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Celtics will take a flyer on Evan Turner

Chuck - Red's Army July 21, 2014 Celtics News 61 Comments

Well, I’ll be damned. A week ago when Jeff Goodman first reported the Celtics interest in Turner, I didn’t think there was room on the roster for another wing.

While we await specifics on Turner’s salary, we know the Celtics are currently about $2 million over the luxury tax threshold. They can easily slice $7 million by releasing the non-guaranteed deals belonging to Keith Bogans, Chris Johnson and Chris Babb. I was hoping Bogans’ $5 million would come in handy in a bigger deal.

Here’s some reaction from NBA writers:

 

 

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  • Curt Hays

    We might as well pick up the rest of them. Greg Oden, Jared Sullinger, Evan Turner, Mike Conley, and Trey Burke. Why not?

    • Red’s Cigar

      One of those that you listed is not like the others.

      • Curt Hays

        LOL, you’re right. Trey played for Michigan, didn’t he? But he was friends with Sully! OK OK, I’ll fix it.

        • stevemb34

          Somewhere Daequon Cook shed one single tear knowing that he couldn’t even make that most

          • Curt Hays

            Hahaha

  • Thatguy

    I don’t know how to feel about this, so I’ll wait until a trade/he plays until I say something.

    • LA Flake

      Evan Turner is the definition of a low risk/high as hell potential reward guy. He can get his shot any time he wants. He just doesn’t make them a whole lot but maybe he’s working on that. I hope.

      • Curt Hays

        I think Reds Army stole your idea.

  • Ludovico Maggi Padovan

    Strange.Very strange. Rondo or Green away?

    • dontevertreadonme

      hopefully both

  • Jester00

    I just threw up in my mouth

  • KGino

    At least he’s more of a small forward and not a guard. Let’s rehab that trade value. Rondo will prove to be a great commodity in boosting some of our players trade value. Also, bye bye Gerald Wallace’s minutes.

    • dontevertreadonme

      rondo sucks.

      • KGino

        Best passer in the game, real recognize real

  • ThatGuyOverTheOcean

    This basically means we’re not getting Love and we’re paying Turner to help us suck more than last year. Fantastic.

    • Thatguy

      I just wanted to say hi, my fellow thatguy.

    • CFH

      Or that, should offseason Love talks end in a stalemate, Ainge is prepared for a Love trade deadline deal since Flip is known to like Turner. Turner would be one more asset to throw on the pile.

  • Brad P

    Ainge we need more guards, not Turner. What are you doing man?

  • RedwasKing

    Makes perfect sense to me. They are 10 deep now with quality players:

    Rondo 1
    Smart 1/2
    AB 2
    Thorton 2/3
    Turner 2/3
    Green 3/4
    Bass 4
    K.O. 4/5
    Sully 4/5
    Zeller 5

    This is assuming Young needs some time to develop. Pressy is a good, serviceable guard who can fill in. If this team as good chemistry I could see them being a 6-8 seed in the East.

    • Lee in Oregon

      Love your optimistic outlook but 6-8 is about where we’ll be in next years lottery. DA is accumulating some decent pieces, but outside of Rondo, most of our guys don’t start on a seriously contending team. Go C’s!

      • dontevertreadonme

        yeah. celtics still lack someone that even closely resembles a decent big and a legitimate scorer. this team is going to stink the joint out. we haven’t addressed our rebounding woes since Ainge traded perk

        • Curt Hays

          You mean since he let Darko, Shaq, and JO go. Those were the best ever!

      • RedwasKing

        Lee, it’s certainly possible/plausible that you are right. I’m just hoping that maybe this team can be like Phoenix last year or Philly from a couple of years ago with few stars but still very competitive.

    • Curt Hays

      I like this breakdown. It makes us look better than you might think, and look far less likely to trade Rondo.

      You know what else it shows? WE NEED A SF AND A CENTER.

      Geez, Danny! How long do we have to wait?

      • stevemb34

        SF = Green and Turner (and Young may be able to play some there but that’s a projection)

        C = 10mpg of Zeller and… you may have a point cuz we don’t want Sully/Klynyk there.

        • Curt Hays

          We need a name-brand SF. Green and Turner are only going to succeed if Sully and Kelly dominate. For example, Shawn Marion is a great player, but I don’t know that he’d be so great if Dirk wasn’t on the floor opening it up for him.

          And thank you for point out that we don’t want Kelly and Sully at the 5. That’s just not where they succeed. Kelly on court with Humphries is good if you have Sully on the court with a 7-footer. But we don’t have Kris, and we don’t know what Tyler will do.

