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Your Morning Dump… Where the Celtics aren’t tough

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) December 3, 2014 Brad Stevens, Evan Turner, Rajon Rondo, The Morning Dump 17 Comments

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“When it comes easy, we’ve been good,” Stevens told reporters in Atlanta. “When it gets tough, we haven’t. … Simple formula.”

After watching the host Hawks rally from a 23-point deficit for a 109-105 triumph on Tuesday evening, Stevens decried his team’s lack of physicality and grit. He suggested that Atlanta simply wanted it more than Boston, and there may be no more damning incrimination for a Stevens-coached team than the suggestion of subpar effort. Heck, that should have been an impossibility on Tuesday considering the Celtics haven’t posted a victory against anyone except the winless Sixers since Nov. 8.

[…] “I’ve said this before and I believe it to be true: The game honors the more physical team,” Stevens said. “It does night in and night out. We’ve just got to improve in that area. … It is what it is. I’m not crazy enough to think that if it doesn’t change, we’ll be sitting up here a lot like this.”

ESPN Boston: Stevens: “When it gets tough, we haven’t”

I tweeted last night that this team appears to have a glitch that sets everyone’s awareness to zero in the second half or the 4th quarter of games.  To top it off, guys get lost and, in turn, get deflated.  Their second half yips seem to have claimed squatters rights to their skulls, leaving their brains and basketball IQ in the locker room at halftime.

What Stevens is doing here is trying to challenge his guys to fight, because once something like this is in your head, your willingness to fight is the first thing to go.  It happens to all of us from time to time.  It happens to you at your job, when no matter what you do, you know something is going wrong and you’re going to have to stay late.

What do you do in that situation?  Buckle down and get your work done early?  Or do you say “F this” and check out the latest stupid debate spamming your Facebook wall?

Human nature is a powerful adversary in times like this. It’s difficult to fight the instinct to accept fate and march forward against what seems to be not only an opponent, but some invisible force that’s stacking the odds against you. But that’s what people have to do every day in situations serious to simple.

We all have different thresholds of what we’re willing to accept. We all have different levels of fight in us. This is the challenge that Brad Stevens really faces… figuring out those levels, and figuring out who stays or goes in the long run.

I get that it’s frustrating for people watch Brad Stevens stick with certain guys or seemingly not make adjustments, but he’s got a bigger picture in mind than just winning a game in Atlanta.  He’s got to figure out the level of fight in his guys. He’s got to give guys the weeks, or even months, they need to reveal their true selves on the court so when the trade deadline or the offseason comes, he’s got enough information to determine certain things about certain players… and that applies from Rajon Rondo down to Dwight Powell.

Stevens calling out his team’s toughness is a button he’s pushing to see who responds tonight.  He’s looking to see who says “F you, coach, I’ll show you who’s tough” and responds to the challenge… and who says “F this” and doesn’t.

Effort is on the players.  The desire to fight for wins is on the guys in the locker room.  Rondo said “it starts with me” after last night’s game.  He’s said that beforemore than once.  If he’s going to say it and invite that, then now’s the time for it to start.

The effort is a team-wide problem. Every individual has to have that “thing” in him to get out there and dive and claw and lay Schroeder on his ass to earn those points if he’s really going to be the one to kill the C’s.  But if Rondo wants it to start with him, then it’s going to have to start with him.

If the coach is calling out his guys, then it’s time for Rondo to rally his guys and lead the charge. It’s time to get those guys to snap out of their haze and fight.

To quote Rage Against The Machine from their epic THIS MAKES ME WANT TO FIGHT SOMEONE RIGHT NOW song Guerilla Radio (nsfw lyrics)…

It has to start somewhere It has to start sometime. What better place than here, what better time than now?

Related links:  Globe:  Hawks rally to beat Celtics  |  Stevens rips Celtics’ toughness after loss

Page 2: STFU Evan Turner

Korver burned the Celtics again, scoring 24 points on 6-for-7 shooting from long distance and added 6 rebounds and 4 assists. Korver committed no fouls in 37:29, something not lost on Turner following the 109-105 loss.

“They started pressuring and it’s tough to score when you have two hands inside your jersey as well,” he said. “At the same time, I got a foul call on Korver and they said I pushed him and tripped him and he just fell. He can’t guard to save his life and he’s grabbing Marcus Thornton and he’s grabbing me and he has no business being in the game on the defensive end but what can you possibly do if they’re allowed to have their hands on you?”

Globe: Evan Turner annoyed by officiating in loss to Hawks

This is a guy venting some frustrations after another frustrating loss.  But it’s really hard to look at that quote and not thing “Shut the fuck up, Evan.”

Need I remind you that it was your horrible defense in stretches against Korver that allowed him to hit 6 of 7 from 3?

We get that you’re frustrated, but a little self-awareness goes a long way.

Related links:  Mass Live:  Turner: Korver can’t guard to save his life

The rest of the links:

Herald:  Schroeder takes lesson from Rondo  |  Celtics burn in Atlanta  |  ESPN Boston:  Another second half collapse  |  CSNNE:  Celtics a “24 minute” team in loss  |  Green leads C’s in 2nd half  |  Celtics blow 23 point lead in loss  |  Boston.com: The only thing you need to know about the loss to Atlanta  |  WEEI:  Celtics fold in 2nd half  | Magic 9 ball: Rondo trade barometer 3.0

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  • BillRussell

    oh course i would love for us to be winning the majority of these games. But i do have faith in our new coach, i like our personnel (especially with what was available to us) and i feel with all the good things we are going in games, the coach will be able to fine tune it, curve some of the bad habits and we’ll start winning some games.

