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Report: Celtics acquiring Tyler Zeller, Marcus Thornton, pick

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) July 9, 2014 Trades 116 Comments

 

Danny Ainge is a slick dude. The Cleveland Cavaliers are desperately clearing cap space in an effort to bring LeBron James back to town.  Ainge is sitting there with a $10.3 million Traded Player Exception just casually putting the “hey, you need to trade decent players, I got space for ‘em” vibe. Meanwhile….

The Celtics, according Paul Flannery, give up a 2nd rounder for the pleasure of getting 7-foot former UNC star Tyler Zeller (2nd team all-rookie in 2012), and Marcus Thornton a talented guard who’ll provide some bench scoring…. assuming he stays.

Thornton will make $8.5 million this upcoming season, while Zeller is on the final guaranteed year of his rookie deal ($1.7 million).  My guess is the C’s will take a long, hard look at Zeller as a potential future piece, while Thornton becomes “expiring contract trade bait”.

Oh, and the Celtics got a first-rounder from the Cavs in this deal.  While it REALLY looks like they’re about to bring LeBron back to Cleveland, it’s still possible that it’s all some kind of ploy and he’ll go back to Miami.  If LeBron screws the Cavs AGAIN, that first round pick will lo0k pretty good.

Update:  Woj has the pick details and protections:

Regardless, the Celtics have now added three viable assets to the team and they only gave up a second round pick.  This is pretty well done for Ainge who is clearly only just getting started.  This is definitely a “stand by, more to come” situation.

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  • dk

    Now we have all of the Nets players from 2013. Like the 1st round pick we get–would love to help Cleveland in an effort to screw MIA and Pat the Devil Himself Riley–although be nice to also see that fall through and get a high draft pick from Cleveland next year.

  • Kahnstantine

    In Danny I Trust

    • Rich Jensen

      I like this trade too, but I don’t think it gets the C’s any closer to acquiring Love.

  • Reggie35RIP

    Adrian Wojnarowski:
    Boston gets: Marcus Thornton-Tyler Zeller, Cavs 2016 protected pick. Top 10 in ’16, ’17 or ’18. Unprotected in ’19.

    Woah… Go Danny.

    This is even more hilarious because I don’t think Cleveland have a hope in hell of getting James back.

    • adam

      even better if he waits until 19 and its a first round. because we all know the cavs are going to implode again.

      • forever_green

        That’s the only real value in the pick, waiting till 2019.

  • Mike

    Now the celtics have an additional first rounder to send to Minnesota in a K Love deal. This would mean Minnesota would be going younger. Smart, olynyk, sullinger and a couple first rounders and we could potentially have Love, rondo, green, Zeller, Bradley? Thornton if he stays. Anything could happen once we acquire Love.

  • adam

    oh another guard. that’s like what…. ten on the roster now? Let’s see what Danny is doing is right.

    • bill_nair

      We finally got a center though!

    • Jaedre

      a bunch of them wont be here come training camp… he is collecting pieces to trade for Kevin Love.

    • CoachAJ

      I am looking at 8 guards, but Babb, Johnson, Bayless are probably gone, with Young likely to spend a lot of time in Maine. That is if Danny keeps Thornton, right. Then it’s Rondo-Bradley with Smart-Thornton. Man that is rock solid guard rotation now.

      • CoachAJ

        Oh man I realize I left out the 5th guard, Pressey. Still think the kid is on the team. Always good to have 5 guards on a 15 man team.

        • LA Flake

          I hope we keep Pressey, too. That dude is a fighter.

  • bill_nair

    Tyler Zeller is a solid young Center. These are the type of moves I was hoping Danny made. Buy low on some young guys teams are willing to part with to go after stars. Our roster has a little more balance now. I just hope Thornton throws a fit like Bogans and stays home. Dont really wanna see him chucking shots in green.

