he`s certainly not in the NBA due to his imposing size.
            He “checks every box” of the type of guy who would flourish on a good team, that rebounds well, looks to fast break, run, beat the opponent down court for easy hoops, and plays a wide open, free flowing style.

            Yet, you believe otherwise, probably because the analytics invented by some stat nerd are not convincing enough. Try using the “eye test”. I`m guessing you`ve been following the NBA since way back in 2009.

            Fast break points {like assists} are subjective. It`s not like a home run in baseball, where everyone sees the ball clear the wall, and accepts it as a home run. These are interpretive stats. The official scorer is charged with making the final call, but it`s still subjective in nature.

            You`ve stated that fast break points comprise just a “small” number of a team`s total FG`s. If the Celts are averaging 17+ fast break points, that equates to about 8-9 FG`s. They score 35-37 FG`s in total. Is 25% really that “small” a percentage to you???

            For clarity, I should`ve {but failed to} clearly defined at the very outset how I view a good fast breaking, up-tempo team. For me, it`s a team that rebounds well, throws quick outlet passes, excels in transition, looks to beat the opponent down court for easy baskets.

            The Celts lack guys who rebound well, so they don`t meet my definition of a fast breaking team. They are forced to create opportunities by being scrappy and trying to create “chaos” with their young legs. There is a difference.

          • wil

            Lol this has nothing to do with analytics. How many shots do you think Celtics take a game? And yes, because 8-9 fgs is small part of the overall field goals attempts.Thats only 10% of our total attempts. Yes i think 8-9 field goals from fast break will change little in your field goal percentage if you miss another 60 shots.

            How many guards do you think in the NBA are fast and athletic? Thats not a special trait in the NBA. There’s alot of things about AB that doesnt make him the best at fastbreaks. He has poor dribbling ability. What move do you often see any one use in the fast break? Its the euro step or 1-2 step or whatever they call it. AB doesnt have enough footwork for that. AB is a terrible passer and he doesnt always make good decisions. But oh hey youre right AB is fast and athletic. Which is also the most common trait among NBA guards.

            In the end, fastbreak points are supplementary. No matter how good you are with it, you’ll need alot more points from the half court setting. And its easy to adjust to a team that runs fastbreaks often.

            Facts: Alot of NBA guards are athletic. Another fact: 8-9fgs is just a small part of 89 field goal attempts.

          • RedsLoveChild

            I`m sorry….did I say AB was “the best” at fastbreaks? I do recall saying he`d be a “real good player” on a rebound + run team, but nothing about the “best”.

            According to you, AB must really suck! He`s a poor dribbler/ball handler, terrible passer, lousy footwork, not so good with decisions. You must be pissed DA signed him for $32M? Not at all, you back DA religiously!

            You do realize that fast break points culminate with very high percentage shots in the paint {lay ups, dunks, alley-oops}, as opposed to pull up 3 pointers?

          • wil

            lol ive been mad about ABs contract since i first heard about it and ive repeated that on this site multiple times. Fastbreaks still wont make him a “real good player”. So nope, i dont think fastbreak can make a player “real good”. You know what can make AB a real good player? Its if he can improve his dribbles and actually use his speed to drive into the lane and not just on fastbreaks. Maybe we just have very different opinion on what “real good” means

            lol thank you for doing the numbers. You said “If all their rebounding and running is leading to so many easy fast break baskets…..why would Boston have one of the very worst team FG% in the NBA??”

            You already did the math to answer that question. The answer to that question is its because Celtics are shooting very poorly overall. Do you see my point? Despite being one of the top teams in the NBA who capitalizes on fastbreak points, we still have a terrible shooting percentage.

            Im not arguing about how important fastbreaks are because obviously it is. Im arguing that fastbreaks arent good enough to boost your fg% if your shooting that poorly from the halfcourt setting.

            I dont even know why you are arguing this. You did the math your self. Maybe if we were scoring 30ppg on fastbreaks id say youre right and it is enough to give us a decent fg%. But we both know that isnt gonna happen.

