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Your Morning Dump… Where offense comes from defense

Mike Dynon (@MikeDynon) January 14, 2016 Celtics News, Isaiah Thomas, Sam Jones, The Morning Dump 36 Comments

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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big story line. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

Over a stretch of just 1 minute, 34 seconds, the Celtics had taken the ball from the Pacers four times and gotten fast-break baskets after each swipe.

“We needed it,” Smart said. “Everybody was out there talking, ‘We need this game. We can’t lose this game. Somebody’s got to make a play.’ And four different guys made four different plays [in] under a minute and a half.”

The Pacers were scoreless over the game’s final two minutes, and the Celtics closed the game with a 12-0 run and had their victory. When the final seconds ticked away, there was a palpable sense of relief, both in the Garden crowd and on the Celtics’ bench.

GlobeCeltics finish strong to edge Pacers, end slide

“I was fighting [the notion that Boston might give another game away,]” Crowder said. “I didn’t want to think about that. I was just trying to stay positive, saying we were going to win it and pull through. We got to do it together. That’s what I kept saying. I wasn’t thinking about what happened before.”

ESPN BostonDesperate Celtics find a way to steal victory from Pacers

During their four-game losing streak before last night, the Celtics couldn’t get stops in the fourth quarters, giving up 33, 27, 33 and 35 points (32.0 per game). Fans were frustrated by Boston blowing leads and letting each of those games slip away.

Normally, pro athletes are the most confident people around, but as indicated by the players’ comments above, doubt was even creeping into the Celtics’ locker room. But fear is a great motivator, and the Cs responded in the fourth quarter against Indiana.

The Pacers scored just 18 points on 8-22 shooting. They missed all five of their three-pointers. And the Celts stopped Indy without fouling, committing just four personals and allowing the Pacers to shoot just two free throws. Then there was the quartet of steals, creating offense from defense, like they did so often in the early weeks of this season. Beautiful basketball.

Now let’s see them do it again on Friday.

On Page 2: Playing big, reaching high

In September, shortly before the start of the 2015-16 season, Thomas noted, “I want to be the best guy to ever play under six feet. That’s a goal of mine and I’m going to try to reach that.” […]

One surefire way for Thomas to insert himself into the “best little man” discussion is an All-Star appearance. Only eight players in NBA history under six feet have been voted to an All-Star game and only four since 1979 in Calvin Murphy (1979), Dana Barros (1995), Michael Adams (1992), and Terrell Brandon (1996, 1997). […]

The NBA’s first two returns on 2016 All-Star fan voting found Thomas ranked ninth overall among Eastern Conference backcourt players.

ESPN BostonIsaiah Thomas’ not-so-small quest to become an All-Star

After Thomas scored 35 and 34 points in losses this week, it came to light that the Celtics were 2-8 when he scores 24 or more points this season (although he had 28 in last night’s win). That sounds bad, but how can you fault the little lefty when he is the only one regularly producing offense? And there’s this:

Only six players this season are averaging 21-plus points and 6-plus assists per game: Stephen Curry, James Harden, LeBron James, Russell Westbrook, Damian Lillard, and Thomas, with the other five players being named All-Stars last season.

That’s a distinguished group. Clearly, there’s no way IT gets voted an All-Star by the fans, but if the Cs are above .500 when the coaches choose the subs, it’s going to be tough for them not to choose Thomas.

And, finally: Sam Jones might be the most underrated player ever

Let’s get this straight up front: Player rankings are of no value except 1) to provide website content, and 2) to generate controversy and therefore attention for the website. Rankings are based on opinion and statistics, both of which can be shaped to support any point of view.

I try to ignore rankings, but this time it was impossible. ESPN’s top 10 shooting guards of all time did not include Celtics legend Sam Jones. No. 24 on your banner of retired numbers played 12 seasons in Boston and averaged 17.7 points, 4.9 rebounds and 2.5 assists per game. Sam shot .456 from the floor in the era before three-pointers, plus .803 from the line. He’s also in the Hall of Fame.

