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I called Kelly Olynyk “borderline untouchable”… and here’s why

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) December 28, 2015 Celtics News, Kelly Olynyk 21 Comments

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Aside from a stretch of play that caused me to launch into a frustrated podcast rant, Kelly Olynyk has had a pretty good month of December. We were treated to more great play last night, despite him being limited by foul trouble.

Last night, while lauding his play on Twitter, I took it a step further and said…

This is the point where you jump to the comments and call me a lunatic without reading any further.

HOWEVER…

If you’d like to keep reading, I think I can make my point.

In short: Kelly Olynkyk, frustrating as he might be for some stretches of games, is slowly developing a pretty nice offensive game. He’s showing the aggression necessary to be a matchup problem much more often this season. When he’s doing that, he radically affects the game. On top of all he’s doing offensively, he’s now added a defensive element to his game that’s making it easier to play him with different combinations of players.

The bottom line, to me, is that you don’t trade away the kind of guy the whole league is looking for.. a stretch big who can also dribble, pass, and not hurt you on defense. The only way trading him away makes sense to me is getting that superstar player in return. Olynyk, to me, is untouchable in a lower-level deal. His skill set is too unique to give away unless you’re getting something big in return.

Don’t believe me? Here’s a look at his numbers…

First let’s set the baseline. Here are some of Kelly Olynyk’s relevant career numbers:

19.7 Minutes per game
Offensive rating: 106
Defensive rating: 103
True Shooting: 55.8%
Points: 9.5
Rebounds: 4.8
Assists: 1.6

Nothing eye-popping there. But now here’s his December:

23.2 Minutes per game
Offensive rating: 109
Defensive rating: 98
True Shooting: 60.8%
Points: 13.2
Rebounds: 4.5
Assists: 1.8

There’s evidence that Kelly Olynyk should be on the floor more. In games this season where he’s played 20 or more minutes, the Celtics are 12-2 and those two losses were to the Cavaliers and Warriors…

In terms of +/-…

  • Olynyk is part of the top three 2-man combinations (with, in order Jae Crowder (+15.7), Jared Sullinger (+13), and Amir Johnson (+12.4))
  • Olynyk is part of the top three 3-man combinations (with Crowder/Isaiah Thomas (+24.6), Johnson/Thomas (+20.6), and Crowder/Johnson (20.5))
  • Olynyk is part of the top 4-man combination (with Avery Bradley/Thomas/Crowder (+30/3))
  • Olynyk is part of the top 5-man combination (with Bradley/Crowder/Thomas/Evan Turner (+81.4))

When Olynyk scores at least 11 points, the Celtics are 10-2. One loss is to Toronto, when he scored 11 points in 16 minutes. The other was to the Warriors… Olynyk had 28 points and was pretty awesome.

Olynyk is only in his third year and he doesn’t turn 25 until April. He’ll have bad stretches again during the season, and I might fall victim to the same frustrations, but it’s only because I know he can be a pretty good player. When he’s at his best, he has a positive effect on everyone else on the floor with his ability to provide space while also scoring and making good decisions with the basketball.

He’s not always at his best, but we’re starting to see Olynyk figure things out. He’s making subtle plays that show he’s learning the game and fulfilling some of the promise heaped upon him when he was dominating summer league games. He’s gotten to a point where his value to a team goes well beyond the $2.1 million he’s making under his rookie deal.

So again, I don’t see any reason to move the guy unless a superstar suddenly becomes available. Other than that, there aren’t a lot of guys in the league that can do what Olynyk does at that position. Whenever Trader Danny starts cookin’, I’d prefer he leave Kelly Olynyk off the table.

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  • mailepors

    totally agree. dump sully (can get more value for sully then kelly anyway) before Olynyk

    • Jester00

      Boooooo Sully is solid

  • swissflix

    He was whistled for some silly calls against the Knicks. Would have scored more had he not gotten those ridiculous foul calls.

  • forever_green

    And to think Pierce & KG were still here when we drafted him. You don’t have to tank to get lucky. Just Saying.

    Would have been nice to see them play together.

    • John Dohe

      Would have been even nicer if KG trained Kelly and some of his aggression rubbed off…

  • Paul

    He’s definitely not the throw-in he was before.

    I’d like to see Kelly in the starting lineup with Smart. I still think IT is better off the bench/crunch time and he’s great in a pick & roll with Johnson. Start the game with Smart, Bradley, Turner, Crowder and Kelly. That’s enough shooting to keep things open and is still great defensively even with moving Amir to the bench.

    • Jester00

      they would be hard pressed to get a rebound

  • jrleftfoot

    I agree completely. I wouldn`t ditch either him or Sullinger, but I think Olynyk has a much higher upside.

    • Jester00

      Standing and Clapping right now

  • jrleftfoot

    I wasn`t suggesting dumping Sullinger. Solid rebounders are always welcome

  • DRJ

    i used to think refs just don’t like Kelly. But when I looked closer at his many fouls, I saw that in fact, he just doesn’t know how to guard without fouling. He still gets some bad calls, but he always LOOKS like he’s fouling even when he isn’t. If he could fix this flaw in his game, he could be great.

    • swissflix

      He still uses his hands too much but his footwork has really improved. Does not leap as quickly anymore as he used to do.

      • DRJ

        He’s def improved, agree. But he’s having trouble finishing games because of fouls, and that’s just a fact. So he’s going to have to improve further on D if he wants to really get to his next level.

  • Adam Stark

    My list, in order from ‘get outta here’ to ‘never trade’ (unless for superstar)

    David Lee
    Jones Jarebko
    Evan Turner
    James Young
    Terry Rozier
    Tyler Zeller
    Jordan Mickey
    Amir Johnson
    R J Hunter
    Jared Sullinger
    Avery Bradley
    Kelly Olynyk
    Isaiah Thomas
    Jae Crowder
    Marcus Smart

    • Micah Sharon

      Jerebko is solid, he does a lot of good for the Celtics defensively, especially when he is at the power forward because he cannot guard small forwards as the initial assignment…. Zeller has been bad defensively, he is so clueless he needs to be higher on the list and Jerebko lower…. and Turner has been quietly much more productive when he is playing/guardign point guards and shooting guards and he’s become a real positive as of late….

      David Lee
      Tyler Zeller
      Terry Rozier
      James Young
      Evan Turner/Jonas Jerebko
      Amir Johnson
      Jordan Mickey
      R J Hunter
      Jared Sullinger
      Avery Bradley
      Kelly Olynyk
      Isaiah Thomas
      Jae Crowder
      Marcus Smart

      • Adam Stark

        I do see your point but I would rather see Olynyk get 30 minuets a night rather than giving them to a player that has hit ceiling. He’s a good trade piece as well with next year non guarantied. At least we agree with R J Hunter down. I would like to see some Jordan Mickey more too. It’s just frustrating not having enough playing time to go around.

        • KGino

          it sounds crazy, but the C’s absolutely need Turner as currently constructed.

      • stephen

        i used to hate turner but now i’m really liking him and hoping he stays for a long time because he can do a lot of things. only if he can learn how to guard he would be the complete role player everyone needs.

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