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Your Morning Dump…Where the C’s should still be looking at non-Rondo trades

Chris Jones September 5, 2014 The Morning Dump 19 Comments

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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

There’s also a timeline restriction on Marcus Thornton and Tyler Zeller.  Either one can be sent out in a trade by themselves at any time.  However, if the Celtics wish to package them in a trade, they’ll have to wait until Sept. 10th (two months after the trade from the Nets was made official) to do so.

Before we get fired up for fireworks it is worth noting that the Celtics were paid a first rounder just to take Thornton’s salary.  That salary could be used for matching up numbers in a larger trade package or it might just be an expiring contract that the Celtics allow to expire after the season.

Still, even if the Celtics don’t make a larger deal, there’s a better than good chance that they’ll pull of some kind of small, cleaning-up-the-books deal as camp approaches.

CelticsBlog - Still a chance for Celtics trades or transactions

I find myself messing with ESPN’s trade machine at least once a day, which is where I first realized Thornton was only able to be sent out alone until September 10th. With that being only five days away, and with the Celtics already deep enough at shooting guard, I’d expect Ainge to at least kick the tires on a Marcus Thornton-plus-others swap. One theory that had come to mind is a straight up swap for Kendrick Perkins, which of course wouldn’t have required us waiting. OKC’s been interested in dumping him, and there were even talks of amnesty-ing him when that was an option. For us, we wouldn’t be getting the same Kendrick Perkins we know and love — but it’d be taking a good step in appealing to Rondo’s interest if there isn’t a star available this season. Plus with Perk coming off the bench, we’d still have time to develop Zeller and give Faverani some minutes too.

Of course talent-wise, there’s probably a far better deal out there. Thornton’s a known sparkplug and his contract is expiring. I could see him being an interesting piece for Detroit, as Van Gundy tries to re-create his Orlando offense of a star center surrounded by three-point shooters. Maybe Thornton Jeff Green, and a pick. for a Greg Monroe sign and trade? I have a feeling Detroit fans would hate that scenario, but with Monroe being able to veto any trade after he accepts his qualifying offer on the rookie deal, the Pistons may not hold much leverage in S&T negotiations.

Related Links – Reasons to be thinking about Thornton

 

Page 2: KG takes in some tennis

 

Doesn’t look like he’s in too much of a rush to get back to Brooklyn (Can’t blame him). Maybe he’ll retire and join Stevens’ staff as a defensive/intensity specialist.

The rest of the links:

Grantland – B.S Report: Zach Lowe and Joe House | Wingspan and a Prayer: Trying to Decipher the Massive Promise of Utah’s Rudy Gobert

CelticsBlog – High Five with Matt Moore of CBS Sports

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  • bill_nair

    Of course KG’s has a good looking wife. The man can do no wrong.
    I really hope Bass or Thornton can be moved before the season. I dont think Bass, Thornton or Wallace should see many minutes this year. A Perk for Thornton swap would be nice just because we get a competent C. Its sad Perkins today is still probably better than nay center we’ve had since he left. Not counting KG.

    • Dave

      Even more sad thinking we could have had DeAndre Jordan over J.R. Giddens and could have got Miles Plumlee instead of Fab Melo

      • bill_nair

        Ya but I cant fault Danny for missing on those two. No one thought much of Miles before the draft and im not going to declare him anything after one solid season. I always liked his brother more and was dissapointed watching him learn from KG. Deandre over JR is less defendable but at the time was understandable when trying to have youthful wing depth on an aging team.

        Too think I actually wanted Fab. Such a waste of height and size.

        • Dave

          Danny was drafting out of need so yea you can’t fault him in that sense but probably should have went for potential. We also needed a backup center for perk so DJ would have been a low risk high reward type player like Sully. It’s not every day you get a 7 footer that can jump out of the builing like him.

          Miles could have learned under KG as well, as of right now Miles is a bit more polished than his brother granted he has a bit more experience.

          Fab was an absolute waste, he didn’t contribute much at the college level and nothing at the NBA level. In terms of wing depth after we won in 08 I would have let House walk or re-sign him for the Vet minimum if he wanted to stick around and re-sign TA with his bird rights, and throw the MLE at Pietrus who was basically a younger Posey, not quite the defender that he is but still very good during that time.

          • wil

            easy to say these things in hindsight.

          • Dave

            well yea i’m just saying, and they’re realistic alternatives that “could” have happened, i’m sure most of us would have wanted to see our Big 3 go out in a better way than they did especially with a few extra banners hanging up there

          • wil

            it was possible. but theres 30 teams in the nba that can say they shouldve picked this guy and not that guy.

            Was possible but not realistic.

          • Dave

            i’m just saying for us, i don’t really give a damn about other teams, DJ and Miles were still on board during their respective drafts, TA was still cheap after we re-siged him in 08 especially with his low stock after blowing out his leg the year before and being mostly a benchwarmer during the championship year, and Pietrus was getting paid the MLE in Orlando, something we could have offered him as well so i don’t see how none of this is un-realistic

          • wil

            If you dont see how unrealistic always getting the best player available in the draft is then thats the problem of your point of view.

            I am just saying, there’s no point in saying we shouldve drafted this guy and not that guy. We shouldve signed this guy.

          • Dave

            well yea you can’t change reality, i’m just saying it could have and could have been awesome, if you feel you have to nitpick at everything I say and call me out on it then go right ahead

  • CFH

    I don’t care if Perk never really recovered from that knee injury and the NBA no longer needs what skills he has left because there aren’t many/any dominant offensive centers to be stopped. (Remember when it was a big deal that Perk could guard Dwight Howard one on one? Weird.)

    I want him back strictly for sentimental and attitude value. With an excess of guards to ship out and this being a rebuilding year, his bloated salary doesn’t matter. So it wouldn’t be an entirely bad idea. Teach those young kids how to scowl at the enemy, Perk!

    • bill_nair

      Even though Perk isnt what he was in 2008, he’d still be better than any Center we have on this roster. Thats pretty sad.

    • Dave

      That and a little some of this would suffice as well, very KGesque

  • Rick Rice

    I like that trade for Monroe idea! Hope the Celts are at least thinking about that one!!

    • bill_nair

      Thats actually one of the few trade scenarios where I wouldnt mind bringing Monroe in.

  • eddysamson

    I love the idea of getting Perk because then we can even slide Olynyk over to the 4 (not just Sully) to see what damage he can really do.

  • zippittyay

    Why is that couple in front of KG wearing their lanyards around their ears? Is that a NYC thing?

  • Richard Jensen

    “Doesn’t look like he’s in too much of a rush to get back to Brooklyn”

    Arthur Ashe is only like a half an hour from Brooklyn.

  • swissflix

    woah, wait with Zeller. Really want to see this kid in green. I think he was not used properly in his second year. Just like Bennett btw.