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Rumor: Celtics could help Cavs get better… again.

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) December 24, 2014 Brandan Wright, Celtics News, Rumors 31 Comments

VAREJAO CELTICS

Cleveland Cavaliers center Anderson Varejao will undergo an MRI on his left foot Wednesday that could reveal a potential long-term injury.

[…] If Varejao is out for a significant period, it’s believed the Cavs will intensify their months long efforts to trade for a big man. The team has been seeking additional help for its front line going back to the summer, having specifically  Mozgov of the Denver Nuggets and Kosta Koufos of the Memphis Grizzlies.

Sources say the Cavs, in recent days, have been in contact with the Boston Celtics about working as a facilitator in three-team trade scenarios. The Celtics, blessed with frontcourt depth in the wake of their recent acquisition of Brandan Wright in the Rajon Rondo deal, have been aggressive recently in their attempts to acquire future draft picks.

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You’ll recall, the Celtics, along with Brooklyn, helped the Cavs clear cap space so they could secure LeBron James’ services this summer. The move got the Celtics Tyler Zeller, who is playing very well and has been able to cope quite nicely without Rajon Rondo feeding him constantly.

So the Celtics got something out of that, even though fans have that distaste in their mouths about helping Cleveland.  Now the Celtics could be at it again, with a glut of bigs to offer… or as a team that can help move some pieces around in a multi-team deal.

The key for Boston, obviously, is to receive assets in return.  The Celtics already own the Cavs 2016 pick (top 10 protected), so because teams can’t trade consecutive 1st round picks,  future picks from the Cavs don’t seem very likely.  They have Memphis’ 1st rounder this year to play with, but that’s top-5 and 15-30 protected this season.  That’s basically the same protection on the Dallas 1st round pick, so it’s possible Ainge would take that.  I’m going to assume we’d probably be looking at a third team’s picks if Ainge is going to get what he wants, which brings us to…

A 3-way deal that sends Jeff Green to Memphis?  As for players who might come out of Cleveland…

Sources say that the Cavs are well aware landing a quality big man likely depends on selling on potential trade partners to take back polarizing shooting guard Dion Waiters. Cleveland rates Waiters’ talent highly, but sources maintain that the Cavs have let a number of teams know they are prepared to surrender him if they can acquire a difference-making center in return.

Do the Celtics have a “difference-making center?” I don’t think so, but “difference-making” takes on a different meaning now that Varejao could be gone for the season. Is Brandan Wright difference-making enough? Is he even really a center? Wright for Waiters works straight up, but I don’t think that’s the route these teams will go.  Waiters is only 23, he’s got talent, and he’s under contract next year for only about $4 million, so it could be worth the look.  Maybe under the right guidance, he can fix some of the things that have plagued him so far in his young career.

So with all this in mind, I did the one thing I hate… I went to the trade machine.

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The Wright deal would be done separately with a trade exception to make it work since he can’t be traded with another player for 2 months.  The Celtics would also get that Memphis 1st rounder.  Or you could put Brandon Bass in there instead of Wright.

I’m not sure if that makes sense or not, but that’s the kind of trade we’re looking at if something goes down. Cleveland gets the frontcourt depth it needs, Memphis gets Green, the Celtics get a young asset.. err.. scorer.. and another pick.  That would give them their own pick this year, along with the Clippers, Mavericks, and Grizzlies picks (depending on how the protections work out).

No matter how this shakes out, someone is going somewhere. Trader Danny is not done making moves.

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  • Curt Hays

    Grizzlies will probably sign get Jeff Green and Courtney Lee, and then sign Jermaine O’Neal. All three players have a career year and win a title. That’s what I now expect. C’mon, basketball gods…prove me wrong.

    • swissflix

      All trades that make this season’s Celtics team less competitive make sense. Sad but true. We don’t even have to get anything particular in return-high draft picks for example- developing our young players and not winning many games should at least be Danny’s goal.

      • Curt Hays

        I agree with you. I was just pointing out that they were all Celtics recently. Also, Jerryd Bayless is shooting 98% from the free throw line this year.

      • Gregg Futch

        Getting Dion Waiters would make us less competitive for years.

    • RedwasKing

      Haha that’s funny. If Jermaine O’Neal had a career year he would be MVP. But is see what you mean

      • Curt Hays

        Okay, valid point. He was pretty legit back when he was a pup. Remember, he went through Phoenix. He might be 20 years old again for all we know.

