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How Ainge could build the Celtics this offseason

Alex Kungu December 22, 2014 Celtics News 55 Comments

Danny-AingeAfter the Rajon Rondo trade most fans are expecting the Celtics to become the bottom feeders on the Sixers and Jazz level. However, I beg to differ. Not only are the Celtics still a pretty talented bunch, but in this weak conference they are still very in on a playoff spot, potentially even 7th seed. If this ends up being the case, Boston would get the experience it needs to help boost the morale of the city, and its young players while making a name for itself around the league, even if it does turn into an early exit.

If you remember a few years back, in the big 3 era, when David West was a FA he was recruited hard by the Celtics organization including Pierce and KG, but he ultimately picked the Pacers. When asked why he chose the Pacers over Boston he said it was because they were an up and coming team, and he wanted to be part of that process. Those same Pacers were beat in five games by the Bulls in the first round, fighting toe-to-toe with them until that final game. Those Pacers were 37-45 and finished as the 8th seed in the East, they were 13-28 on the road, but yet David West chose them over the 56-26 Boston Celtics. Players recognize potential, and by making it to the postseason the Celtics could show just that to a potential free agent.

With the offseason set to be a big one for the Celtics, they will have more cap space then they have ever had in the Ainge era, a stockpile of draft picks (including 4 in the first round in 2016), and a hefty trade exception that could be used in a variety of ways. Let’s talk about how Ainge could build his roster through Free Agency, and the Draft. Let’s take a look at the market first.

Free Agency

First thing is first, do not make anymore trades till the end of the season! I know after the Rondo trade most people are anxious to just strip it all down, and start over, but that is not the way to go. Making the playoffs are important when attracting free agents as I previously stated, Jeff Green, Brandon Bass, Marcus Thorton, Brandan Wright, and Evan Turner will all play a role in helping us get there. Second, the market is a cold world, we traded our best asset, and came away with two role players and draft pick, what do you really think your going to get for role players – more picks and expiring contracts? We already have that. If Ainge is smart he’ll allow the team to stay the course for the year. With Jeff Green likely to opt out of his contract and Thorton, Wright, Bass, Crowder, all with deals that expire at the end of the year, you’re looking at roughly 30 million dollars off the books next year.

ButlerThe most realistic free agents we can get are Kwahii Leonard and Jimmy Butler. I focus specifically on Butler because he’s 25, scoring 21.9 ppg along with 3.3 apg, and 6.0 rpg and he defends like crazy. Butler is someone who you could build a team with, and the Bulls know this, but they also owe just over 57 million in contracts  – without counting Kirk Hinrich who has a player option, or Aaron Brooks and Mike Dunleavy who are both in the last years of their contracts. Chicago still can offer Butler the max contract (in the 4 year, $70 million range) he deserves, but it would most likely come at the cost of the necessary rotation pieces and depth (Hello, Derrick Rose).

The Celtics could approach this in two ways, they can recruit Butler hard, point to their youth movement, how he would be the main part of the team, how they’re the up-and-coming team that just made the playoffs and are looking for that one final piece to make them true contenders. Ainge could point to how we’re not in a division with Cleveland so the chances of winning the division and getting at least the first round of home-court are very possible, and how he, Smart, and Bradley could form one of the best defensive trios the league has ever seen.

We would then throw max money at him, and hope he accepts. If he does we could wait and see if Chicago matches, or talk to Chicago and offer them something in a sign-and-trade. I think the best deal we could offer them is two of our four 1st round picks in the 2016 draft, most likely ours and Brooklyn because they’ll likely be the best ones, along with Phil Pressey and James Young. Pressey would be the perfect backup to Rose, his pass-first, he plays gritty defense, and his on a cheap contract. With James Young, we preach the undeniable offensive game, and leave it to Thibs to develop his game that clearly has a lot of potential. Then with the two first rounders you give the Bulls a chance to continue to build their team while contending, something a lot of contenders don’t have the luxury of doing. Wether they agree or not would still be up for grabs, but chances are they say yes because they would be acquiring Young, cheap talent, along with valuable first round picks that they themselves could package or use to continue to build. So after some time Butler comes to Boston, but even then we still would need some pieces, specifically a rim protecting center, that’s where June comes in.

