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Report: Celtics pursuit of Kevin Love “gathering momentum”

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) May 18, 2014 Celtics News 61 Comments

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The latest Woj piece on the eventual trade of Kevin Love out of Minnesota centers on the Celtics.

Still, Boston is the sleeper gathering momentum in a process that is still beginning to unfold. The three top prospects in the draft – Kansas’ Joel Embiid and Andrew Wiggins and Duke’s Jabari Parker – could become franchise cornerstone players in the NBA. Nevertheless, Boston has multiple picks to offer in the next several years as part of a total package for Love, as well as the salary-cap space to perhaps take back an unwanted contract from Minnesota.

Love’s agent Jeff Schwartz and Ainge have a strong relationship and a good working history. Ainge helped another Schwartz client, Paul Pierce, get to a preferred trade destination in Brooklyn a year ago. The Celtics believe they can sell Love on becoming the next big Celtics star, and all the adulation that comes with that for a franchise that has won 17 NBA championships.

The piece suggests the Celtics falling to the 5th pick could still be a high enough lottery pick for the Timberwolves to bite on the right package.  What that package would have to include, I’m not sure, but I assume there would have to be multiple draft picks involved from the C’s stockpile, a few of our non-guaranteed deals, and at least one of either Jared Sullinger or Kelly Olynyk.

I simply cannot believe that the Celtics and Timberwolves could repeat history like this.  For the few of you who don’t remember how Kevin Garnett got here, it’s because the Celtics fell to the 5th pick (which actually got traded to Seattle for Ray Allen) and put together a package for Minnesota that included a promising young forward named Al Jefferson.

I would hate to see Sullinger or Olynyk go in this scenario.  And I’m not sure if another player or contract would have to be involved on Minnesota’s side.  But if we’re able to pair Love and Rondo together, it’d go a long way in getting the Celtics back into the top half of playoff seeds.  They’d have two legitimate All Stars playing in their prime.  A trade this summer for Love could be part of a set of moves that bring the Celtics back there next season.

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  • chris

    yessss. k love is the first shoe to drop, maybe monroe or melo follows.

    • Fitzy

      Praying Danny somehow brings melo here if he gets love.

      • KGino

        Can’t down vote this enough

        • Fitzy

          That’s your opinion, I much prefer that to any of these people begging for an Asik/Lin trade. Tell me where most defensive centers who are an offensive liability are drafted. We can get an Asik without the help of Daryl morey and not give up any asserts for him.

          • Curt Hays

            And many of us agree with @kgino:disqus. There are certain players that we as Celtic fans simply do not want. For example, I would NOT have taken Kobe Bryant in 2009 when KG went down. I’d rather lose.

          • Fitzy

            lol I’ve been a celtics fan since 2008 (call me a bandwagoner if you want, attended my first NBA game then suns Vs. celtics, fell in love with the garden faithful) and have dedicated my basketball life since then to the Celtics; I also grew up in Canada so I didn’t really start having a vested interest in basketball until then. Ever since I’ve got to one or two marquee match-ups a year and have even been to a celtics-lakers final game (shrek-donkey game) I am fully aware of Celtic pride. I would still take have taken Kobe though (for the right price). Ray Allen could offer the vet minimum next year and I wouldn’t take him back. In saying that, Melo averaged 27 a game this year, if you can get him for a mix of Jeff Green, Picks, expirings, that TPE and it’s all to convince Kevin Love to stay here… YOU DO IT.

          • Curt Hays

            I’m trying to agree with you. It’s tough. Haha. Props to you for being at the Shrek/Donkey game. I watched every minute of that season.

          • Fitzy

            Props to my dad for getting the tix at a bargain price (15 rows off the court; practically stole them!) Ever since 2008 I watched probably 90-95% of celtic basketball except this season as I’m living in france doing a semester abroad. KG and Paul taught me a lot of lessons in life and basketball. Wish we could have watched them retire here, but we got the godfather offer.

          • Curt Hays

            Have an upvote.

            Also, not going to lie, I continue to be inspired by Ray Allen.

            …and I have been a Celtics-only fan since childhood.

          • Fitzy

            haha some of us aren’t as forgiveful as others!

          • Curt Hays

            Yeah, I don’t expect a ton of upvotes for that one.

          • Fitzy

            lol hey man, I was at the Ray Allen return game/find out Rondo tore his ACL and there was certainly a lot of love in the crowd for Ray. Boston sees the bigger picture.

      • zippittyay

        As Donny Marshall once famously said “I wouldn’t trade a bag of basketballs for Carmelo Anthony”.