        • Dave

          Just sucks that JO didn’t get healthy till after we waived him. Apparently Kobe called him back in 2011 telling him about that knee procedure in Germany and he didn’t take up on it till after we waived him. Of course Phoenix would have helped him ease in to their team as well and he had a solid year in GS last year too.

          I heard he wants to retire in Dallas though so you might be able to see him haha.

          • Curt Hays

            I don’t want to see him. I’d be afraid I might get mad and hit him with a beer bottle.

          • Dave

            Like this?

          • Curt Hays

            I totally forgot about that. If it had been me, I’d have HIT the target (Ron Artest) instead of missing and hitting Lamar.

            We Texans are better at throwing than them there Bostonians!

          • Dave

            Even if you’re drunk? Haha. It still hit a Laker so the mission was still a success.

          • Curt Hays

            I hadn’t considered it if I was drunk. I guess I don’t consider what would happen in various situations if I was drunk. Maybe I should factor that into the equation just in case. Either way, it was a roundabout way to pick on Red Sox fans for taking my favorite two Texas Rangers (Napoli and Uehara).

          • dontevertreadonme

            your not even from new england? that explains everything

          • Curt Hays

            I have just as much access to the Celtics players and information about them as you do.

          • Curt Hays

            Larry Bird isn’t from New England either. Neither is Paul Pierce or Kevin Garnett.

          • dontevertreadonme

            umm ok? those were players not bandwagon fans

          • Curt Hays

            Really? You realize that you just called me a bandwagon fan of a team that can’t even make the playoffs?

          • Sean McLaughlin

            Ignore him, dude. I haven’t seen one positive post outta that guy.

          • Curt Hays

            Thanks, Sean. I can honestly say that he doesn’t actually bother me. I wouldn’t have responded if one guy hadn’t upvoted such a stupid thing to say.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            Someone that doesn’t understand that the Celtics have the largest non home fan base of any team of any American sport obviously doesn’t pay attention. “Some people just wanna watch the forum burn” is the quote, right?

          • Curt Hays

            There was a group of guys at a bar here the other day that invited into a discussion they were having in regards to whether you’d want Steve Nash or Jason Kidd as your PG (in his prime). One guy was disagreeing with everyone, and they were ragging on him pretty hard.

            They asked me what I thought of his opinion, and I said, “Of course he’d say something that stupid. He’s a Lakers fan.” They all started laughing and then he asks me how I know he’s a Lakers fan since he wasn’t wearing anything to indicate him as such nor did he say anything about them.

            As I left a tip and was walking away from the bar I said, “Because you don’t seem to know anything about basketball, and you’re wearing a Yankees hat.” I felt like a jerk for a second, then his buddies started laughing so hard at him that I just had to walk away. :)

          • Sean McLaughlin

            Lol. Prime example.

          • swissflix

            Go Celts! Switzerland says hello!

          • GreenBirdCro

            Go Celts!
            Croatia says hi! Lolz

          • eddysamson

            It actually boggles my mind someone reading this blog, a Celtics blog, could upvote that guy.

  • Brian Pahlm

    Goodman’s mock draft has us taking Poeltl whose game is close to ASIK with the 22nd pick. At the 10th pick he has us taking Mario Hezonja. I hope we can drop drop a few slots and take Stanley Johnson. With the trade exception/draftpicks and huge increase in the salary cap, with only 35milplus committed to next year, It won’t take much to turn this team around. The East is so weak now. The C’s will build their team from 12-3 threw the draft and then get their number 1/2 guys in free agency. A deep cheap bench will allow this team to be good for awhile not great for a year and back into the lottery.

  • wil

    If we are going to get Dion Waiters for Green and Wright? Yes please. If theres any coach that can tame Dion Waiters that would be Stevens.

    The rest of the season would officially be awful to watch but still.

    • Rick Rice

      Already awful to watch… team looks demoralized and why not!! All need to be watching their backs for the backstabbing Danny Ainge!

  • Rick Rice

    Another Guard? Really? How about another center, a REAL Center so with Zeller the Celts have at least 2!!

  • Mai Gaiaesque

    Griz gets Green
    Cav gets Koufos & Griz’s pick (?)
    C’s gets T.Prince & Waiter & Griz’s 1st round pick….http://i.imgur.com/zYOfI4Q.png

  • Sean

    Another mid round pick. Greeeat. Not a bad trade if we could avoid Waiters.