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Marcus Smart is coming to Boston (we think)

Chuck - Red's Army June 26, 2014 Celtics News, Draft 71 Comments

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Marcus Smart is athletic, tough and physical. He is also an elite defender. Unfortunately, he’s not a natural shooter.

Another drawback is his position. He’s a point guard. What does this mean for Rajon Rondo? Or.. does this mean Avery Bradley is out? Celtics need a pure shooter in that trio.

We have plenty of time to speculate…

Draft Express Scouting Report on Smart

There was some chatter that Danny Ainge was contemplating a deal with Sacramento but it never materialized:

Mike Scotto of Sheridan Sports has insight on why the Celtics passed on Noah Vonleh:

No character concerns with Smart though. Interesting.

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  • pierce Hart

    D wade on steroids guys! remember how terrible Bradley was at shooting!!

    • Justin Quinn

      yep. i think he’s an AB replacement.

      • bill_nair

        Rondo/Bradley/Smart is a heck of a defensive backcourt.

        • LA Flake

          Kinda small but three more shots of Johnny and I’ll believe anything.

      • pierce Hart

        for sure, we’ve proved a backcourt that cant shoot very well can work!

        • bill_nair

          Smarts got good form on his shot, I’m not worried. I think he’ll be a decent shooter.

  • bill_nair

    I’m happy. Could be a lot worse. I’m just glad we didn’t move it for Mclemore. Smart will most likely be an all star just hope it’s in green (hopefully playing the 2).

    • eddysamson

      I’ve just been feeling we take Smart this whole time. I like it. I think he gives us good AB insurance and he will be a better backup PG than Pressey. I still love Pressey though he deserves to stick around.

      Oh yeah and whoever has been working with Rondo and AB on their shots will be a huge help for him.

      • bill_nair

        We just lost Ron Adams one of the leagues great shooting coaches :/. Smarts got good form though I think it will come with repetition. We need scorers and Smart has that potential. We also need someone else who can dribble and create.

        • eddysamson

          Young is a perfect pick here I think. Smart can fill AB’s defensive void (if he leaves) and Young can score and has good length for D. Rondo is up in the air but Smart definitely helps if he’s gone.

          • bill_nair

            Youngs got so much upside we haven’t seen yet cause he was in a stacked UK team.

  • tvor03

    I really wanted Randle. And I’m scared for Rondo. I’m not really happy.

    • RedwasKing

      Ya’ll are crazy. Just watch Smart’s highlights and you will be excited. The only player in this draft who will have the immediate offensive impact that he has will be Jabari, and he has nothing on smart on the defensive side of the ball. He might have a developing jump shot, but don’t be surprised if this guy turns into a Westbrook-esque perennial allstar

      • Herman Bubbert

        At this point, he doesn’t have Westbrook’s character. There’s no question Smart is a talented kid, but he can’t seem to just play the game. The histrionics in college are a HUGE concern for me, as are his penchant for landing in hot water in Stillwater – a community notorious for overlooking the foibles of its athletes.
        Smart is going to have to clean up his act on and off the floor to convince me that Ainge didn’t throw away a lottery pick.

        • Curt Hays

          So there’s more than just the stuff on the court? I’ve heard that he had some road bumps, but that it’s only cause he’s a kid.

  • RedsLoveChild

    Ainge has to go!!!
    DA = Dumb Ass
    Does anyone really need more proof?

    Another year of getting destroyed on the boards…Smart is short and can`t shoot…Ainge drops J Randle right into LA`s lap!

    • pierce Hart

      Ainge deserves to be fired? we were a coin toss from Exum hype, and very unfortunate with the lottery. Overall the job Ainge has done has been outstanding, he always delivers.

      • stevemb34

        I wanted no parts of Exum and loved Smart. Simmons kept drilling it but a kid that ditches out on all competition to preserve his draft hype isn’t the kind of kid I wanna use a vital pick on. May end up he’s as good as advertised but I’d feel much better about that had he played a game in the past 12 months.

    • bill_nair

      Glad I’m not this bummed out. Might’ve called for his firing if we got Gordon.

    • jrleftfoot

      waah

    • Kahnstantine

      Name all of the current GMs that have won a title.

      • forever_green

        Its been 6 years..you wanna wait 14 more?

    • zippittyay

      I’m only disappointed Randle didn’t go in the top 5 we could have gotten the one who dropped.

      • LA Flake

        I was hoping someone would take Vonleh and Randle and leave Embiid alone in the top 5.

        Sigh.