          • RedsLoveChild

            lol {which you seem to feel is required to bolster your point}

            We agree, they can`t shoot to save their lives. No argument there.
            What I don`t understand is how you can say, “yes, I think 8-9 FG`s from fast breaks will CHANGE LITTLE in FG% if you miss another 60 shots.”
            You serious? Their fast break points are altering their FG% from .351% to .413%! That`s 62 basis points. Their FG% would be 15% worse without those fast break hoops.

            Ok, you don`t like Bradley or his contract. Although I do believe he`d prosper if he were on a different team, I can accept your criticism of AB.

            What amazes me is why you {and others on this blog} will never ever ever point a critical figure at the man who drafted AB and rewarded him with $32M.
            Granted, it`s off the original topic….but, where exactly does this “zombie/cult” like loyalty to Ainge stem from?

          • wil

            You still dont get it? You insist on saying that if we were a good fast break team we would have a decent fg% which is false.

            Look, im not saying fastbreaks arent important or insignificant. I am just saying that you are wrong on pointing out that we shouldnt be the worst fg% team if we were good at fast breaks. Can you focus on that statement which is the stem of this argument.

            I am not an idiot. lol fastbreak shots are the easiest shots you can get in the game. Ofcourse it will boost your overall %. But would it be enough to counteract very poor shooting percentages? Nope. Let me simply it for you even more.

            90% fga = halfcourt setting
            10% fga = fastbreak points. (17 ppg, 5th in the league, which i keep on repeating, why? because it just means we have little to improve in that area)

            Celtics being worst at fg% has more to do with the 90% than the 10%. 90% of attempts > 10% of the attempts. So again, im not saying FB points are insignificant. Im just saying that it has very little to do with our poor percentage.

            Its not blind faith in Danny. I can think for myself and weigh his decisions. Sure he has made decisions that made me mad. But his pros out weigh the cons. He is a good deal maker. Him and his team are the best at rearranging contracts on trades so it benefits us more with trade exceptions. Which leads to players with potential plus draft picks. And dont tell me youre not happy with having an unprotected pick from the 0-7 nets.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Here is my credo on all of the above :

            1} A “legitimate, indisputable, honest-to-goodness” fast break team will always rank high in FG%. They are simply going to get too many high % shots not to.

            2} To be such a fast break team, they must rebound very well, in order to launch the break. Without rebounds, the opportunities to run the break are far too limited.

            3} Since the Celts haven`t been a good rebounding team since KG got old and Perk was traded, they can`t even be in the discussion of being a good fast breaking team, regardless of what some stat geek says.

            4} I go by the eyeball test, I go by what my eyes tell me. I don`t see Boston getting 9 easy baskets per game! Not at all.

            5} The recent analytic trend to overly dissect the game with subjective and ambiguously defined stats means nothing to me.

            6} The recently invented Fast break points stats is as stupid as the pace stat, or how fast a team plays. That one is based on possessions per game, as if that means anything. Team A turns the ball over, Team B scores, Team A inbounds…guess what, Team A now has twice as many possessions, so they are playing “faster”!

          • wil

            Let me ask you this, how many points do you think a team “legitimate, indisputable, honest-to-goodness” fastbreak team should get off fast break points?

            Asking you this because you keep writing off simple mathematics as analytics.

          • RedsLoveChild

            I was hoping you wouldn`t ask that. The stat guys say GS at about 25.
            From what it appears, they define a fast break basket to be one scored within 8 seconds of gaining possession. So, if Marcus Smart grabs a rebound under his basket as time is about to expire at the end of a quarter, and heaves it 90 feet and it goes in, Boston gets 3 fast break points. If AB hits a 3-pointer from 25 feet away within 8 seconds of Boston gaining possession, it`s 3 FB points.

            GS does score many FB points on 3`s by Curry, Klay, etc. To me, these are less the result of fast breaks, and much more to do with great outside shooters.