2015 NBA Draft

As it stands today the Celtics would own the 10th pick in the draft, and the 24th pick in the draft. To keep things simple, let’s just assume that this stays the same all the way till June. According to NBA Draft Net the Celtics would take Montrezel Harrell with the 10th pick, and Willey Cauley-Stein would go 11th to the Nuggets. Based on needs, I think the Celtics would most likely draft Willey-Cauley Stein, and finally grab their young, tall, rim-protecting center that they’ve been praying for since Perkins left.

Sophomore guard Norman Powell leaps over redshirt senior guard Larry Drew II on a dunk.With the second pick in the first I would look for a guy who could come off the bench and really give you a spark on both ends of the floor – Norman Powell. Powell is a 6-4 shooting guard from UCLA with a 6’11 wingspan. He’s an excellent perimeter defender and on the offensive end he uses his athleticism and strength to attack the rim, and has ability to finish through contact. His shot has been a bit inconsistent during his years, but so far this season he’s shooting 46.7% from the three, and averaging 17.7 points per game. Powell has the type of play style that fits excellent into Brad Stevens system, and he’ll compliment the defensive identity that Smart,Bradley, and Butler would bring to the table.

Finally with our only 2nd round pick, I would select Kentucky combo guard Andrew Harrison. Believe it or not, both twins have a bad rap around the scouting community and are seen as enigma’s because of the perception that they show bad attitudes on the court. However, just based on pure skill I don’t think there’s anyway we pass him up. At 6-6 with a big body, Harrison is able to get to the lane and draw fouls frequently. He utilizes the pick and roll very well and though his jump shot is mediocre his creativity to get to the rim, and ability to knock in free throws can off-set some of that. Also keep in mind that Kentucky is a powerhouse college team that will most likely be in the championship for the second straight year, he will be apart of both those teams, and that type of big game experience is something that you look for in young players. He’s not your typical pass-first point guard, and does have the tendency to dribble a little too much, but having faith in Stevens, I believe that he can help alleviate that. By drafting Harrison you ensure that after the 2015-2016 season is up, you have a reliable option at your backup point position. By then Harrison would have some NBA experience, and be ready to lead the second unit when called on.

Final Product

After a successful wheeling and dealing by Danny Ainge the 2015-2016 Celtics roster would look like this:

Point Guards: Marcus Smart, Jameer Nelson, Andrew Harrison

Shooting Guards: Avery Bradley, Norman Powell

Small Forwards: Jimmy Butler, Evan Turner, Gerald Wallace, (Jae Crowder)

Power Forwards: Jared Sullinger, Kelly Olynyk

Centers: Willey-Cauley Stein, Tyler Zeller

As you can see, it’s not a full roster and we would have three spots left to fill. I would bring back Jae Crowder because he’s young, he plays defense, and the 3 and D potential is something that you want to have on your bench. With the remaining two spots I would just bring on the strongest training camp invites, and have them go back and forth between Maine and with the team along with Andrew Harrison. So at the end of the day, if cards are played right the Celtics could very well become a top four seed in the East. It will just need patience, poise, a playoff run this year, and one helluva a recruitment pitch.

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  • bill_nair

    I like the optimism but I disagree with alot in this post. But it is a good one ill give you that. One issue, how do we make the playoffs and draft WCS at 11?

    • eddysamson

      Because the East sucks and its based on overall record?

      • bill_nair

        If we make the playoffs the best pick we can get is the 15th, so even than that doesn’t make sense.

        • chuckmckenney

          He’s saying the C’s have a shot at the 7th seed, but currently stand in the 10th spot. There’s a lot of What If in this article.

          • bill_nair

            …I think im more confused now o_0

          • Sean McLaughlin

            Exactly what I was thinking. Too many what ifs…

  • zippittyay

    I like the optimism.. I still think we should target a top tier player who is ready to bail on a crappy team before the trade deadline.

  • Don J

    Nice Article..Great Points! A guy like Butler might be their best FA option in the summer if they want to pony up a Max Deal. At least with him at the 3 rather than Green he plays defense while also scoring and he fits in with the age group. Sounds too good to work out.