    • stevemb34

      Danny has us in position to improve right away! We potentially got the next best backcourt in the East last night. I LOVE them both. Meanwhile Randle, who is pretty special with the ball, is a 4 (we have more than a few of them) that can’t really defend anyone at all, can’t play the 5 and needs a defensive big next to him to be truly effective. I firmly believe Smart’s a better player anyway, but the last thing we needed was another 4. Do you watch basketball? Who’s really the DA here?

      Also, we just had a great draft and seem to be in great shape to be back in the Playoffs in 2-3 years and have even more picks to build around over that time. Seems to me his plan is coming to fruition perfectly.

      • RedsLoveChild

        Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
        I`m sure Ainge appreciates it.

    • Curt Hays

      I won’t lie that I am pretty bothered by this too, but then I remember that Randle is 6’9″. I’m tired of short PFs. Maybe he’ll grow, but we need bigs, not thicks.

      • RedsLoveChild

        Randle is the same size as Zach Randolph.

        Maybe they`ll get a decent player in the paint when they soon trade Rondo, which is an absolute certainty….or, maybe in next year`s draft, where they will definitely be a top lottery team.

        • Curt Hays

          Ok ok, I’ve been wrong a lot lately, so let’s check my perspective.

          If we have Sully, then why do we need Julius Randle (other than to keep him from the Lakers)? Based on their draft cards, they are the exact same height, and we know that Sully is a multi talented beast.

          You think we’ll trade Rondo because Smart is a duplicate of him, but for less money?

          • RedsLoveChild

            No question they drafted Smart to replace Rondo. Ainge has no desire to pay Rondo what Rondo thinks he`s worth. IMO, Rondo has already played his final game as a Celt. If they get decent talent with size in return for Rondo, I`ll feel a lot better about last night.

            I don`t trust Sully`s body to stay healthy, nor do I trust Sully`s commitment to condition that body. The season ended 10 weeks ago, and he has not lost a single pound. Very bad sign for a guy who stated he would do so.

            Last night, why not draft Randle at 6 then Nappier at 17? If Nappier shows he can play, then trade Rondo for something beneficial. Miami desperately wanted Nappier to make LBJ happy, plus the guy has serious talent leading UCONN to the title.

          • LA Flake

            I would’ve been happy with Randle but now that he’s a Laker, deep down, I kinda wish his foot problems are real. Does that make me a bad person?

            I also would’ve loved Napier but I’m also happy with Young, so I’m not that conflicted about our 17th pick.

          • RedsLoveChild

            I can`t believe they passed on Randle…and I really hate that I`m now forced to root for Randle to be injury prone!

          • Curt Hays

            I am very happy about Young, but @jerrysondler:disqus is right. Napier with Randle would be sick.

            Also, eff the Lakers.

          • Curt Hays

            Valid point. I WANT to watch Rondo and Sully win it, but if we had Napier and Randle, we could trade Rondo and Sully for someone amazing. That’s a pretty scary thought. Danny DID kinda blow it.

  • SomeguyinSac

    For all we know, Danny has some package deal cooking on the back burner and I’ll withhold my judgement on this development, until after all is said and done with the draft this year.

  • bill_nair

    Great moment there for Isiah. I feel bad for the kid. Wish him long term health.

    • LA Flake

      So, is the league giving him a job? Or was that just for show?

  • bill_nair

    I wanted Hood, Warren or Young. Very happy with the 17th pick.

    • stevemb34

      Me too!!! I’ve been talking about dying for Young, Hood, or Payne at 17 since the lottery but didn’t think it was realistic. Can’t believe we actually got who I wanted. The kid can’t dribble and there’s a very slippery slope between Michael Redd/Mickael Pietrus and Ron Mercer for guys limited handles but I’ll always roll the dice on talented kids that can shoot. I think he becomes a better Gerald Green (the current one, not the jack@$$ on the Celtics that I wasted $60 on a uniform for.)

  • zippittyay

    there will no doubt be someone taken 7-15 that will cause many to say “That stupid Ainge, why did we pass on THAT guy?”

    • bill_nair

      The people who hate Smart now would’ve been asking Danny to trade Rondo for him at the deadline if he was elsewhere. People just need something to complain about.

    • stevemb34

      That happens every year though (see Simmons actually great draft piece from earlier in the week.) Unless it’s Vonleh or Randle which I don’t think it will be, you can’t get mad in hindsight that we didn’t “reach” for someone that was never supposed to be anywhere near the top 6.

      I also think Smart’s going to be the best player from this draft that was actually available at 6. I truly think he’s a stud.