Those are the basics about Sam’s career, but his most important achievement was winning 10 NBA championships. His ring-for-each-finger total is second all-time to Bill Russell’s 11. Of course, Sam was clutch. Examples: he made the shot to win the Eastern Conference final in Game 7 versus Philadelphia in 1962; dropped 51 at Madison Square Garden in a playoff closeout game versus the Knicks in 1967; and sank the game-winner with one second left in Game 4 of the 1969 Finals, bringing Boston into a 2-2 series tie (they won in seven).

Yet it seems to all be forgotten.

Take a look at the ESPN list. No one would argue against Michael and Kobe taking the top spots. Jerry West, one of Sam’s contemporaries, is ranked third and I won’t deny it. I’ll even give them DWade at no. 4. But after that, Sam was as good as or better than every one of them. His 10 rings are more than the total of players 3-10. No matter what his exact ranking would be, he definitely deserves to be in the top 10.

Trust me on this: Sam was legit and the list is bogus.

The Rest of the Links:

MassLiveIsaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, wild finish propel Boston Celtics past Indiana Pacers, 103-94

HeraldCeltics bullish on Pacers, end losing streak

CSNNEStars, studs and duds: Crowder ‘really improved his game’

NESNCeltics’ Relentless ‘Pitbulls’ Overwhelm Pacers as Small Lineup Shines

Indy StarPacers: ‘Today was pretty much inexcusable’

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  • Sean

    It confuses me when Brad lets Crowder/ET run point. What do we have PGs for then?

    • Curt Hays

      How about when they run Flex and Amir never hits the first open guy? He eventually finds someone to pass to, but the first guy is open ALL THE TIME.

      I mean, I realize that, with Flex, you have to let the play develop, but geeeez.

      • Sean

        I’m hoping Amir and David Lee don’t both end up being Jermaine O’neals.

        Evan Turner never passes the ball to people who might take his minutes when they’re open. RJ, young, even jonas sometimes. Instead he throws it to the other team.

        • Curt Hays

          Since the first time you pointed that out about ET, I’ve done nothing but notice it.

          • Sean

            I know Brad Stevens is smarter than me x100000000 when it comes to bball, but I can’t believe he doesn’t see it. And if he does why does he keep letting it happen. I’d rather have a contested 3pt shot than an ET pass to a wide open player in the paint. Let’s all pray to the bball gods for a trade.

          • Curt Hays

            I see ET as the type of guy who will win a playoff game for us at some point. I’d keep him unless you can turn him into Paul George or something.

            Brad may see it, but maybe he’s less of a micro manager than that. He seems to spend more time figuring out how to work with what he’s got than figuring out how to reshape what he’s got. That’s what assistants are for.

          • Sean

            I used to think his passing was bad because of the way his head is shaped. But Rondo had the same kind of alien head.

            Yea I trust Brad to figure it out. I just feel like there’s more potential and we might be a better team playing everyone else he’s taking minutes from. Even when he come’s in for Crowder, I kind’ve want him to play more minutes since he’s probably been our most consistent player this year. I’m probably wrong.

          • Curt Hays

            He got hit by a car when he was 5. Take it easy on the guy. :)

            Crowder though…he just can’t miss lately. We need to find another one of him…like maybe Jimmy Butler.

          • Sean

            I think Crowder and Butler used to be teammates. Butler supposedly doesn’t like his teammates. One can dream.

          • Curt Hays

            Yeah, at Marquette. They’re old pals. Make it happen, Danny. Send them Brook Lopez and whatever else you can get in return for Butler and Noah.
            Then trade Noah. He’s a…

          • Sean

            I like the way you think. I’m a Gator fan so I’d really want to keep Noah, but I seen how Lee ended up so idk.

            If we can or can’t get Butler, I think Al Horford in Brads system would be the best center in the league.

          • Curt Hays

            Except Noah is a sissy. For real. He said that KG is mean.

          • Sean

            He can’t shoot, run fast, or defend well anymore either. Seems like this year everybody on the block is somebody we don’t want/need. Think they’d take Young, ET, Sully and the BK pick for Butler?

          • Curt Hays

            Idk, but I’d accept that trade.

          • Sean

            Throw in Zeller just cause.

