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Another Boston Celtics starter has called out the team’s lack of a set rotation. After falling Monday night to the Detroit Pistons, Isaiah Thomas said a lack of regular substitution patterns could be contributing to the team’s inconsistent play.

“I’m not going to blame just one thing,” he said after scoring 22 points in the 99-94 loss. “But we still don’t really have a rotation. I mean a set rotation.” […]

When asked exactly what he wants from the rotation, the guard said, “I don’t know. A set one, I think, guys know when they’re coming in or coming out. For the most part I know my minutes. But it’s hard for some guys. But as a professional you have to be ready. You can’t put that on coach.”

MassLiveIsaiah Thomas: Boston Celtics ‘still don’t really have a rotation’

“We’ll see moving forward how permanent this is,” Lee said Wednesday night after his second straight DNP-CD resulted in a 99-94 loss to the Detroit Pistons. “Obviously I’m very confident I can help a team win. I’d love for that to be the Boston Celtics. So no, I haven’t spoken about that. I haven’t really thought about that yet. Right now it’s about continuing to be ready, and if that was talked about it would be between my agent, the Celtics and other teams.”

MassLiveDavid Lee responds to benching, says he hasn’t considered asking Boston Celtics for a trade

After three disturbing losses in four games, the comments coming from the Celtics aren’t sounding very positive. And for a young team that relies more than most on playing together with effort, their words are a bit discouraging.

Which comes first, a set rotation or consistent individual play? Although Thomas said “you can’t put that on coach,” who else is he blaming, really? Rotations are Stevens’ call, and he has tinkered with the lineups throughout the season. But what choice has he had? Obviously, if seven or eight players stood out every game, they would earn consistent minutes, and the rotation would be decided naturally. That hasn’t happened, so the adjustments have continued out of necessity, not just with distribution of minutes but even with the starting lineup.

Isaiah’s comments sound like simple frustration, especially when he admits he doesn’t know exactly what he’s asking for. Actually, Stevens has recently trimmed the rotation by not using a couple of players in each of the past two games. A few more nights like that and perhaps IT will be satisfied. But on the flip side, Lee’s “stay ready” attitude could change if he continues to rack up DNP-CDs.

This is a new type of challenge for Stevens. He can’t satisfy everyone, so it will be interesting to see how he handles it. Maybe Danny Ainge will help him out and not wait for Lee to request a trade.

Related: CSNNELee hasn’t requested trade despite diminishing role | GlobeCeltics frustrated by lack of set rotation | ESPN BostonDavid Lee on being out of Boston’s rotation: ‘I disagree with it’

On Page 2: The ’86 Celtics had the best starting five ever

Now here today, another 30 years later, we begin a celebration of the last and perhaps finest of Auerbach’s championship squads: The 1986 Celtics. A team considered by many to be the greatest of all time. A team that won 67 games, and went an all-time best 40-1 at home. A team that posted winning streaks of 8, 9, 13 and 14 games. A team that only dropped one game in the Eastern Conference playoff bracket on its way to knocking off the Rockets in six for yet another Larry O’Brien Trophy. But while you can argue about their place in NBA or even Celtics history, the 1986 team was the perfect example of Red Auerbach’s relentless innovation and mastery of basketball, business, life and the human condition. The starting five alone featured four Hall of Famers, and while amassing that talent in general was its own extraordinary accomplishment, the way that Red did it defied convention, lacked precedent and will never ever be replicated.

CSNNEAuerbach’s genius never more evident than in 1986

The Celtics’ TV outlet, CSNNE, last night began a series marking the 30th anniversary of Boston’s 16th NBA championship. Video segments will air during pregame shows (last night’s first installment can also be viewed on the page linked above).

There’s no doubt in my mind that Larry Bird, Robert Parish, Kevin McHale, Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge were the greatest the starting five of all-time. How all five were acquired by Red Auerbach illustrated his genius as a general manager:

  • Drafted Bird as a junior eligible, after teams like the Knicks and Bird’s own home state Indiana Pacers unwisely passed him up.
  • Traded two draft picks (and no players) for Parish and the draft choice that became McHale.
  • Traded a back-up center (Rick Robey) for DJ.
  • Drafted Ainge in the second round, even though he was already playing baseball for the Toronto Blue Jays, and won a court case to free Danny from his contract after he decided to give up the diamond.

With a bench led by Hall of Famer Bill Walton, two-time All-Star Scott Wedman, and knockdown shooter Jerry Sichting, the ’86 Cs were not only unbeatable, they were a joy to watch. I miss those days.

Related: CSNNEScalabrine: Was ’86 Celtics starting five best in NBA history?

And, finally: Smart supports mentoring

January is National Mentoring Month, and Marcus Smart is in the spotlight as the NBA teams up with MENTOR: The National Mentoring Partnership for an initiative called “In Real Life.” It’s a public awareness campaign about the benefits of mentoring, supported by the league, the players’ association and the retired players’ association.

In the video above, Smart speaks about his brother’s death from cancer at an early age, and how his coach at (coincidentally named) Marcus High School helped him deal with that loss.

Congratulations to Marcus for using his experiences to pay it forward and help others.

The Rest of the Links:

CBS BostonGorman: Celtics Will Eventually Be Marcus Smart’s Team

CSNNECeltics crumble in fourth quarter, lose 99-94 to Pistons | Stars, studs and duds: Rough night shooting for Thomas | Celtics hope Bradley (hip) is able to play Sunday

HeraldCeltics miss the mark in loss to Pistons

MassLive – Boston Celtics analysis: Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder frustrated after another winnable game slips away | Isaiah Thomas comes to life late, but Boston Celtics offense falls apart during 99-94 loss to Detroit Pistons | Isaiah Thomas: Tried to recruit Kevin Love; now worried more about supporters than doubters

ESPN BostonAvery Bradley ‘sick’ of sitting on sidelines, targets Sunday return

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  • chuckmckenney

    Scott Wedman was a 2 time all-star???

