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Your Morning Dump… Where you’ll probably hate what LeBron did last night

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) May 27, 2015 Around the NBA, James Young, The Morning Dump 37 Comments

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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big story line. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

James dominated this series. He had 23 points, nine rebounds and seven assists in Game 4, and for the lopsided series, he averaged 30.3 points, 11 rebounds and 9.3 assists, becoming the first player in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 11 rebounds and nine assists in a series, according to Elias Sports Bureau.

He also joins another exclusive list: He will play in his fifth consecutive NBA Finals, joining of short list of former Boston Celtics who did it in the 1960s and he is the first non-Celtic to do it and first to do it with two teams.

USA Today

Yup… up until last night, the only players to go to five straight NBA Finals have all been Celtics.

Now LeBron has done it.

But, unlike LeBron, Bill Russell didn’t need to join forces with Wilt Chamberlain and Bob Pettit in St. Louis to make that happen. So that last quoted line is misleading because it means to say he’s the first to make five straight Finals with two teams combined.

Now I don’t hate LeBron quite like some of you do, so I’m not going to take away from the impressiveness of going to the Finals again. Atlanta had no answers for him at all in this very quick series. The New York City Police Department should get an assist for breaking Thabo Sefolosha’s leg, and Matthew Delevedova gets another for taking out Kyle Korver (who needs surgery to fix his badly sprained ankle) and Al Horford, that latter of which could have at least helped make the series 2-1 rather than 3-0 going into last night and somewhat interesting.

But you need breaks to get where you’re going (no, Thabo, no pun intended there) in the NBA, and LeBron got a few. Now he’s in the NBA Finals again, waiting for Steph Curry and the Warriors to finish off Houston.  The Dubs will try to be the first team since Michael Jordan’s first Bulls title to win it all with no Finals experience.

So if anyone would like to join me in the front cab of the Warriors bandwagon, hop in. I’m throwing on a double-zero Golden State throwback and hopping into the driver’s seat.  Steph Curry’s season, and postseason, has been too good and too much fun to end without him raising trophies in a few weeks.

Page 2: Can James Young make an impact this season?

“We had our interviews in Chicago [earlier this month] at the combine and we interviewed 18 guys. A pretty consistent question is, ‘Do you understand how hard this is going to be?’” Stevens said last week during a stint as guest co-host on Mike & Mike. “It’s a hard transition — 82 games in and of itself is a monster.

Added Stevens: “They may have an idea — like I had an idea [jumping from the college level] — but it’s different. It’s really difficult. We had a 19-year-old this year in James Young, who we think is going to be a fantastic player, whose work ethic is good, who comes to the gym every day, who’s getting better — and he didn’t always get that validation of how much better he’s getting by playing time. That’s a hard position to be in because you’re going through the mundaneness of everyday work and not getting the reward of playing time.

“Ultimately, over the course of time, [Young is] going to be ready, sooner rather than later.”

ESPN Boston: Young and Hungry?

I was asked this question yesterday on Twitter…

It’s a complicated question because, as James said, the Celtics really do need a shooter. And, as Brad Stevens suggested, James Young really could be the guy.

But even as the Salt Lake City and Las Vegas Summer League approach in a couple of months, it won’t be until November or December that we really find the answers. Which means July and August will be spent throwing money at free agents who may help in that role, only to find that role suddenly crowded as Young matures.

We’ve seen what Young does to D-League talent, and Summer League is full of that level of talent. So I’m fully expecting Young to impress a lot of people (I’m going to try to keep my wits about me when this happens so I don’t write stupid things in July). Hell, he impressed people in a few regular season games this past season. There’s no doubt this kid can shoot. But can he PLAY?

Can he create his own shot a the NBA level? Can he move without the ball? Can he work within the offense, help his teammates, and play a little defense?  And if he does start doing that, can he maintain it? Can he become a consistently good player?

It’s there. We can see it in him. But, unfortunately, we’ve seen it in other guys before. We’ve seen that frustratingly tantalizing talent bubbling just below the surface but never breaking through many times over the recent past. What’s James Young going to do to be different? What’s he going to do to not be the next Gerald Green type who has to spend half is career maturing overseas before returning and becoming a solid contributor?