  • Andrew Vellucci

    im pissed celtics should have traded down but i love the James Young pick

    • stevemb34

      Have you watched college ball over the last couple years? (not trolling, legit question) You will grow to love Smart. That guy is tenacious.

      I’m depressed this means Rajon’s probably gone but that was probably happening anyway unless we got Love.

      • adam

        Not necessarily. This might me Avery Bradley back up.

  • LA Flake

    God damn the Sixers!
    God damn the Magic!
    And I hope Randle turns into Michael Beasley 2.0.

    • stevemb34

      I think he’s a slightly better Brandon Bass. Put up great #s in college but he couldn’t defend you with a gun. I think 7 was right for him. I don’t like him as much as anyone that went ahead of him other than Gordon who’s just gonna be a role player.

    • Curt Hays

      Those were my words exactly for every pick. They kept stealing all the good players.

  • adam

    it actually seems kind of logical. we have sully and kelly. two power forwards. why would we take randle of noah. i am sure i can live with this. they said smart would have went number one last year if he declared.

  • romeo0119

    Orlando will trade their star center away for nothing like they did with Howard, just watch and see

    • LA Flake

      And this is the problem I have with the David Stern era. Cities like Toronto, Orlando, Minnesota and a host of others SHOULD NOT have an NBA team. Not only did Stern dilute the league, but those cities cannot support their pro teams! And what ends up happening in the end is they lose their best players to bigger market teams and furthers the divide between the haves and have-nots.

      I hate these know-it-all central planners. Why can’t we have a 20-team, ultra-competitive league?

      • RedsLoveChild

        Here`s why we can`t…..$$$$$

      • Curt Hays

        Or we could just have the communist basketball league. To each according to need, from each according to ability.

  • forever_green

    All I ask is we hold DA accountable from now on & stop being DA apologists.

    • stevemb34

      We just came off the best run the Celtics have had since Bird and now have A TON of 1s and got a kid who would’ve probably gone #1 overall last year. Unless you mean “Hold DA accountable” to mean give him a raise, I don’t know WTF you expect. He’s been pretty amazing and steady with a plan that seems to be materializing. Full disclosure, I’m very high on James Young and have been all year but what else do you expect of the guy??? KG missed the 09 Playoffs and we were a break away from getting another ring in 2010 and, even with an ancient Pierce and KG, took Miami to 7 a few years later. You can’t win every year. We turned a 3 year window into an amazing 6 year run and are now primed to be on the upswing again already with tons of 1s over the next few years (aka won’t be anywhere near 20 years to get good again like last time) to really build something if Danny keeps nailing the picks. So very very greedy…

      • Herman Bubbert

        It fascinates me how the Ainge bootlickers rush with posts like this that just ignore his 50-50 draft record. The guy is NOT a drafting genius, and his record is absolutely clear on this point.
        None of that, however, is to say he may not have nailed this year’s draft. Marcus Smart is going to have to drop his well-deserved Big 12 image as the “Flopping Thug” and just play the game for Ainge to go two-for-two here. If he doesn’t, Ainge just blew a lottery pick on Ron Artest Jr.

        • stevemb34

          I’m not an “Ainge bootlicker” but you do realize that this isn’t the NFL and there aren’t 60 guys in each draft that can contribute and drafting in the 20s and going 50/50 is actually pretty good, right? Ya, the JR Giddens pick was a disaster but the draft is a crapshoot typically and he’s consistently done more with those late 1s and 2s than most other teams in the league. You can’t deny this without just being willfully ignorant.

          • Herman Bubbert

            Baloney. Examine the record and get your tongue off Ainge’s boots. The failures run a LOT deeper than J.R. Giddens, and he has NOT done consistently more with his draft picks. He’s a middle-of-the-road drafter, record-wise – mediocre – and the guy’s no R.C. Buford. The lies about Ainge as a draft savant – when the record clearly says otherwise – are tiresome and they’re wildly inaccurate. Do your research.

          • stevemb34

            Who said he was RC Buford? I’m saying that most teams draft busts a lot more often. Let’s recap, shall we?

            2003 – Traded 2 picks (16 and 20) for Perk and Marcus Banks. Banks was trash but that’s still a good move. Drafted Brandon Hunter at 56 and he did nothing like most guys at 56. Overall that’s a successful draft

            2004 – Drafted Big Al, Delonte, and Tony Allen in the 1st and got Justin Reed in the 2nd. Reed was the only guy that wasn’t a good NBA player. That’s a great draft.