  • tvor03

    That Cleveland first-rounder is perfect trade fodder. Because whether or not Lebron goes to Cleveland, they still have Wiggins and Irving so they’ll still be good. It’ll be a late pick, great to pair with the Clippers pick.

    • bill_nair

      I wish they didnt protect it but gone are the days where GMs arent quite competent.

      • tvor03

        Brooklyn wasn’t smart enough to protect their picks. Cha-ching!

        • LA Flake

          Yeah but they got our heart and soul. They were worth that.

        • Rich Jensen

          I suspect that Danny insisted on that.

        • forever_green

          Even unprotected this years pick from them wasn’t worth anything.

          • tvor03

            This year’s pick was slightly protected since Atlanta had the option to switch with them. But how good do you think Brooklyn will be in two years when Pierce and KG are gone, Johnson and Lopez are completely broken, and the team is trying to ride Deron Williams to success? Those three picks in 16, 17, and 18 are gonna be golden.

          • forever_green

            Yeah your right, its a wait and see type thing on those picks..so far though its been one awful season failing at tanking and not much improvement.

          • tvor03

            The great thing about those picks is we can be playoff competitive, yet still be in the lottery! Best of both worlds!

          • Fitzy

            that’s what red was doing.

    • Fitzy

      Cavs aren’t a playoff team next year if lebron doesn’t return.

      • tvor03

        With Wiggins and Irving, and if Bennett makes a jump, playing in the East, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s a 41 win team.

        • LA Flake

          Yeah but you’re talking about a young team even in 2019. And since they’re only good at milking high lotto picks from the NBA, I’d hold on to their pick until it’s totally unprotected. The league may forget that they owe us that pick and give them another #1 pick, y’know.

          • tvor03

            It’s not like we can delay the pick to when it is more advantageous for us.

      • wil

        eastern conference bro

  • Curt Hays

    FINALLY A CENTER. Thank you, Danny!

    • bill_nair

      I really like Zeller too. Theres potential there and hes actually played solid when giving minutes. I remember him beating up on our celtics in I believe ’12.

      • Curt Hays

        Zeller is SO undervalued. The guy is passionate to a fault. I think Celtics fans will perform a collective double take when Tyler takes the floor the first time.

        • LA Flake

          I know nothing about him but dang you got me all excited!

          • Curt Hays

            I’m quite happy about him.

    • BillRussell

      seriously!! a Legit 7 footer too. What do you think Zellers ceiling is?

      • Curt Hays

        Slightly above Kendrick Perkins’s peak if Perk lost weight

        • BillRussell

          hopefully better hands and scoring- probably not as much a defensive presence as Perk but hopefully Rondo will toughen him up a little-
          its crazy cuz we literally have a very young team

        • LA Flake

          Blasphemy! Nobody’s above Perk. NOBODY!

  • Rich Jensen

    Yeah. Ainge is a terrible GM. Just picked up a promising young center and a first round draft pick for free.

    • Guest

      lol

    • bill_nair

      Fire him!

  • Andrew Vellucci

    Absolutely love this trade for the celtics Tyler Zeller is a solid center with starter potential, marcus thornton is a great expiring contract and if he plays like the old marcus thornton he could be a great bench player, and the first round pick obviously is nice too

    • LA Flake

      I’ve seen Thornton a little bit playing well for the Nets last year. Other than that, I know nothing about him. So, my question is, HOW THE HELL DID HE GET A CONTRACT THAT BIG? Who was the moron that gave it to him in the first place?

      Jeez…

  • KGino

    Who wouldn’t love a trade where you give up nothing and gain 3 assets? Duh you love the trade

    • adam

      wondering what our payroll is looking like right now.

      • KGino

        I think with Rondo, Anthony, and now Thorton coming off the books in 2015 we’ll have 32mil in cap space to chase free agents (Kevin Durant)

        • Fitzy

          Rondo will have a cap hold until he signs or we turn down his bird rights.