The question with Young isn’t “can he.” He can. But will he?

And Finally…

.. few things piss me off more than Twitter “doctors” who sit on their couches and question the decisions of actual doctors. So when Steph Curry came out of the locker room two nights ago after that scary fall, he was ushered back with the Twitter uproar about whether he was making the right decision.

Well, he did, because he was checked not once, but twice

In fact, according to Warriors general manager Bob Myers, the team doctors made Curry duplicate the concussion protocols to be doubly sure.

After that, Curry went into the hallway and ran back and forth a few times, which is not on any concussion protocol, but was common careful sense after such a scary fall.

[…] Curry looked, sounded and tested fine on Monday night and there were no indications about any further problems, Myers said on Tuesday, before the Warriors departed their hotel to fly back to the Bay Area.“At the very, very end, when he passed the tests, then it became ‘there’s no reason he couldn’t play,’” Myers said. “So then it was, he passed the tests, passed them once, passed them twice…

“At that moment, he looked at me, said, ‘Yeah, I’m ready to go.’”

Some people think team doctors are just a bunch of Dr. Nick Rivieras who give the diagnosis the team needs when in fact these are all people with their own private practices and reputations to uphold. When I needed surgery to repair a separated shoulder, I went to the practice run by the Celtics team doctor because that made me feel confident that it would be properly fixed. If they were just a bunch of hacks who did Ainge’s bidding, it’d be obvious, and no one would want to actually see them in real life.

Same with the Warriors doctors, who would have been ruined if Curry went out there on national TV with a concussion. They’d have had to answer questions about why they let a concussed player out there, why they’d rubber-stamp risking the MVP’s health in a Game 4 blowout when they’re up 3-0.

Curry is ready to go tonight. Time to drop 41 on Houston at home and prepare to end LeBron’s season.

The rest of the links:

Globe: There’s no such thing as a sure thing in NBA draft  |  Herald: Brad Stevens enjoys watch and learn role for draft  |  CSNNE: Possible small forward targets for Celtics  |  Crowder making great strides in return from knee injury  |  Celtics readying for draft prospect workouts all week  |  ESPN Boston: Celtics salary by the numbers  |  MassLive: Celtics rumors: Crowder wants to stay long term  |  Is Robert Upshaw worth the risk?

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  • adam

    If Lester Hudson can find a small niche in the NBA, James Young can. I wonder How Kevin Love feels that he isn’t playing in any of these games.

  • bill_nair

    Young needs to work on his ball handling and his defense.

  • NE_Celt

    I tuned into last nights game for 5 minutes…enough to watch Lebron have a hissy fit over the ref calling the ball off him on a pass…enough for the refs to think about it, and over rule it…gotta make the king happy afterall…his complaining was to the level that it would have been a tech if it was any other player.

    But I digress….make room, I am hopping on that Warriors bandwagon! I agree, Steph and the Warriors have had a phenomenal season and post season…they deserve to win it.

    • Mike C

      Glad someone else picked up on this too. This was the exact time when I turned the game off. Sickening how Lebron can confer with refs at half court about what call he wants them to make. Any of our Lebron “Walks on Water” fans that want to explain that one for me?

  • Richard Jensen

    The biggest difference between Russ and Lebron?

    Russ won five straight. LeBron could very well be looking at a 2-3 record.

    • forever_green

      I think you meant 2-4 record?

      • Richard Jensen

        I meant 2-3 in his five consecutive Finals appearances.

      • Redunkulous

        LOL what if Lebron loses again in the finals this year?

    • Curt Hays

      Yeah, but LeBron didn’t have the Celtics. He had to do it with Cleveland and Miami, so Russ had the clear advantage.

  • firm_fiasco

    Seriously this LeBron hate has got to stop. He is the best player in the world and will go down as one of the greatest if not the greatest to ever do it. Stop during the hate. Two days in a row Reds Army has started the morning dump with something geared towards the hatred of LeBron.

    • art

      I’ve commented before about some of the sour stuff that Red’s Army sometimes comes out with. I could do without the Spurs worshipping and LeBron bashing. Winning is not a reason to bash him. But all-in-all this website is good and informative. Sometimes I suppose they just need something to write about.

