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Your Morning Dump… Where there’s not a lot of love for Brandon Bass

Chuck - Red's Army January 13, 2015 Brandon Bass, Kevin Garnett, The Morning Dump 20 Comments

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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big story line. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

“I knew that where we are now was a possibility when we came into this year,” Ainge said. “But I was hopeful last summer that we could acquire some more guys and build a more veteran-like team that was more ready to win sooner. But we weren’t able to do it.”

Then, according to league sources, the Celts found a limited market for both Rondo and Green, and Brandon Bass, despite some interest from other clubs and the fact he has become a very solid performer, has yet to attract any serious offers.

“I just felt like it was sort of a timeline thing with the players that we had, the uncertainty of the future and free agency,” Ainge told the assembled pens, microphones and cameras before the Celtics met New Orleans last night. “And I felt like we were getting good value in return based on these contract situations.”

Boston Herald

Prior to last night’s win over New Orleans, Danny Ainge shed some light on the reasoning behind his recent flurry of deals. The logic is pretty simple: the Celtics want something in return for guys who aren’t going to be around next season and beyond. Like it or not, conditional picks in the late 1st round are the best we’re going to get for these guys.

I still think Danny Ainge will find a taker for Bass. While he can’t shoot the three or protect the rim, Brandon does a lot of things well. His solid mid-range game helps space the floor and the guy can (sometimes) defend 3 positions. And one of Bass’ best attributes is his consistency. By the trade deadline, Bass will be moved for 2nd round picks.

Speaking of picks, Ainge has a message for anyone not enamored with the Celtics cache of draft picks:

Ainge argued that one cannot have too many picks.

“No, because draft picks are always tradable; players are not (always tradable). Draft picks are always assets,” he said, before adding with a grin, “Until sometimes they’re drafted. Until they become players. Or until they become paid.”

As for the newly acquired Tayshaun Prince and Austin Rivers, there’s not much new to report. Ainge will talk with Prince about a buyout of his $7 million salary. For all the chatter about wanting to play for a contender, players rarely give back much in buyout situations. Maybe the Celtics can find some common ground with Prince. As for Rivers, everyone expects him to move back in with Dad in LA. I believe the hang-up is finding a 3rd team to throw in a player with an expiring contract.

Related links: CSNNE – Uncertainty of future a factor in Green trade | No buyout decision until Prince, Ainge meet | Williams emotional over departure of Rivers | ESPN Boston – Too many picks? Ainge says no such thing

On Page 2, KG wanted to f-up Dwight Howard last night.

The back-and-forth escalated when Garnett threw the ball at Howard, and then charged with head-butting intentions. After the two were separated, Garnett walked demonstrably around the court while holding his head, as if talking himself into avoiding further action. He made another turn towards Howard after the situation cooled, failing to get close to his opponent.

“I’m going to —- this —– up,” Garnett shouted.

Garnett was clearly the aggressor, but the Nets — specifically Joe Johnson — expressed surprise that Howard wasn’t also ejected.

NY Daily News

Everything after the headbutt was a Golden Globe worthy performance.

The rest of the links:

CSNNE – Crowder, Sullinger lead C’s past Pelicans | Herald – Crowder blossoms with Garden roots | Celtics get offensive | Globe – Ainge intent on finding leadership | ESPN Boston – Stevens bad memory of Prince | WEEI – 6 things we learned in Celtics victory

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  • Paul

    At some point there needs to be discussion of who among these young players are we considering part of the future? Smart and Young are obvious but as you go down the roster it’s not so obvious.

    • bill_nair

      I wouldnt be so sure Smart and Young are “obvious”.

      • Dirk Diggler

        Why? Not trying to be a Richard Cranium btw, Im just curious to hear your reasoning. I like both players an awful lot.

        • bill_nair

          Well for one, Danny would trade his mother if it resulted in a solid package. So I wouldn’t be so sure our best assets that actually play are part of the future. Either Smart or Young would need to be included in a package for a better player. Not saying its the right move but its the reality of the situation.

          I’ve been less than impressed with Smart. Over 60% of his shots are three pointers. I’m not going to question Brads school of shooting cause it worked with Sully, but his bread and butter has been getting in the paint and getting to the line. Hes taken 45 2pt shots this year (compared to 85 threes). Just a bit discouraging.

          Young needs to do more than hit the 3 before I retire his jersey like it seems most of the fan base wants to do already. I think he’s going to be in the league for awhile because he definitely can shoot the ball. But outside of that hes almost useless. And what i’ve heard about him regarding his defense has been less than encouraging.

          There both young so i’m not judging them as final products. But nothing i’ve seen gives me encouragement that they’re the franchise players we need. And as of now, i’m not interested in any players but the one who can put this franchise on its back.

          Not trying to sound like the bitter old man. I like the young guys. I’ll be in the Garden Friday and I cant wait to watch them in person. But until they prove they can carry this team I cant find myself investing much interest in them.

          • Dirk Diggler

            I’ve been fairly impressed with Marcus Smart’s development. I agree that I’d like to see him post up or take smaller guards off the dribble and to the hole more often…but to his credit he’s shooting a respectable 35% from long distance this season. For a rookie who isn’t necessarily known for his shooting ability, it’s impressive. He’ll only get better. And his defense is already at a very high level.

