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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big story line. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

At the time the team acquired Perry Jones, the Boston Herald’s Steve Bulpett reported Jones will “get a good, long look, but he’s no sure bet to be on the Celtics’ roster opening night.” Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge may have implied a similar message, saying, among other things, “We’ll see how (Jones) fits in with our system.” It’s worth noting the Thunder couldn’t find any team willing to part with an asset for Jones. To dump his salary, they were forced to give the Celtics a future second-round pick. That would be why waiving him, rather than trading him, might be an option.

One problem with potentially waiving Jones: largely an unknown commodity, the 23-year-old theoretically possesses a load of untapped potential. During his time with the Thunder, James Harden called Jones “probably the most athletic (player) on the team” — while the team featured Russell (bleeping) Westbrook — and Kevin Durant labeled Jones the best athlete in the league. The 6-foot-11 Jones is a long, versatile wing who has strung together some impressive stretches on NBA courts, and there’s a chance he could look substantially better in Brad Stevens’ system. This is a guy with tools.

MassLiveBoston Celtics roster crunch: Should Perry Jones be the odd man out?

Jay King is about the only Celtics beat writer who doesn’t appear to be on vacation (which we appreciate), and he has taken a look at the question all Celtics fans are asking: How can the Cs reduce their roster from the current 17 bodies to the regular-season maximum of 15?

Will there be a trade to replenish the stockpile of assets, or perhaps even to upgrade the talent going into training camp? Or will Danny Ainge be forced to cut a couple of potential contributors?

As covered in the article, conventional wisdom is that Zoran Dragic will be waived or traded before he ever dons a green uniform. The other vulnerable player seems to be Perry Jones. But, as noted above, he’s got soooo much potential. He’s athletic! Who knows what he could become?!

It’s August, so of course we’re obsessing about who should be the 12th or 15th man on a team that most observers agree will at best grab a low rung in the playoffs. The difficulty is that Boston has a deep squad of players capable of contributing, but very few who are difference-makers. If Jones stays on board, he might be glued to the bench or he might be a starter. We just don’t know yet.

Of the trade options considered in the article, the one that makes the most sense is Evan Turner. Granted, he hit several game-winning shots and became a consistent triple-double threat, but he dominates the ball, takes minutes away from the younger guys, and is one of the worst passers in basketball history. He’s not called Evan Turnover for nothing.

As pointed out by KWAPT in Wednesday’s Dump, because Dante Exum was injured while playing for the Australian national team this week, the Jazz might be in the market for the skills Turner possesses. If Danny could make this happen, it would be addition by subtraction.

That would still not take Jared Sullinger or Kelly Olynyk off the hook. It’s time for them to break through and consistently deliver on their potential, or risk being part of a trade deadline deal. We’ve heard that Sully is slimming down this summer, but has KO been doing anything to beef up? Although he’s proven he can dislocate someone’s shoulder, his weakness is his weakness. Kelly gets pushed around so much that he’s often out of position, which results in foul trouble (he has averaged 5.6 personals per 36 minutes over his two seasons). Let’s hope he has been living in the weight room this summer.

On Page 2: Stan could learn some things from Dan

The Celtics got an underrated player in Johnson, and while he may not be a top-tier free agent, the team inked him to an extremely valuable contract.

Johnson will make $12 million for two straight seasons, but his salary for 2016-17 is non-guaranteed, making him an attractive trade asset for a team looking to shed salary.

Basketball InsidersThe Best Values in NBA Free Agency

First, I think Monroe was worth a max contract summer. Even if he wasn’t an ideal fit Drummond – Detroit’s franchise player – Monroe still would have had plenty of trade value. Given the number of teams that offered him the max in free agency this year, I think the Pistons could have eventually traded Monroe for better return than Ilyasova, Morris and Bullock.

That’s especially true if the Pistons had dumped Smith sooner. The 2013-14 season proved Smith, Monroe and Drummond couldn’t effectively play together. But Van Gundy wanted to see for himself, and that further alienated Monroe from the Pistons.

Pro Basketball Talk – Stan Van Gundy second-guesses himself on Pistons’ handling of Greg Monroe

Ainge is not immune to mistakes, but at least he has no reason to second-guess himself about losing a building block player for nothing. Since we’re not Pistons fans, it’s sort of amusing to read this commentary that SVG messed up his squad by forcing Greg Monroe to play alongside Josh Smith. The same Josh Smith who Stan later discarded and got zip in return. And the same Greg Monroe who bolted to Milwaukee in free agency, again leaving the Pistons with zero.

Compare that to Ainge signing Amir Johnson, who – according to the Basketball Insiders piece – was the second-best value free agent this summer (behind only LeBron). Ainge also gave up basically nothing in transactions that brought Dragic, Jerebko, Jones, Lee, Thomas, Turner and Zeller to Boston. And because Rondo flamed out in Dallas, you could add Crowder to that list. That’s nine of the current roster of 17, obtained for spare parts and low draft picks. The other eight were draft picks made in recent years.

That’s pretty good. Pretty, pretty, pretty good.

And, finally…Boogie and George

Sorry, Boogie fans, looks like reports of the Kings’ demise have been greatly exaggerated. If Sacramento doesn’t implode, Cousins won’t be available. But we’ll see.