    • Curt Hays

      I had to look it up too. 76 & 80

    • Curt Hays

      From Wikipedia:

      ” During his time in Kansas City, Wedman gained the nickname “The Incredible Hulk” because of his extensive sessions in the weight room.”

    • Mike Dynon

      I stand by my reporting!

    • jrleftfoot

      He was toward the end of his career when he came to the Celts, but he still could shoot.

  • Adam Stark

    I understand what both players and coaching staff are getting at. You can’t play everyone 30 minutes a night but if I was a NBA player, I would want to be somwhere I can play that. This is only somthing Danny can solve. We need to trade a two or three for one. Some front court scoring would be nice! Ryan Anderson would be a nice player till the offseason. Maybe somthing like Sully and Jarebko? I don’t know.

    • Curt Hays

      Jerebko has the versatility to fill in for any of 4 positions if there are injuries. I’d keep him. Package up Lee, Sully, and Young for someone else, but idk who.

      Ryan Anderson is a downgrade from Lee. I’d rather have Lee, but if we are trading guys, I don’t even know who we target. Andre Drummond is the only guy I can think of right now because of the nightmares I had last night.

      • Adam Stark

        That’s true. Drummond would be huge but I just can’t see them trading him. I would 100% give up the nets pick for him though, on a long contract. How about Thad Young? Serge Ibaka? Gorgui Dieng?

        • Curt Hays

          Serge would be great, but they aren’t giving him up. Amir is better than Thad.

          I bet we could get Anderson Varejao, but I don’t think he’d be a good fit. Julius Randle would be awesome, but you know he isn’t going anywhere.

          • Adam Stark

            How about Bradley, Sully, Zeller and Dallas pick for Serge?

          • Curt Hays

            Can’t give up Bradley though. Without checking stats, I’d say Bradley and Sully together are worth more than Serge. I like how think though. Maybe Lee, Young, and Sully?

          • Adam Stark

            Ok last one.
            Boston: Serge, Waiters
            OKC: Howard, Terence Jones
            Suns: Lee, Sully, Novak and Dallas pick
            Houston: Morris, Chandler and Boston 2016 1st.

          • jgtwentysix

            Oh c’mon, Amir is better than Thad? Ryan Anderson is a downgrade from Lee? WHAT?!?

        • Sean

          I’d take Dieng or Serge

      • Sean

        Thats the thing though, who would we trade for? How many guys out there would be equal trade + fix the problems the team has. I don’t see that guy or guys yet.

        • Curt Hays

          No clue. That’s why I am not a GM. I can’t even win at fantasy basketball, so who am I to say? 🙂

          • Sean

            It’d be so nice if the C’s were playing decent enough for some of them to have better trade value. Maybe we’ll luck into Simmons.

            I suck too at fantasy basketball, it’s too much to keep up with. Did much better at football this year.

          • Curt Hays

            Man, I had a GREAT lineup one night on Fan Duel. I got 3 notifications that Andrew Wiggins wasn’t playing that night, but I ignored them since I wasn’t playing Wiggins that night. I finally go check the scores, and I’m doing really well. I was looking at winning several hundred bucks…then I saw that Wiggins was on my roster! FML

          • Sean

            The big winners always have the most random rosters lol.

  • Curtis Monroe

    I am so sick of the players leaning on the minutes crutch when they start losing. No one complained about it when they were going good. Now that they are losing, it’s an issue.

    If I were GM, I’d ship the next guy who pops off about minutes to Milwaukee or Phoenix. Got plenty of minutes available there. Do your job and the minutes will take care of themselves. Play like you have lately and you get what you deserve.

    BTW, was there some giant NYE party that the Celtics, Bruins and Patriots all went to. Because they’ve all played like crap since. Might want to give IT a breathalyzer after that Kobe-like 6-20.

    • Finks

      hah, Kobe-like 6-20….

  • NE_Celt

    I am a little disappointed with the amount of bitching that is happening this year. Last year there wasn’t hardly a peep. Maybe that was because they really hadn’t achieved anything yet; now they have had some success and feel like they are underachieving with losses like this, and need someplace to focus their frustration, ie coaches rotations.

    One of the great strengths of this team appeared to be good team atmosphere and a good understanding and trust in their coach.

  • Sean

    Seems like everyone forgot they overachieved last year.

    • RedsLoveChild

      It speaks volumes about the unimpressive talent level on the roster last year when a record of 40-42 was viewed as “overachieving”.

      In the same vein, the fact that this current team actually has a winning record speaks volumes as to the lack of talent and overall weakness of the NBA. There is barely enough talent in today`s NBA to stock 15 teams, forget 30.

      • Sean

        Evan Turner. This guy is a curse.

        I think we just dropped out of 8th after this loss. We deserve better.


    in Stevens defense, its hard to settle on a rotation when players 2 thru 12 (with IT being #1) never offer any overall game making differences in terms of the team either winning or losing. No one 2 thru 12 consistently produces where Stevens says “I gotta play this guy 20+ mins EVERY game”. Regardless of their positions, 2 thru 12 on the C’s each essentially contribute the same “stuff”/the same results (and unfortunately average to below average results). 2 thru 12 are consistently inconsistent and never separate themselves from anyone else on the team. On another note, it is nice to see Smart offering up his time as a mentor. Maybe someone can mentor Marcus and his below 34 FG%. Somebody needs to teach this guy how to shoot.

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