        • Fitzy

          I’d use the traded player exception (effectively not a bag of basketballs). I’d also throw in Jeff Green for good measure considering no one here thinks he can be a 1st or 2nd option. I’d do a melo/love/rondo big 3 seven days a week, and twice on sundays. Keep our 18th pick and use that to get a project athletic centreman. Then the ring chasers will come.

          • zippittyay

            That worked so well for the Knicks.

          • Fitzy

            I’d only go after melo in the event we get kevin Love. You get melo; Love and Rondo are not going anywhere (in my opinion). The knicks certainly didn’t have a PG the caliber of Rondo and certainly not a PF the caliber of Love. Add into that the ticking time bomb JR Smith is and you get what you saw there this year, let’s not forget they actually gave up assets to acquire ANDREA BARGNANI.

          • KGino

            Melo = Cancer. The only way I would even consider the thought of him in green is if he agreed to be our sixth man.

          • Curt Hays

            Tonight’s Headline: “KG calls Melo a Cancer Patient”

            Actual story: Reds Army celebrity, @kgino:disqus, calls Carmelo cancerous to his team.

          • Fitzy

            if Melo is the cancer you say he is it would be reasonable to say he would have been lagging through this season and moaning to the media. Which he didn’t do. The sheer fact that you think a SF who averaged 27 and 8 (career high in rebounds btw) shows that you hold some sort of grudge against him. Sure he demanded a trade, but you live and you learn. Everyone in Boston is talking about a new big three, this is about as close as you’re going to get, not sure what else you want. Go to iso scorer, pass first PG, stretch four who rebounds and is the best outlet passer in the league. IMO all you need to add to that is a SG who we can run off screens and a defensive center in the mold of birdman but younger and not a drug addict.

          • Curt Hays

            Well, I think the deal is that a lot of us don’t like the type of player Carmelo is. Hell, I don’t even like the type of player Dirk is. We like guys who inspire us. Big Baby is still one of my favorite players of all time. I’d rather have Baby than Bass, and we all know that Bass has actually played VERY well.

          • Fitzy

            I can see that, I’m not sure how I feel about baby. I mean he started out really well but then in his mind he became greater than the team. (similar IMO to what Lance Stephenson is doing in Indiana. chasin those dolla dolla bills) and I think you can even see that in LA with Doc needing to have team security escort him back. I agree you need players who inspire, motor is big. but I just don’t think IF and it’s a HUGE if we get Love that Boston will have another shot at forming a big 3 for a long while. Realistically look at the market, see who’s available and who’s going to become available.

          • KGino

            The grudges I have against him: 1.) He doesn’t play defense. 2.) Volume shooter/iso player 3.) Awful attitude.

            So in your opinion, all we need one of the best PF’s in the league, one of the top scorers in the league, an SG like ray allen, and a young defensive center? Yes, I think that’s everyones opinion, lol.

            We already have an SG that runs off screens, shoots well (and getting better), and is one of the best defensive players at his position. Sure he’s injury prone, but if you want Melo Rondo and K Love on the same team you BEST have lockdown defenders at the 2 and 5.

            And zippittyay, that’s probably the only intelligent thing Donny Marshall has ever said in his life lol

          • Fitzy

            lol it’s easy to say Ray Allen; personally I would say a stauskas (too early with our lotto/too late with our 17th) or JJ Reddick brand of player. Doesn’t need to be arguably the most prolific 3 pt shooter in NBA history. Sure keep Bradley and hope he continues to grow but I’m not sure if that will happen or not, hindsight; isn’t it beautiful. The 2 needs to be a lockdown, the 5 needs to be a rotational defender. Doesn’t necessarily need to be 1 on 1 lockdown considering (for the most part) there’s a complete lack of true centers in the east. Rondo was all-defensive a few years ago. Don’t see why he can’t regain that form or at least partially get back to that level(Stevens needs to stop the gambling habit he’s obtained since Bradley has arrived). It’s certainly everyones opinion, but when do you ever have a chance to ever execute on an idea especially one with a haul like this. Again, EXTREMELY unlikely, but i’m hoping this is Danny’s end game, it’s our best shot at the moment and could be for a while yet.

        • adam

          how about a washing machine?

  • MisterTTT35

    I’d have absolutely no problem giving up Kelly Olnyk

    • MatthewWilding

      I can’t even believe anyone suggested that giving up KO in a deal for Kevin Love would resemble unfortunate.

      • Herman Bubbert

        You’re here, aren’t you?