  • eddysamson

    Eh I don’t like it. Butler is good this year, but its a contract year. Last year he had the same minutes and his stats were T E R R I B L E. Believe me. I kept wanting to use him in fantasy or fanduel dailies because he was playing like 37+ mins a game…while averaging like 13 points and hardly any stats in the box.

    Plus I thought he was more of a 2 than a 3. We already have James Young, I’d rather watch him develop into a Klay Thompson type than just trade him before he gets a chance with us. We’ve wanted a knock down shooter since Ray left…

    • Dave

      He’s one of the best 2 way players in the league. Anytime you have a guy that you’re confident in sticking on Lebron and other elite wings in the league he’s a keeper. His offense has always been the main knack on his game. He’s had nice offensive outbursts the past few years in the playoffs but now it’s on full display.

      I don’t think he be interested in coming here anyways, he’s either gonna stay in Chicago or sign with another contender. To think we could have gotten him in the draft:

      Doc on Jimmy Butler:

      “I loved him. You know, his whole story” Rivers said before Monday’s loss to the Bulls. “… I thought he was a tough kid. As the draft was coming, I really liked him, especially where we were picking with the Celtics. I thought he’d be a great Celtic at that time.”

      http://www.foxsports.com/west/story/bulls-jimmy-butler-is-playing-himself-into-max-contract-territory-111814

      • eddysamson

        Bass is a dude who you can stick on your LeBrons and Carmelos and feel pretty good about, we’ve never considered him a keeper. Or Green who at times has solid D on those types of guys.

        • Dave

          Bass would be if we were still contenders. Plus Bass was best at defending them when they were trying to attack in the post, not so much in the perimeter. Like you said, Green “at times” not on a consistent basis.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          We don’t seem to consider anyone a keeper. That’s kinda the problem I see. We’re sure we’re building assets, but that seems to be the only gameplan right now.

          • Dave

            I always thought if you have an established core/foundation they’re keepers, everyone else can be moved.

            He might be trying to pull another 07 offseason but he might be reaching in terms of that in today’s NBA. There’s not another KG & Ray Allen that are in the last 2 years of their prime ready to be shipped out. Also, there’s not many prime stars now a days that are willing to sacrifice for the betterment of the team once they get shipped.

            So what we got during that time was really special and still makes me all fuzzy inside. Just a shame we couldn’t add enough depth to extend their run and solidify PP as a career Celtic.

            Danny is still better than a lot of GM’s out there though, Dumars made Detroit a mess the last few years. Hopefully within the next few years we’ll see improvements.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            I understand where you’re coming from, and im not saying he’s the WORST GM out there, but most of y’all regulars know my stance on this by now. It’s not so much that I think he’s making bad business decisions, it’s more that I feel he’s tarnished the Celtics name with the shady business man type dealing that I wish wasn’t part of the NBA. And if we indeed are tanking (even for one year) I find that totally unethical and against the great traditions that make me proud to be a Celtics fan. I’m supporting the troops and will continue to watch each and every game, just not fond of the administration’s tactics.

          • Dave

            I’m not big on tanking either, or trading away our beloved core. For me I wouldn’t have mind if he ran PP and KG to the ground if he kept them. We would have been the ones playing Miami in the 2nd round last year and would have definitely faired better than that Nets team did.

            Most people don’t want to be stuck in mediocrity and yea the assets might turn into something good but I would have loved to see those guys go down fighting in green.

            It would have sent a message to the rest of the league on how much trust and respect we have in our core and that they represent our team proudly. Anyways that’s my 2 cents.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            So true! I was all for that myself, however glad that at least if we DID have to trade em, he got the best haul I think he could possibly get for them, unlike Rondo. As an added bonus, it would’ve shown players (you know, the free agents that never wanna come here) how much our organization values and rewards players that produce for them on a high level. I guess we’re thinking with our hearts and not like business men, but (at the risk of sounding like a broken record) when art and entertainment becomes nothing but a business, the quality indeed suffers greatly.

          • Dave

            Couldn’t have said it better myself. I’ve always been interested in the business side of things but more so to build around not tear apart.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            I was all for draft reform when it came up a couple of months ago… I really hope the NBA considers it.