Related: CBS Sports – DeMarcus Cousins and George Karl took a photo together, now what?

The Rest of the Links:

CSNNEBoston Celtics Camp Battles: Bigs | MassLiveColton Iverson’s former team taking legal action | ESPNNational Underwear Day: Pierce not fazed by being pantsed | NBA.com – Summer Dreaming: Who might be next Kia Sixth Man? | Blogtable: Your All-Time, All-Lefty TeamFox SportsJazz publicly support international play despite Exum injury | Pro Basketball TalkKevin Garnett took Mason Plumlee’s crab cake

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  • Fitzy

    In defense of Stan, he didn’t sign Smith to that ugly contract. That sacto pic is a photo-op, nothing more. Boogie will be traded at SOME point (next 3 years) or Sacramento is full of flat-out morons.

  • Jester00

    again Evan Turner is solid player almost 10/6/6 and was a go to player down the stretch. I would keep him warts and all. Who would the great and POWERFUL JESTER00 try and move!!!! It may upset some people but James Young, sure the up side could be there, but he looks lost on D, he does not move that well with or with out the ball, and his jumper is on a milk carton for missing and exploited jumpers. Just my thoughts, who do you think they should move, let me hear you fans of the Celtics and Redsarmy.

    • Thatguy

      ” he does not move that well with or with out the ball,”

      …At least he’s consistent in that regard?

      I’d honestly package them first together and try get a (late) first round pick (somehow, if this ends up being the whole jazz thing). Clears up some MUCH needed space and gives us another piece to play with.

    • NE_Celt

      My first two players to get cut would be Dragic and Young. Youngs missing shot concerns me, but also the fact he keeps getting these little injuries and not alerting the trainers about them…and by the time he does, he is down for several games.

      I liked what Turner gave us last season, but I am not against him being on the trading block…I think we have enough young talent to replace him IF Smart can start creating for himself and getting to the basket more…like he showed in Summer League.

      Everything I read about Jones is good…I like his size and sounds like if he has the right system and coaching, he could be a really impressive player. So I wouldn’t mind him sticking around and showing us what hes got.

    • Andre

      Yeah if we have to weigh potential in guys, I’m going with PJIII > Young. I would much rather take a gamble on a 6’11 guy that I’ve seen score 32 in a game and shoot 41% from behind the line over a three game stretch…

    • jrleftfoot

      I agree .ho is trading Turner addition by subtacinon.? He did everygthing asked of him ast year.

  • CFH

    That picture does nothing to convince me that Sacramento isn’t in for a hilarious implosion. (Hilarious unless you’re a Kings fan that is.) It’s a lot easier to throw your arm over someone’s shoulder and pose for 45 seconds than it is to deal with what you see as his belittling comments day in and day out.

    • KGino

      boogie, Rondo, and Cauley-Stein walk into a locker room after a 20 point loss to the spurs. What could possibly go wrong??

    • Curt Hays

      Is that Vlad though? Vlad, physically, makes Boogie look like a toddler.

      • check12check

        seriously! holy smokes cousins looks tiny in comparison

    • Eisenhorn1976

      Yeah. Besides, Kevin McHale and Barkley have said it many times: “everything’s OK — and everyone feels great — because it’s OFFSEASON.” We’ll see once the season starts. My feeling is the Kings will be either really good or downright terrible. There doesn’t seem to be a middle ground for them.

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  • Curt Hays

    Mike, you’ve got a great writing style. I hope you stick around with Reds Army for a while.

    • Mike Dynon

      Thanks!

  • eddysamson

    I think its imperative that we keep PJ3 just to see how he does in our system. At this point the only negative to keeping him is losing someone else. We got him for nothing and there is literally zero risk to trying him out with our deeply stacked roster.

    • Richard Jensen

      Unless the Jazz offer a first rounder for Turner (probably not happening), I don’t think Ainge makes any moves until training camp starts. Then, I think he’ll pick the disposable guy(s) and start shopping them for second round picks.

  • Tim Brown

    It’s too early to give up on Young.
    I’m on the fence concerning Turner. He’s a valuable asset. I’m as impressed with his effort on defense as much as his offense. Seems like an ideal 6th or 7th man. Personally, I hope Sully is in shape, shows good early and can be traded asap.

  • GreenBirdCro

    As much as I love what this group of guys did this past season and what they might be capable of doing in the next one (judging from their interesting personal qualities and unique sets of talent), I am more and more hoping of another nuclear option, like the one we had b4 the Big Three Era. And it’s not that I have high hopes of repeating that magic. It’s more the feeling that making a contender out of this group will be a humongous headscratcher. A handful of has-beens, a handful of could’ve-beens and a handful of stil-might-beens. All in all a group of 17 guys de facto fighting for the bench of our future contender team. Wish I am wrong, but… Just hope we won’t have to wait for another 2 decades for the 18th.. .

  • adam

    This team is going to look very different by the time the season starts and even more by the trade deadline. I like what Turner brings, but I don’t see a role for him past this season. I think either Sully or Kelly will be gone too by the end of the season. Maybe that PJ3 guy also. and Maybe James Young if RJ works out really well.