        • Dave

          Durant is a free agent in 2016 actually

          • KGino

            My mistake. But we will still be chasing him regardless. Love isn’t a free agent this year either, but it hasn’t stopped all the rumors

      • LA Flake

        Ask and you shall receive:
        http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/R7A4AQqIT5Y/sddefault.jpg

        Oops. Was that a photo of Mallory Edens? No…I wasn’t stalking her on the Web or anything. Where were we? Oh yeah….Our salary situation…Ahem.
        http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4713862/roster-reset-post-trade-glance

        • RedsLoveChild

          Schwing!!

          All Hail LA Flake!

  • Lee in Oregon

    Well done! I don’t see how Zeller doesn’t start on this team. Backcourt will be competitive, at least in camp.

  • Brad P

    Using that trade exception like a boss! Go Danny!

  • RedsLoveChild

    Celts acquire a journeyman guard….4 teams in 4 years
    Celts acquire a back-up center…5 PPG, 4 RPG last year

    Celtic fan reacts with typical irrational exuberance…Ainge is a conquering hero!!!

    • Section328

      Journeyman Guard = Expiring Contract.

      This trade was a well-played move by Ainge.

    • bill_nair

      like you never reacted irrationally?

      • RedsLoveChild

        One time I did.

        It happened in 2003…the Celts hired Danny Ainge as GM…at the time I naively thought that was a great hire, and was thrilled!

        • Rich Jensen

          Listen, we’re all sorry that Danny Ainge ran over your dog and then stole your girl friend and then peed in your kiddie pool, but you’ve got to get over these things.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Ainge gave up nothing…I`ll readily acknowledge that much.

            He also got “next-to-nothing” in return. There`s no need to start planning any duck parades over what happened today.

          • Rich Jensen

            If Ainge had let the TPE lapse, you would’ve been ragging on him for that as well. Because that’s just what you do.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Like I said…he gave up nothing, and he basically got nothing in return. So, what`s all the excitement about?

            This makes him a great GM?!?

            I want Ainge to succeed as much as anyone here does. He was my 2nd favorite Celtic, next to Bird, in the `80`s!

            Seeing him kick ass as a GM would be extra sweet, to irritate all those Celtic haters who made Ainge Public Enemy #1 during his playing career.

            DA has this false image of being “sneaky-smart”, a step ahead of other GM`s. Fine, but I`m still waiting to see the evidence to support any of that.

          • KGino

            The problem is RLC, if you don’t give respect where respect is due, you lose credibility… You become a “hater”.

            No one on here is saying this is a game changing move for the franchise. But when you give up nothing and get a bunch of trade assets in return, its a positive move.

            We’re all excited about a positive move for the franchise, that’s it (as YOU should be, but your pessimistic ways don’t allow you). Today was a good day for DA. With that comes praise. When he makes another bone headed move like the Perk trade, we’ll all be there to sh** on him too. It’s how the world works.

          • LA Flake

            I agree. DA gave up nothing and we got a prospect, an expiring and a potential lotto pick in 2019. It’s a good day. Doesn’t make DA the greatest GM, but he got us #17, so I think he deserves our patience.
            Hope this makes you feel better, RLC.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Thanks, LAF

            This does demonstrate one thing : College success is no guarantee of NBA success.

          • LA Flake

            I know, man. But it’s July and it’s scorching hot in LA. Let’s just drink a lot of Kool Aid and feel good about ourselves because we probably won’t feel too good in February 2015.

          • forever_green

            It seems drinking that Kool Aid is the only way to prevent everyone from getting so defensive for not having the same view.

          • RedsLoveChild

            You`re right, again.

            More Mallory, bro!

          • Rich Jensen

            How many GMs in this league have won NBA titles?

            How many GMs in this league have been to multiple NBA Finals?