    • bill_nair

      Ya im not sure Butlers production can be kept up. If he can keep getting to the line at the rate he is I think he’ll be all set but I dont see how he’d fare on this team. Hes a player who relies on his shots being assisted on rather than beating his man off the dribble. This team needs someone who can create their own shot.

    • wil

      the price i think is too high if we are gonna give up brooklyns pick. But look at this way, the way jimmy butlers playing right now, only Harden is a better SG. if he can keep doing it the whole season and the playoffs then its worth acquiring him.

      He is a huge upgrade over AB too.

  • Rick Rice

    Sullinger to Detroit for Greg Monroe (if Monroe agrees to sign extension)

    • bill_nair

      They just waived Smith. I think the plan is to keep Monroe now. Plus hes not getting traded no matter what.

  • KGino

    So jimmy butler warrants two first round picks AND a first round pick from last year? (Young). Essentially 3 first rounders for jimmy butler, and we only get one for rondo?? I don’t think that adds up at all

    • wil

      as much as we love Rondo. Their production doesnt really compare. 22pts 6rbs 3 assists. 48%fg 35% threes. All that while playing excellent defense.

      25 year old like that standing out in a really talented team. I dont think Bulls will let him go. I think theyd let go of rose first before Butler.

      • KGino

        Sweet wil, you can look up a players current stats. But please tell me at what point I said rondo and butlers production was the same? The point was butler doesn’t warrant two of our best picks plus and unproven rookie with tons of offensive potential. And while you were at it, you might have wanted to check his stats from last year, under 40% from the field, 28% from 3, all inAbout the same amount of minutes. Not to mention this is a contract year for him. If you’d give 3 first rounders for a player who’s had one good year in his contract year you’d make a shotty GM

        • wil

          yep, i probably wouldnt give up our best first rounders like the article said. But id still give up 2 late first rounders for the kid. Id give them ABs contract. And add young as a sweetener if it doesnt get done.

          Young is a great shooter but i wouldnt tag him as player with tons of offensive potential. The kid cant finish and get anywhere near the paint.

          If jimmy can sustain his production for the whole season then its worth the risk. He is a grinder. You know he works hard and plays very aggressive.

          Even Jeff green hasn’t averaged 20 points once in his career. Point is players like butler who is playing like an all star at both ends of the floor doesnt come around often.

  • Frank Aziza

    We need a shooting guard that can shoot. Bradley sucks

  • Michael Merriam

    I’m not sure it matters that we make playoffs, but I’m rooting for it. C’s have immense potential in both frontcourt and backcourt. Playoffs would be great experience for Smart and Olynyk, but they’ll continue to develop no matter what.

    I love how Olynyk is knocking down shots AND getting to the rim right now. Yeah he’s still awkward, but he’s reliable. Seeing him against better defense will tell a lot.

    Smart just kinda goes full steam ahead right now into 3 defenders, but once things slow down a bit for him it should be a whole new world. I love his toughness, but a little worried about his court vision. What do others think?

    The lack of a clear leader is a problem that needs to be solved. Stevens may be wise to wait until February to pick a captain, but even if Green and Bradley are still here, we don’t really hear much from those guys. I think an effective NBA captain needs to be a vocal leader, not the quiet lead-by-example type. My vote is for Sully. He has the personality and there’s no question in my mind he has playoff mentality. He’s like all the good things of Big Baby, with less Big, less crazy, and zero Baby. He’s fearless in the post and improving on D. He’s got swagger, game, and pedigree.

    Would love to acquire Butler as a FA. Not sure we’d want to spend our best 2016 picks AND James Young to get him in SnT. Young and the Cleveland or Dallas pick sure, or the two best picks and no Young.

    • Curt Hays

      I like your thought process. I expect Kelly to grow up quickly and be the next leader.