          • stevemb34

            Agreed on the bigs. I like both KO and Sully but at the 5 I want a rim protector. Zeller could be a really nice piece and I’m really intrigued with him running the floor with Rondo and the kids, but he’s just that – a piece. That’s all.

            In terms of SFs, I think Young could be that and I think Green is one of the best non-all star SFs in the East. Guy’s infuriatingly inconsistent but that’s what we’re working with for the next year or 2. Considering he’s one of the few guys on the squad that can be somewhat relied on to score it could be worse (and yes, I hate saying that as much as you hate reading it. I MISS YOU PAUL! haha)

          • Curt Hays

            I fully agree with you. I’m excited to see what Young can do. Green IS a fine player. I don’t really miss Paul though. He frustrated me to no end. I love his results, but I don’t really like how he gets them. On the court, he always seemed lazy compared to Ray, Rondo, and KG.

            I can see Green working well if we can get a 5-man team on the floor this year.

          • stevemb34

            BITE YOUR TONGUE. I miss 10 years ago Paul but I don’t need to see him winding down here but man, you know he played LeBron a ton, right? And he played some small-ball 4 when we went small? And that he carried the bulk of the #1 scorer scoring load too? If he frustrated you then you may be one of those people that thinks we’re going to get an all-timer like Bird every generation and that’s just not how things work unfortunately. He is my favorite player of all time because he did A LOT with his not-quite-a-superstar gifts while sticking it out. Watching him cry as the banner went up was one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen from a pro athlete and having seen it all from section 301 for the better part of 20 years, it made me so happy to see how much he cared not only that he got it done but that he got it done here. That guy bled green. Stop hating.

          • Curt Hays

            I love Paul. I am proud of/for those who say he’s their favorite of all time. I am not hating! Haha.

            Bird is my favorite ever. The end. But since 1992, it’s KG and Rondo. I can’t watch the “Anything is possible!” video anymore because then everyone wants to know why I’m crying. I’m with you on the fandom. I love watching P2 hit jumpers. He just frustrated me the last few years, but, in retrospect, it was mostly Doc Rivers, not P2.

          • stevemb34

            That’s fair. Bird was a bit before my time – I’m 31 so I remember the back-issues Bird and pops talking about the in-his-prime, for-now-best-sf-ever but I didn’t actually watch him out-duel Dominique or drop 40 on a team shooting lefty just for funsies or smash his head on the parquet and then come back or I’m sure he’d be up there for me too.

          • Curt Hays

            You just keep on supporting Paul like that. Stay green.

          • stevemb34

            haha always

          • bill_nair

            Dont make me hunt you down Curt.

          • Curt Hays

            I started to try to say that I love the Lak…well, I just couldn’t do it.

          • jrleftfoot

            Green`s sa fine player and Paul was lazy? okaaaay

          • Curt Hays

            Maybe take what I said IN context instead of out of context.

          • jrleftfoot

            I what ” context” was Paul Pierce lazy?

      • bill_nair

        Green is better than any option out there right now. Thats why I believe Danny hasnt traded him yet. As far as a center, well Danny looks like he wants one in this draft.

    • Curt Hays

      Also, you left off Bogans, Wallace, Anthony, Babb, Johnson, Vitor.

      I guess we could package up some combo of Turner, Bass, Green, Bogans, Babb, and Johnson (please keep CJ) for something decent.

    • Dirk Diggler

      That would be fun to watch and all, and I think they’ll be better — mostly because I’m Stevens’ biggest supporter — but this team may currently have the worst interior defense in the league and I’d like to see as many lottery picks as possible if Danny must opt to rebuild in OKC type fashion, which I don’t mind as much as others by the way.

      • bill_nair

        Bingo! Danny doesnt want to be good again. If he did he would’ve sured up the frontline and maybe went harder after Parsons/Monroe/Melo/etc. Having a weak frontline assures were a lotto team. Hopefully top 10 so we get a shot at one of the centers.

        • Dirk Diggler

          Which is fine by me. But if this team is expecting to go lottery we need to make up our mind on Rajon Rondo. I want him here, but if we can acquire more 1st round picks — we have to do it.

          I’m not a fan of the Avery Bradley deal, but the Celtics PERIMETER defense does look like it has a nice chunk of talent there now between Rondo, Bradley, Smart, Turner, and Green. Young also has length and quickness to develop into great defender.

          The INTERIOR defense, which hasn’t been acceptable for some time now, doesn’t look like it’s going to improve unless the C’s get a big man through the draft or acquire a Larry Sanders/ Jon Henson type or two off of bad teams.