            Another problem is I`m caught between eras. I remember the greatest fast breaking team ever….the Heinsohn coached Celts of the mid-`70`s. They define my perception of FB basketball. They were small, but rebounded and ran like crazy for 48 minutes. They dominated the NBA, would`ve won 3 titles in 4 years except for a Havlicek injury. They did not have great outside shooters.
            However, they would generally pull down 55-56 RPG, with a FG% of about 46%….because they were beating the defense down the floor all night, their typical jump shot was shorter than a FT!
            They scored 105 PPG, and probably scored 1/2 of them within 15 feet of the basket.

            Today? Hard to say how many, especially since the current stat has a definition that allows for 3-pointers to count as FB hoops, which are not high % shots at all…while the whole point of fast breaking is to score easy baskets and getting high % shots. My gut tells me that 25 FB points is actually low {not high} for a truly good fast breaking team.

          • wil

            So by your definition of a good fastbreaking team, none of the teams today are good fastbreak teams? Not only that, we would need to travel 45 years back for Avery to be a “real good player”? And to sum it up, Avery will never be ” real good player” through fb because not even the top team in fb points today points is good enough for your standards.

            25 is still just 13fga compared to a total of 89 fga celtics have. Its still small percentage. So nope, simple mathematics would tell you that if Cs shot poorly enough from halfcourt, they still wouldnt rank high on FG%. Its just really simple math.

            Times change. If it was so easy to score 50 points through fast break points dont you think teams will do it? Stopping fastbreaks from rebounds is easy. Whenever some one shoots, send 2 guys back to defend. Thats why after an offensive rebound you see players sprinting back from the other side of the court. Defense makes it a priority nowadays. Thats why fastbreak points from turnovers is often what you see and are also harder to defend.

            This is the truth. Im not babbling my opinion. These are just simple facts of the game now.

            I am also not gonna ask Celtics to fire Danny for something i dont like. First, because they are pretty good at structuring deals. Second, he hired Brad Stevens(a move that is now being followed by the rest of the nba). Third, we are far ahead in the rebuild. Clear capspace, multiple picks, unprotected picks from nets, assets from absolutely no where(use of tpe). Fourth, they are creating a team with the right mindset and winning mentality. Fifth, they all did with no tanking, except for that one year that we had no choice. Sixth, how hard do you think is it to find a good GM? One wrong hire could set us back 2-3 years.

            Its not blind faith. I’m making a logical decision. And about fastbreaks, youve said alot of right things (though most of em are irrelevant) but it is a simple fact (already proven by math that we both did) that FB points is not enough to over turn Celtics poor shooting percentages.

            So thats it, im out. I’m tired of trying to convince you that 80 is a bigger number than 9.

          • RedsLoveChild

            You do realize that the best known and trusted basketball statistical site {basketball-reference.com} does NOT recognize this newly created {and badly flawed} stat known as Fast Break points, don`t you?

            That should tell you something. They recognize that not every occurrence in the sport can be turned into a meaningful stat. The guys at Team Rankings {I think that`s their name} does not even try to factor in how many players from each team are in the attacking half of the court when the hoop is scored. They merely pulled the arbitrary 8 second criteria out of their ass.

            Fine, you`re free to run with it. Next time you see Sully hit a trey from 25 feet with 16 left on the shot clock {rather than 17}, you can marvel at the FB points.

            As for me, next time I see Sully grab a board, fire a quick outlet strike to Smart near mid court, advance it with 2-3 dribbles, hit a streaking AB on the right wing ahead of the pack….I`ll marvel at that FB!

            We might be looking at a “generational divide”.

            Enjoy your evening.

    • Curt Hays

      You must be a San Antonio fan…at least appreciative of them. I hate to admit it because I love KG, but Tim Duncan continues to prove that he is the best PF of all time.

      • RedsLoveChild

        Duncan is almost to good to be true.

        How many guys with his stature would be playing for $5M, so his team can sign players that will help them win? Not to mention the work his charitable foundation does.