      • Sean McLaughlin

        Kelly and Sully for co-captains! (don’t think people give enough credit to Sully’s potential)

        • Curt Hays

          Sully is too much of an introvert right now. Rondo was too much of an introvert two seasons ago. Kelly is the only one putting this team on his shoulders right now. I think he has higher potential than anyone we’ve had since Larry Bird. I’m not comparing myself to Jesus, but I’m going to get crucified for that.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            Decent point, Swaggy C. :-P I’ll give ya till the end of the year before I start pounding the nails in your wrist on that one, because he HAS made a complete 180 from last year. I just see Sully as a nose to the grindstone type player that will more stand the test of time from a consistent standpoint, though. Like a potential solid double-double player you can count on every night. But IF Kelly keeps up this newly found intensity and production, I may just have to eat my words. I already have to a point, graduating from an Olynyk-hater to a casual admirer… Just not getting too excited about him quite yet.

          • Curt Hays

            Sully APPEARS to have fallen off. His numbers haven’t, but his intangibles don’t seem to be there right now. He better get it back soon. He was a leader, and it’s like he’s just getting beaten down all the time. I still think he’s too short. At this point, I’d rather keep Bass if it wasn’t for the contractual differences. I hate saying that, but Sully was shining and now he’s “eh”.

            I’ll hopefully regret those words very soon.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            I think it’s just a slump, but we shall see.

          • Curt Hays

            He still has really good stats. He just seems to lack that presence he had before.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            Agreed… I’m willing to be patient with him, though, cuz I like his moxie.

  • Curt Hays

    These types of posts are helpful because they give us a starting point for discussion. It isn’t REALLY helpful unless Danny reads this blog, but for us fans it is a good starting point.

    We need Al Jefferson and Larry Sanders!

    • Sean McLaughlin

      Agreed on Big Al and Larry… A nice pass-first point guard would be a nice addition too… We haven’t had one of those in like…. days! :-P

      • Curt Hays

        Too soon.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          I agree…

        • Dave

          Alright boys, time to go on a feel trip.

          • Curt Hays

            No permission slips required.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            Let us grieve! lol

      • forever_green

        It hurts!

      • Mike C

        Perfect! Mark Cuban is the ‘Luckiest’ S.O.B. on the planet. I Hate him!

        • Sean McLaughlin

          Yeah I heard he picked up a decent one.

    • wil

      Getting Dragic and Big Al would be awesome.

  • Alex Kungu

    Hey guys thanks for all the reads and comments. One thing i forgot to address is that if we make the playoffs are draft order will obviously change most likely somewhere between 15-18. If that was the case, if we kept are pick position the Center options would be Frank Kaminsky, Myles Turner (if he comes out, but his pretty raw), Kristaps Porzingis, and Dakari Johnson. With Cauley-Stein’s improved play he will most likley be a top 5 pick so getting him would be unrealistic unless he was to fall and we trade up which with our assets is possible. However, even if we don’t these draft picks would still be great fits, and if we choose to go the market guys like Asik, Robin Lopez, Enes Kanter, and Kendrick Perkins are all options. I know they aren’t the sexiest names guys, but they don’t have to be ,like John said in his radio show last night, when we won with Perkins he wasn’t a top tier Center, but he knew his role and played it well. But thanks again for the reads guys! keep the convo up!

  • Sean

    I like any plan that gets us back into being contenders. I’m not all the way up on Butlers game but from what I’ve seen and heard about he’s a stud. However, if Ainge gives up 2 1sts for him after what he just got for Rondo I’m gonna buy one of those #GreenLivesMatter shirts

  • wil

    theres alot of ways Ainge can utilize our assets. Cap space, Trade exception, Multiple Picks, Multiple impact players that can be used for a sign and trade.

    Wallace is also an expiring contract next season. The only thing i see that is gonna hold us back a bit in our progress is Avery. He doesnt have much potential and is playing terrible right now.

  • Jose Silva

    Trade for Joe Johnson in the right situation he could thrive with us and lead our offense. I
    think we could get him for cheap (despite his hefty contract) and be fighting for the playoffs next year with Iso Joe

  • Coach A. Johnson

    If Danny allows Green to walk if he opts out, I would to a good player on a sorry team that is putting up numbers……..Tobias Harris of Orlando. Before I look at Jimmy Butler, Tobias is the same size as Green and will keep our size consistent. Butler is actually more of a SG at only 6-6. But I hope Green opts out then resigns for about 14per/3seasons. That would be an increase over the 9.2 he gets now. Actually I would go for him regardless.

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