            2005 – Gerald Green (who dropped to them and had to be taken there) at 18, Ryan Gomes at 50, and Orion Green. Gomes was a good enough player to be a great 2nd round pick and Green was a guy who slid far enough you can’t blame the Cs for taking him and looking at the next 10 picks there wasn’t exactly a stud we missed out on by taking a flyer on the HS kid with hops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NBA_draft .) Not the best draft but getting Gomes at 50 proves my point about Ainge’s ability to find good guys later.

            2006 – Traded our pick for Telfair. This was a DISASTER. Would’ve drafted Foye over Brandon Roy anyway. Also a blunder. He then traded back into the first to get RONDO and grabbed Powe in the 2nd. Despite that awful awufl trade, that’s still a very successful draft.

            2007 – Traded for Ray Allen, used our 2 on Big Baby and also threw away a 2 on Gabe Pruitt. Overall a really good draft.

            2008 – JR Giddens over Deandre Jordan and Mario Chalmers. Everyone knew this was a terrible move at the time. Did trade for Bill Walker at one point too who’s been an okay player in the league. Used the very last pick on Semeh. This was a catastrophic draft.

            2009 – Pick was included in the KG trade. Drafted Lestor Hudson at 58 and he did what most #58 picks do and was trash.

            2010 – Drafted Avery Bradley at 19 with a pile of trash being the next few picks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NBA_draft .) Great pick! Also grabbed Luke Harangody in the 2nd. Overall a solid draft to get such a good role player at 19.

            2011 – Drafted Marshon Brooks at 25 and flipped him for Jajuan Johnson (two turds – there were some better guys available obviously but no one that was as screamingly obvious as Deandre Jordan a few years earlier – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_draft ) and drafted Etwaun Moore at 55. Most guys in those spots aren’t that great so that’s to be expected sometimes.

            2012 – Drafted Sullinger at 21 and played the Fab Melo lottery ticket and lost. That’s a really solid draft for 2 picks in the 20s. Worth a shot on a defensive big like Melo that we’ve all been clamoring for since Perk left. Hindsight’s 20/20 but it was a worthwhile long-shot at the time. Grabbed Kris Joseph in the 2nd who’s been the same (nothing) as everyone picked after him save for Robert Sacre who may as well be nothing. Overall that’s a good draft.

            2013 – Traded the #16 (yet to be seen Lucas Nogiero and two 2s) for Olynyck in a HORRENDOUS draft. Olynyck is one of the better players from that draft as sad as that is.

            So there ya go. That’s a darn solid record over a decade. Sure, there are no franchise players (save for Rondo if you’re really feeling generous) but we were NEVER IN A POSITION TO GRAB ONE! It’s all about context and in the context of where we’ve drafted, his record is really impressive.

          • KGino

            well defended… this bubbert guy acts like every 2nd round pick should be a winner, when in fact if ur 2nd round picks turn into ANYTHING, you did a good job with it

          • stevemb34

            Right? Heck, anything outside of the lottery, you just want a rotation guy in most drafts. Ainge’s record is outstanding when you have the proper context and understanding of which this joke of a commenter has neither.

          • wil

            most of those are actually pretty nice, considering half of those got picked in the 2nd round lol.

            im sorry that we didnt get a superstar with all those late picks

  • forever_green

    If this is a sign of moving on from Rondo, its a big mistake.

  • Mike C

    I hope this kid turns out to be the scoring machine that all these posts claim he will be….Cause at 6’2″ he’s only going to get ONE shot at the basket. My opinion, this was a poor selection. We dont need more guards! We NEED rim protectors and players who can REBOUND the ball! I still hope this is part of a master plan to get Kevin Love. Otherwise its going to be another Very Long season again next year!

    • stevemb34

      Where were the rim protectors at 6 or 17? There weren’t any unless you really wanted to reach on foreigners that may not even come over next year. Just go sign Gortat, or maybe we have another very long season next year and end up with Jahlil Okafor and then we’re truly ready to start ascending. It’s the very ground floor of a rebuilding plan and I couldn’t be happier with the talent we got last night to start the process. And if that’s enough talent to get Love and go that route, that’d be amazing too. I see zero downside from last night.

    • Herman Bubbert

      I hope it’s a prelude to a Rondo deal to recover some front-court assets, Mike. I like the Young pick; but out here in the Midwest folks are laughing at the Celtics for picking a guy best known for his WWF-like flopping on the court, and a very questionable incident in Lubbock where Smart’s version of the story was easily debunked by witnesses.

  • dingding

    the Celtics picks reminds me of JaJuan Johnson (James Young) and E’Twaun Moore (Marcus Smart), lol – where are they now? Ainge

    • stevemb34

      Put down the pipe Tyrone

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