            And, before you give me the old “Kevin McHale won the title in 2008″ line, tell me which ex-Celtic traded Ray Allen to Boston, and tell me who drafted Perk, Tony Allen and Rajon Rondo. Then tell me who signed Eddie House and James Posey. Also, feel free to tell me which team was offering more than Boston for Kevin Garnett?

          • forever_green

            The questions you keep asking to make your argument must mean a lot to you seeing you like to repeat yourself, then you like being a hypocrite and ask others not to repeat themselves with their response to your repeated questions…if you want to keep brown nosing DA with your one sided views go right ahead.

          • Rich Jensen

            Just waiting for honest answers to them. And I still haven’t gotten them, I see.

          • KGino

            You’ll never get them… All RLC knows how to do is deflect from arguments that crush his comments. See the “potato chip” comment above for proof.

            My impression of RLC: “Oh no! A viable argument! Quick change the subject!! Yes!! He mentioned potato chips! Now I can just make a random comment about that instead of addressing the topic at hand and countering his statements…”

          • tvor03

            you hit the nail on the head with that assessment. I try my best to ignore him, but sometimes the ignorance is just too much I have to say something. but it falls on deaf ears.

          • KGino

            Haha yea there’s no getting through to him. Someone has to call him out when he’s being unreasonable though, and that person is usually me… LOL.

            What kind of stubborn man wouldn’t admit this is a steal of a trade? Is the 20th pick not better than the 40th pick? Does the fact that we don’t have to play Joel Anthony hardly at all now this year not excite him? Is the fact that DA used the TPE before it expired and became NOTHING not a good thing?

          • Rich Jensen

            Meh. I’m just killing time.

          • RedsLoveChild

            You really want to rehash everything we went over a week ago?

            All the blown draft picks? The Perk trade that instantly sent us into irrelevancy?

            I`ve given him plenty of credit for the good trades he`s made…will you ever criticize him for any of his many swings & misses?

          • KGino

            You lecturing us for only looking at one side of things is the most hypocritical thing I’ve seen all year

          • Rich Jensen

            “You really want to rehash everything we went over a week ago?”

            No. I want you to answer these questions:

            1) Did an ex-Celtic trade Ray Allen to Boston?
            2) Who drafted Perk?
            3) Who drafted Tony Allen?
            4) Who drafted Rajon Rondo?
            5) Who signed Eddie House?
            6) Who signed James Posey?
            7) Which team was offering more
            than Boston for Kevin Garnett?
            8) How many GMs in the NBA today have won NBA titles as a GM?
            9) How many GMs in the NBA today have been to multiple NBA Finals as a GM?

          • RedsLoveChild

            Who drafted those guys?

            That would be the same guy who drafted G. Pruitt over Marc Gasol…M. Banks over David West…JuJuan Johnson over Chandler Parsons…and everyones favorite JR Giddens over DeAndre Jordan, Omer Asik, and Goran Dragic.

            The same guy who signed James Posey let him walk away one year later…let Tony Allen walk…trades away his starting center at mid-season, from the best team in the NBA for Jeff Green. And McHale does, indeed, deserve a ring for his 2007 trade contribution.

          • Rich Jensen

            Now how ’bout you take a stab at questions 1, 7, 8, and 9?

          • RedsLoveChild

            How `bout you taking a stab at my responses to questions…. 2, 3, 4, 6?

          • Rich Jensen

            I didn’t know that you wanted a response to an obvious rhetorical device.

            But since you asked, my response is the same as it was last week.

          • RedsLoveChild

            That speaks volumes

          • Rich Jensen

            It sure does. I asked you a few questions then and I’m still waiting for answers.

            You know, like how I’m still waiting for answers to questions 1, 7, 8, and 9.

          • RedsLoveChild

            One question, RJ :

            Will you EVER admit that Ainge is an “imperfect” GM…that he has ever struck out on any trade or any draft pick?

            I realize it would be a major breakthrough for you to admit such a thing.

            I`ve praised him on his rare good moves {Brkln trade, the short lived Posey signing, etc.}.