      • Gregg Futch

        I would love to understand this comment. Is this video a good representation of flex as the Celtics use it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guIVipwTyuw

        • Curt Hays

          Yeah, that’s close enough to real Flex. The key is that there are a lot of picks being set both towards and away from the ball which allows for lots of defensive mistakes. In order to capitalize on those mistakes, the guy with the ball needs to be patient and looking at the guys having screen set for them.

          When the Cs run their version of this, Amir is number 2 but he is closer to the elbow. When he gets the ball, Isaiah makes the back pick and, because Amir’s back is to the basket, Amir never sees number 4 (usually Bradley or Turner) WIDE EFFING OPEN under the rim for an instant.

          Kelly is a much better guy to have in that position.

          • Gregg Futch

            thanks

  • Curt Hays

    OMG OMG OMG

    This is, like, literally the best team in the NBA!

  • Curt Hays

    Ladies and gentlemen,

    The Celtics nuts have finally dropped.

  • Adam Stark

    David Lee got another DNP. I’m happy. Now to give Hunter some of Turners time and let Mickey play a little!

  • RedsLoveChild

    Jones probably is the most underrated player ever….Iverson is by far the most overrated player ever.

    Monroe was more “entertaining” than great, and he stopped being entertaining/great at age 26 when NY acquired him.

    Sam`s playoff heroics are way too numerous to list. In Game 7 of the `63 ECF, Oscar Robertson dropped 43 on the Celtics, but Sam scored 47 that night….which remains the most points ever scored in any Game 7 in NBA history,

    • Mike Dynon

      OUTSTANDING comment. Thanks for adding the 47-point info, which I forgot about.

      • Curt Hays

        @disqus_KXUUxqnj5U:disqus was there for every game. And he was in his 50s at that time!

        • Mike Dynon

          Ha! I think you’re making that up. But I’ll admit to being so old that I was at the ’67 game in NY (I grew up there) and the ’69 game in Boston (college freshman year). Good memories.

          • Curt Hays

            That makes it even cooler that you’re writing for us.

          • RedsLoveChild

            That `67 game in NY was televised back here…Freddie Crawford did a good job of keeping things interesting that night.
            The `69 Finals? To me, every detail of Russell`s last playoff run vs. PHL/NY/LA feels like 2 weeks ago!

        • RedsLoveChild

          Did I attend Sam`s 47 point game on 4-10-63?
          Believe me, I wanted to!

          That was a Wednesday. Family obligations got in the way.
          Just my luck, I had to attend my great-grandson`s piano recital that night.

          • Curt Hays

            This is such a legendary post. I just spit my tea out.

      • Richard Jensen

        http://www.celtic-nation.com/interviews/sam_jones/sam_jones_page1.htm

        The *real* Mr. Clutch

        Bill Russell on Sam Jones: “At one point, we won a total of eight consecutive NBA championships, and
        six times during that run we asked Sam to take the shot that meant the season.
        If he didn’t hit the shot we were finished – we were going home empty-handed.
        He never missed.”

        • Mike Dynon

          You are correct, sir! The nickname Mr. Clutch was coined for West by Chick Hearn, so it’s dubious. After all, West was 1-7 in Finals and 0-6 vs. Sam/Celts.

          • RedsLoveChild

            West was awesome! During the `60s, Wilt was the only Celtic opponent who was scarier than West.

            Unlike Sam, who had Russell at center, West was stuck with Darrall Imhoff and Leroy Ellis. Except, of course, in `69.

          • Mike Dynon

            Let me clarify that I believe West was an all-timer, but if anyone was 1-7 in finals in this era, he’d be called a choker. “Mr. Clutch” developed as a marketing effort during the Lakers’ early years in LA.

          • RedsLoveChild

            True.

            Sadly, at some point during the past 20 years or so…,”greatness” became foolishly defined by how many championship teams a guy played on.

            And, should his team lose in the Finals for any reason at all, that is now viewed as worse than not making the Finals at all!

          • RedsLoveChild

            West was actually 1-8….you might be overlooking 1973

          • Mike Dynon

            I did. 1-8, even worse!