          • bill_nair

            I mostly agree I just dont think Rondo is make or break for a “tank”. Knicks gift wrapped the Nuggets a top 12 pick with Melo having the best season of his career statistically. I think we agree Rondo is no where near that level. If Rondo can actually will this roster to the playoffs I think we’d be underestimating his value. I just dont see it that way.

            We still have no one to win us games in the 4th or anyone to help keep teams from destroying us in the paint. Rondo could have a career year like Melo and this team will still suck due to us trotting out mostly role players.

            If this team overachieves, sell high on Rondo and Green/Bradley/who ever the hell is scoring for us. No need to rush anything with absolutely no plans in place.

  • Nick Ault

    Unrelated, but can someone enlighten me to the details of the Humphreys sign and trade. I heard it was a future second rounder and (maybe?) a trade exception.

    • Mike

      Celtics got a $4.3M trade exception(the value of Hump’s contract the first yr). One could wonder if they used that full trade exception on Turner’s deal? Or they are stashing it along with bogans non guaranteed, $2M trade exception from Courtney Lee deal, and all their #1 picks. Love anyone?

    • Rich Jensen

      They got a top 50 protected 2nd rounder from Washington in the Hump S&T.

      The Evan Turner deal uses a portion of the MLE, so no need for a S&T or use of the trade exception.

  • Evan Murphy

    Guy had better numbers than green last year when he was with Philly

    • dontevertreadonme

      dude can ball. he killed the celts. green is a joke can’t wait for that lame to go

      • stevemb34

        Green > Turner and I LOVED the Villain at OSU

  • Caterpillar from Italy

    Wow. That’s great news.

    Yeah, right..

  • robbybonfire23

    OMG, what an AWFUL, lazy, and unmotivated players, highly deficient in all areas except defensive rebounding. Good luck, with this one, Celtics, he will be gone by mid-season. His NBA career should be done. Maybe Billy King will acquire Turner, next? Always some enfeebled G.M. out there willing to save a buck to DOWNGRADE his team. This is shocking, I thought the Celtics were on the right track, especially with

    the fleecing of Billy King, and the drafting of Marcus Smart. This signing is 10 steps backward for its future implications.

    • bill_nair

      Not even close but you go ahead and think that.

      • robbybonfire23

        Well, get back with me in mid-season, when Turner is either gone, or the last man off the bench. I suffered him in Philly, far too long. You may have our leftovers, Boston, we still have some other dregs to get rid of.

        I am not trolling here, probably will not come back, but Evan Turner is a special interest case of mine. For starters, it boggles my mind that any other organization would even become involved with him. I will not suffer when he pulls the Celtics down for the 10 minutes he is with you.

        • bill_nair

          I’m not debating whether he’ll be good or not, just the hyperbole that it sets us 10 step backs. In mid season I expect him to be on the bench as a third string SF making less than he was on his rookie deal, like you said. Nothing about that is setting this franchise back at all.

  • bob

    Can’t anyone understand that Ainge is now better prepared to trade both Green and Rondo if he feels a need to. He will release or include in a trade Babb, Bogans, and Johnson. Got Evan CHEAP!!! Great acquisition! He will get back to form with good guards to get him the ball.

  • Lee in Oregon

    I think we’re gonna see a lot of small-ball this year.

    • LA Flake

      Does that mean Doc is coming back?

  • Lee in Oregon

    Just saw where he’s a David Falk client, so I will assume he got MOST of the MLE.

  • Coach A. Johnson

    Nothing wrong with acquiring assets, folks. We aren’t going anywhere soon. The young guys have got to play and earn officials respect so those dreaded rookie calls don’t go against us. They have got to adjust to the speed of this league. This signing is just Danny preparing to make another deal. So forward a guy like Bass knows he could be traded before the start of the season. And despite what he says, Wallace definitely wants out. Sorry for Babb, Johnson, Moser, Iverson, and especially the 18 year old Young, as they all get a ticket to Maine. Bogans is gone. This is a good signing. Turner will be the 3rd SG and 3rd SF until a deal for Wallace can be made. Yes I think Danny has something up his sleeve regarding Wallace and Anthony and a playoff team or two. Training camp calls for about 19 or so bodies.

  • robbybonfire23

    What you mention is my second scenario for Turner. My first scenario for him is that he really should be out of the NBA, for good, this coming season. He’s a complete waste of attitude and ability, a cancer in the locker room no franchise really needs to have to deal with.