    • KGino

      I don’t think anyone on the RedsArmy website will hesitate to tell you Lebron is the best player in the world right now. No one here is hating on his skill.

      Simply put, if you’re the best player in the world, you should carry yourself like it. Not b*tch to the refs about every call he doesn’t get (even though he gets hundreds of calls throughout a season he doesn’t deserve), scream after every dunk, fake injuries, flop, toot your own horn to the media, throw your teammates under the bus, speak on your teammates behalf, etc. etc.

      Maybe you’re too young to have seen how Larry Legend carried himself. But by comparison in that category, Larry is leagues and leagues ahead of Lebron.

      I’m sick of people saying “you should respect Lebron’s greatness”… No one here is disrespecting his skill. What were disrespecting is the fact that he’s the only player in league history to join two other top 10 players in their prime via free agency. That he needs Ray Allen and the referees to bail him out and win him championships. That he bails on his teams to join better ones like a coward. That he says things like “If i could clone myself to play all 5 positions, we wouldn’t have a problem.” That he is the NBA’s poster boy for flopping. That he doesn’t hustle back in transition after he pretends to get fouled and yells at the refs. These are the things that make us hate lebron.

      To sum it all up for you… Lebron James is the reason my respect for Kobe Bryant has probably quintupled over the last 10 years.

      And making the finals in the east this year is not impressive. 5 times in a row is impressive, but this year, whoopty doo. The 2011 Celtics probably could have taken the East.

      • forever_green

        I feel exactly the same as KGino on the LeBron topic. Every time LeBron opens his mouth he sounds like such a douche.

        What got me is when LeBron put himself on the basketball Mount Rushmore & left out Bill Russell, & when commenting on a NON basketball related subject he tooted his own horn about how he knows how much weight his voiced opinion carried.
        Even without considering all the off court stuff LeBron will never be in my top five off all time.

      • bill_nair

        “Lebron James is the reason my respect for Kobe Bryant has probably quintupled over the last 10 years.”

        I just cant get behind this at all.

        • KGino

          lol Bill. I don’t expect anyone here to agree with that statement… But Kobe is old school. Lebron is the leader of the new school… And boy do I hate the new school

          • bill_nair

            I see where your coming from. I respet Kobes mentality more for sure. I just cant stand that weasel faced loser. Plus, by all accounts hes a complete asshole on and off court. Lebrons just an egomaniac.

          • Curt Hays

            Eh, Kobe isn’t old school, he’s mid school. He’s just a copy of Jordan, except as crappy as Jordan is to people, Kobe is way worse. I don’t respect Kobe as a person.

            I don’t fear Kobe beating me at basketball because I disrespect him enough to not care. I’m indifferent to Kobe. I’d love to have Roger Clemens or Greg Maddux strike me out. Let me see how the best does it. Larry Bird, I’d try to beat him in a game of HORSE for weeks if he’d let me. But I wouldn’t even pick up the ball if Kobe was in the gym.

  • art

    LBJ is a force and capable of domination every game he plays. The opposition must have a loaded roster in order to take him down (PP, KG, and friends). Not easy to do. Golden State may have enough but maybe not. What’s interesting is how good a team becomes once LBJ joins, and how bad it becomes once LBJ leaves. You have to tip your cap to the guy, even us green-blooded folks.

  • thedude

    I’m by no means a Lebron fan, but I do think it’s possible to both respect him and be a fan of the Celtics. That being said, a lot of your arguments work both ways. So Lebron had to team up with better players, big deal, he’s not only competing with 3 times the number of teams, but also a league that’s got a lot more talent than it did 50 years ago. I don’t want to take anything away from Russel’s teams, they’ll always be the greatest winners in the history of sports, but I think it’s kind of petty to discredit what he’s done. I don’t care if you’re teammates with Superman and the Hulk, grinding through 5 seasons and reaching the finals has got to be a really difficult feat, and when you reach it that many times in a row, it’s got stop being considered a coincident at some point. Secondly, while it’s fair to wonder how injuries to the Hawks changed the tide of the series, wouldn’t it be more fair to also take into consideration the injuries to the Cavaliers as well? Having Love, Varejao, and a healthy Irving could have made this series even more lopsided. I apologize, I don’t mean to be a Lebron supporter/apologist, and even though his smug attitude bothers me and I couldn’t care less if he wins or loses, it’s hard not to appreciate a transcendent player changing the history of the game.