  • zippittyay

    They need Kevin Garnett to punch them real hard right in the chest! Get passionate, DAMMIT!

  • Sean McLaughlin

    I like our personnel for the most part (apart from KO, of whom I’m not a big fan), but this is really looking like psychological defeat. They have to get it in their heads that they are the same individuals no matter what quarter it is. Zippittyay is right, though, we need that passionate player like KG to come in and punk a few guys, make ‘em cry like Big Baby, whatever! Coddling them isn’t going to instill the necessary attitude. Looks like Stevens is understanding that now. Kevin O’Conner suggested Rondo go to a shooting psychologist for his free throws… Do they have anything like that for this issue? Just saying, the defeats are more our own fault than the elevated play of the opposing teams. On a positive note, the defense has looked MUCH better these last three games. Here’s to our “work in progress” Celts! And here’s to Boston fans showing patience and understanding… We’ll get there. We have talent from the top floor of the front office to the end of our bench. Just have to make all the pieces work together.

  • bill_nair

    …And Waters wet.

    I think the teams biggest issue is the double digit leads they can gain. This team doesn’t deserve to be winning by double digits at ANY point the way they come out and play in the 2nd half of games. Its like they won the game after a good 1st quarter and just cruise control til the 4th. Wallace needs to grab someone in the locker room by the throat and slam them, its like no one on this roster cares. Good thing Danny set this roster up to fail or I wouldn’t be able to stomach watching this team.

    • Sean McLaughlin

      hear hear! Wallace was the one I was thinking of, just didn’t think it was fair to call him out seeing as he doesn’t see very many minutes anymore. Either him or Rondo, but Rondo seems to have the same defeatist mentality in the 4th as of the last few games as well. And he’s my favorite player once KG leaves the league, so that was hard to type. :-/

      • bill_nair

        Rondo looks like hes given up. Its unfortunate cause I want him here and succeeding in green but he looks like he wants out. And if he doesn’t step it up no point in having him here. The reason i mentioned Wallace though is cause if Rondo were to yell at any guys in the locker room it would be turned into “what an awful captain” immediately. Someone needs to speak up though and if its not Rondo, Bass or Wallace its kind of useless.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          No doubt… I can’t pretend to know what Rondo’s thinking, (I’ll leave that up to the media lol), but I really don’t think he wants out. Just more discouraged by the number of losses after viewing so much success in the beginning of games. His free throw shooting woes can’t be helping his morale either. But you’re totally right, it HAS to be a veteran that stands up and DEMANDS production. Now Wallace can’t claim the championship status like Rondo can, but sad to say he is the most aggressively vocal. Everyone was complaining about him complaining last year, but that’s definitely what needs to happen on a nightly basis until we string together a few W’s…

          • bill_nair

            I hope he doesn’t want out but here is a player whos had 2 losing seasons in his entire career. I cant blame him for wanting out or getting mad cause the team sucks and our roster is mediocre. But at the same time, HE needs to give more effort and have the proper body language. HE’s the captain and they follow his lead and that certainly is not going on (or it is and explains why were playing poorly). I’m just hoping its a funk right now. But its less than 20 games into our 2nd year of a rebuild, im not close to losing any sleep over this team.

            And admittedly, I hated whenever Wallace opened his mouth last year but he was always right. Hearing less from him has actually been………discouraging.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            On a positive note. Smart’s probable for tonight against the Pistons. :) Anxious to see him fit in to our newly found defensive presence.

          • bill_nair

            I wish he could bottle a little of his tenacity and sell it to Sully and KO. I cant wait to see him play again though.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            Kelly needs more than a little lol, but I’m really LOVING Sully this year. If anyone is close to consistent on this team besides Bass, it’s him. Puts in hard work every night.

      • disqus_mjP1eNT2Nf

        Well if Rondo thinks of himself as worthy of a max, now is the time to show us. He is the captain, let him lead by example, less talk from him, and more action, treat every game like its game 7 of the finals.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          Totally agree! Although I really haven’t heard much “talk” out of him this season. Most of what I hear about is him reaching out for advice like his conversation with Tommy on Monday. Has KG on speed dial. Even still asks advice of Doc, from what I’ve read. I must say though, 19 assists and 12 rebounds is nothing to sneeze at. He’ll find his way, I’m confident of that much. It’s just a matter of whether or not he can be the leader that we want him to be. It’s been cast upon him much like it was Pierce back in the day, it’s gonna take some time to adjust. Seems like Boston fans expected one year of rebuilding based on what I’ve been reading lately. While that’s POSSIBLE, it’s definitely not PROBABLE.

          • forever_green

            People are expecting Rondo to be the new scoring closer, he will never be that. That’s not his game.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            No doubt. I don’t fault him for it, though. I mean, he’s nicknamed Mr. Triple Double. What more could you ask for from a 6’1 point guard that dishes dimes like John Stockton and rebounds like a PF or C…?

  • Jack Howland

    I liked Tommy’s quote last night, to the effective of, “You don’t have to get a stop to push the pace. If the other team scores, put it in play quickly to the furthest guy down court. KO shouldn’t be waiting for Rondo to walk back to the baseline for the ball, and Rondo shouldn’t walking the ball up the court. Push the pace all the time, whether the other team scores or not.”

  • forever_green

    At least Brad sees how soft we are now. Thats a start. How bad is it when you can’t guard Korver, sad. Please make some trades DA.