          • Rich Jensen

            1) That’s not the question up for consideration here. Nobody asserted that Ainge was perfect. This is another one of your poorly reasoned attacks on Ainge, therefore the question is whether Ainge is as bad a GM as you assert that he is, not whether he is perfect.

            2) I’ve elsewhere said that Ainge isn’t the best GM in the NBA. I doubt that a case could be made for any GM other than Buford.

            3) Saying, ‘I’ve praised him for ….’ is irrelevant. The issue here is your persistent and poorly thought out criticism, not anything else you may have said.

          • Rich Jensen

            Oh, hey, you tried to answer 8 and 9 but couldn’t.

            And Lamar Odom + Andrew Bynum + a pick was better than Al Jefferson + 2 picks? C’mon man. You’d have a tough time selling that deal even in 2007, much less today with the benefit of hindsight.

          • tvor03

            You’re arguments last week were almost entirely about drafting, and you still failed to prove that Danny is any worse at drafting than any other GM in the league. You kept mentioning Chandler Parsons, which was ridiculous since every GM in the league passed on Parsons, including Houston twice. If every GM in the league made the same decision, then you can’t say DA is any worse. He may not be any better based on that scenario, but he can’t be called worse.

    • Rich Jensen

      I notice you forgot to mention the draft pick.

      Which is funny, because you’re all about the draft picks.

      • RedsLoveChild

        You mean that “Top 10 protected” pick through 2018?

        • KGino

          this is cleveland we’re talking about here… There’s at least a chance we get a 2019 unprotected lol

        • Rich Jensen

          Odds are they’ll get that pick before 2019.

          And what exactly did it cost Boston to get that pick?

    • KGino

      He just traded a SECOND round pick for a FIRST round pick, a very young center with some potential (giant position of need for our team right now, regardless of how good he is at the moment), and picked up an 8.5 mil expiring contract in 2015 (trade asset as well). What’s not to like?

      • RedsLoveChild

        That single potato chip will do “less damage” to your arteries and waistline than the sandwich, milkshake, and the side of fries.

        • KGino

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHA avoids the argument all together… Good idea.

          Now i just deleted that part and you look insane

          • RedsLoveChild

            Look insane?

            Ok, that`s cool….then I`ll know what it feels like to be KGino!

          • KGino

            nobody cares bud

          • RedsLoveChild

            You seem to

          • KGino

            stick to the topic you coward

          • RedsLoveChild

            I thought the topic was your food analogy.
            You know, the one you`ve since deleted, KCoward?

          • KGino

            Good one. Not really though. That was insanely weak and irrelevant. You have no reason to call me a coward (i’m right here ready to battle verbally anytime)… You know why I have reason to call you one.

            The point is, you’re not man enough to go toe to toe with me in a debate because I just end up making you look stupid. You know it, I know it, and everyone that reads Reds Army & the comments on a regular basis knows it.

            You are no better than that Herman Bubbert guy who comes on here to bash rondo at every chance… Except you have a fetish for Danny Ainge.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Stop fighting mental health, dude

          • KGino

            Deflect deflect deflect… Donny Marshall would love you

    • Jaedre

      he turned a TPE that would have expired on Saturday into a young center and an expiring contract an a future 1st rd pick. sounds like he turned it into trade bait. i think he did pretty good.

    • jrleftfoot

      And RedsLoveChild reacts with his usual biliousness

      • wil

        lol only an idiot would think that wasnt a good deal.

    • wil

      did you expect to get Kevin Love with that TPE?

  • Caterpillar from Italy

    All WE Need is Love

  • romeo0119

    Does Zelle really have a mid range jump shot?

    • tvor03

      A pretty nice one too. He plays like Pau Gasol. Face-up the basket from fifteen feet, take the shot if it’s there, move quickly about the rim if it’s not.

  • Thatguy

    …I’d like to apologize for yesterday’s comment. Ainge is slick…

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