    • bill_nair

      Funny how hes still being ripped for having 2 all stars to get him to 4 finals, despite making it on his own twice now in his career.

      Also injuries didn’t rob the Hawks. The Hawks rolled over and died after game 1. That was an absolutely pathetic 4 game showing. We played them harder in the first round.

      • Curt Hays

        Not to mention that Bird had 6 HOFers on his team in ’86. And at least 2 of them every year.

  • Paul

    I agree with your point about Twitter Doctors for the most part except the part where you cite going to the Celtics doctors for your shoulder because you know you’d be in good hands. If anything, that’s exactly what is wrong with the “team doctor” concept. Those people PAY the Celtics to be their team doctor specifically because fans like you would choose to go to them over someone else just because they treat the Celtics. Considering that the team chooses the team doctor and not the players, who’s interest do you think they have in mind when it comes to player injuries: the player or the team?

  • Redunkulous

    I’m not hating on Lebron, even though I’m not a fan. But the Eastern conference is still weak, even if the Hawks won 60 games. I’m hating on the Bulls and the Hawks for not making this Cavs team sweat. Win 3 games at least, force a game 7. Lebron teams have such an easy walk to the Finals apart from the 7 game ECF series in ’13 and ’12

    • dk

      agree 100% thats exactly what i said the other day and got shouted down.

      • Redunkulous

        Playoffs need to be the top 16 teams regardless of conference. No division leader home court advantage, just tie breakers. I wanted to see the Heat/Cavaliers go up against some of the top dogs out West

        • Curt Hays

          Do you realize that, if they’d done that this year, OKC is the only team in the league that would have made it? They’d have bumped Charlotte, but that’s it.

          • Redunkulous

            Do you mean that Boston and Brooklyn would have been bumped? With Oklahoma and Phoenix making it?

          • Curt Hays

            Maybe I’m wrong. I didn’t think Phoenix would’ve bumped Boston.

          • Redunkulous

            Yeah just Brooklyn, I almost thought Phoenix won more than Boston

          • Curt Hays

            I’M RIGHT, YOU’RE WRONG!

            Haha, just kidding, man. I don’t disagree with you as far as fairness goes, but, the way I see it, having the conferences helps foster rivalries. (We only have a rivalry with LA because both teams met so many times in the Finals.) I love that there’s a high chance that we’ll see Cleveland in the Playoffs again next year. The division championships, I think, help foster more localized rivalries, but I’m not sure that’s really relevant now that we have the internet and can watch every game.

  • swissflix

    James Young! If he doesn’t get some burn next season, i wonder what Danny’s plans were with him longterm wise. Dude just has to turn into a fine player!

  • zippittyay

    I propose a new rule in the NBA. If you complain about a call, foul or lack thereof and the replay clearly shows you are full of malarkey, complaining player should be fined 10% of his salary for that particular game. Fines would range from about 1K to 20K or more for the pampered ones.

  • http://www.andrewhager.net Andrew Hager

    It’s worse than you think! A friend just pointed this out to me – Lebron isn’t the only one joining the list of players to make it to 5 consecutive finals – add James Jones as well!

  • GoKingsGoCeltsGoTigersGoNiners

    I’m sorry, but the bulls were ridiculously close to taking the cavs out. Why thibs let pau rest in game 4 is the reason he’s unemployed right now. If you don’t think the league is tilted towards Lebron, look no further than Horford & Howard. Its a joke. Had any of the incidents below happened to lebron’s team, those players would be booted for days:

    • GoKingsGoCeltsGoTigersGoNiners

      The league has a week to review Howard’s second head hack and Ariza’s UFC-style head kick. The likelihood is that there will be no added suspension or fines etc. Why would they want to set a precedent for the cavs going into the finals? Its going to be a bloody finals is all I can say.

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