            From what I’ve seen of Young, he has a transcendent ability to score the basketball. In addition to how quickly Young’s release is, he releases the ball high with great loft and touch. He has size and speed and scouts say he has the tools to turn himself into a solid defensive player. No, he’s not in the HOF yet, and neither is Smart. And of course I agree that neither guy is a “franchise player” because there’s only about 12-15 of those guys in the league and many of them are on the same teams.

            With that being said, can they be starters on good teams if the Celtics can get “THAT GUY” to lead the C’s to banner 18? I think so, and I think Danny thinks so. We’ll see what the future beholds. The fun is just beginning.

          • bill_nair

            Very happy to see Smart shooting 35% from deep. If Brad could turn Sully into a respectable 3pt shooter I won’t complain about Marcus bombing away. Just hope he doesn’t build any bad habits.

  • Jester00

    Jeff Green is gone and the Buckeyes win!!!!!!!!!! Life is great

  • CFH

    I forgot for a minute yesterday that Bass hasn’t already been traded. In my defense, it’s an easy mistake.

  • bill_nair

    Seen someone say Bass needs to be traded because he plays “hero ball”…….. Hopefully Bass can find his way on another team. I’d hate to finish this season out in Boston. Doubt Thornton leaves though.

    • Dirk Diggler

      No pass Bass stops the rock from moving and it undermines what Stevens wants this team to do. I’ve seen it first hand at the Garden. When the Celts are on a run, you can always count on Bass to miss a contested shot from the post with 20 seconds left on the shot clock and to deflate the Garden crowd (which has been surprisingly good all season IMO). He needs to go and stop taking the younger (and better) players’ minutes.

      • bill_nair

        Bass has always been solely a mid range jumpshooter. When Doc was here Bass caught the ball and shoots. Same with Brad. There’s been hundreds of possessions this year with shots being taken with 20 seconds left. That’s on Brad, not the players. AB takes 10 of these shots a game.

        I agree he needs to go, but to my original point, he doesn’t play hero ball. Not in the least bit.

  • Gregg Futch

    I wonder sometimes whether Danny’s trying to recreate a college team for his college coach. Maybe Stevens’ style is most effective with younger players.

    • bill_nair

      He’s accumulating all these 2nd’s to put together a traveling band. Instead of euro stashes, he’ll draft players and cut them after training camp. Then they will go on to do shows across the country for the remainder of the NBA season.

  • Sean McLaughlin

    Teams are unloading their CONDITIONAL first rounders on us and making out like fat rats. They’re getting quality role players (and one star) ridiculously cheap with these unconfirmed picks, most of which that will end up falling to the second round or won’t bear fruit till ’17-’19. Danny’s just looking too desperate to trade and they’re taking advantage, as well they should. While Stevens’ system does work better with young studs, a team of nothing but youth will never (Never say never? Well, ok, 9.5 times out of 10) win a championship in today’s NBA. There’s too much technique involved in the game now for speed and endurance to win over experience and true grit in the long term. Hence why the playoffs exist: To weed out the flash in the pan teams from the ones that have true consistency. If he does package these picks into a quality star or two, I guess I’ll have to eat my words, but for the time being I really don’t see that happening. 29 teams in the NBA know where to get rock bottom prices for players guaranteed to produce for them this year. The Boston Dollar General. When you take an “everything must go” stance, the smart ones take notice and capitalize.

    On a positive side note: Love KG, as always! lol The best part is when they’re broken up and KG tries to sneak around the sea of players and officials to get after Howard! Had me laughing and re-watching it over and over! Miss ya, Big Ticket!

    • bill_nair

      Not sure Stevens even has a system at this point. More like take the first open shot and pass it if your not open. This team seriously misses Ron Adams too.

      • Sean McLaughlin

        I know where you’re coming from (especially on the Adams comment), but when coaches like Pop laud Stevens for his playbook proficiency there may just be something there. He’s got a lot to deal with given that he has two or three fresh faces on the roster every two weeks or so, and quite frankly, no solid play maker (an undersized Pressey being the best one) on the team. so I don’t really like to put the blame on him. A coach needs time to work his players into a system. Record notwithstanding, look at our progress before the Rondo trade. Everything was gelling, consistency from most players was on the rise and we were in playoff contention (which most tank advocates hated, I know). I’m not blaming our woes totally on the Rondo trade, don’t get me wrong, just saying at that point in the year we had a semi consistent roster where most everyone knew, or was quickly learning their roles.

        • bill_nair

          I just haven’t seen much from him yet to give me confidence in his X’s and O’s. From what i’ve seen, its run around like chickens with ya head off, make passes and shoot when open. The defense falling off a cliff has alot to do with either Humph or Adams. I’m going to assume Adams.

          Stevens needs to implement more than a run and gun offense and prove he can coach a capable defensive team without a defense savant on the bench. Hopefully things fix themselves the last few months.

        • zapatatio

          Yup, ainge is clueless!

      • KGino

        Lol Sean when KG tried to sneak back around I lost it… I was like WHAT IS HE DOING! HAHAHAHAH. Not sure if Chuck here was talking about KG giving a Golden Globe performance, but that was not KG acting. That was KG genuinely ready to murder Dwight!! The sneaking back around to try an get him again proves it.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          LOL. No doubt! He was all hunched over, tip toeing, looking like Spy vs Spy! You notice, all Howard did the whole time was back up… Fake tough guy…