        Perfect trade for the Celtics. Tell Rondo, “There’s your help. Now, let’s do a deal.”

        If he insists on free agency, send him to Minny too and ask for Rubio in return.

        • http://redsarmy.com/ John Karalis

          Players who want max deals have to go to free agency to get more money.

          Debate whether he deserves it if you want, but he’s going to be a free agent and not sign an extension because that’s the way he gets more money

          • Fitzy

            Or we force him to opt-in (ala dwight) and then force him to sign an extension so we have his bird rights.

    • Curt Hays

      I don’t have a BIG problem with giving him up for Love, but I do have a small one. I like the players we have. I don’t like the losses. I care about wins the most, but I really like Olynyk’s game as a Celtic.

      • Kenney Johnston

        Dont trade AB, KO or Rondo to get KLove. If KO is a dealbreaker, keep Sully; pose matchup problems like crazy, strong rebounding and outlet skills, with that team you almost have to keep Jeff inless you can get Jabari

        • Curt Hays

          I like it. But I don’t think keep Jeff Green is super important. Brandon Bass can handle his defensive roll.

  • Brian Pahlm

    Asik and parsons would bring it all together. The Rockets want cap space to sign melo. By taking asik and parsons for bass and a pick in a lop sided deal you then use the pierce exemption for lin. We don’t need lin but we got the cap space to take him and it’s the only way you could get your hands on parsons.

  • Jimbo

    Didn’t love say he wants to be part of a contending team? Celtics definitely don’t look like they will be before a while If love wanted to join a rebuilding team he’d prolly just go to his first choice the lakers. Or just stay in Minnesota because neither will be in the playoffs for yrs lol

  • forever_green

    Yes, do it. Even more reason to bring Paul back.

  • Mike C

    If Celtics fans want to see Rondo break every assist record in the books, then get Kevin Love to come to Boston! My gut tells me he’s going to LA though.

  • bill_nair

    Mediocrity here we come.

  • Jester00

    Jeff Green and any picks and any one not named Rondo

    sorry Sully even you may have to go

  • Jake Gruber

    Though I have no problem with a deal because I have no ties to anyone on the celtics current roster, I’m just not totally sure where this incredible optimism comes from that Kevin love will turn a franchise around. He’s a great player, but have we failed to realize that it seems his teams in Minnesota always underachieved? Or at least were just mediocre?

  • adam

    am i the only one who rather have a top 5 pick then get rid of what we got right now? i rather see us as the thunder who built in the draft then going out and getting big names if it means giving up young studs. although if we could get him for a combo or green, bass, vitor, bogans etc i would do it

    • bill_nair

      I’d trade the 5th pick for Love but it doesn’t help us out much. Love is the Ray Allen of the big 3. Unfortunately we don’t have Pierce and there’s no player out there half as good as KG was on D. Maybe our future picks and young talent but I surely don’t give up the top 3 pick. Rondo and Love gets us to two ECF tops.

      • Curt Hays

        You don’t think Noah or Drummond would be like KG? Noah is the closest in the league.

        • bill_nair

          To be more clear, I dont think their is a KG available for us. Not at the moment. Id love to add Noah or Drummond.

          • Curt Hays

            They’re always available! :-)

          • bill_nair

            Ya but clogging the cap with Green, Rondo, Love and said Center doesnt give me much confidence. Who knows, a top 3 pick ends a lot of this speculation.

          • Curt Hays

            Of course they’d be tough to get. Drummond has a small contract. Jeff Green would definitely have to go and so would Brandon Bass. You’re right, I just wanted to make sure that you respect to those guys as well as I thought you would.

          • bill_nair

            Definitely I worded it completely wrong.

    • Curt Hays

      “Love set an NBA record in 2013–14, becoming the first player in NBA history to record 2,000 points, 900 rebounds and 100 3-pointers in a single season.”

      • adam

        yeah, and how good were the timber wolves over the past couple years. yes he is only 1 player, but has he made them that much better? i’m just saying I think maybe we get 5-10 more wins with him? and 10 is pushing it. don’t know if the risk is worth the reward.

        • Curt Hays

          We wouldn’t only be getting Kevin Love. We’d be getting Kevin Love with Rajon Rondo on the court. Kevin Garnett hardly took them anywhere…

          • adam

            and melo?

          • Curt Hays

            Right now, I’d rather have Fab Melo. I don’t watch the Mavs because of Dirk. I wouldn’t enjoy Carmelo in green unless he starts playing defense like we know he can.

          • adam

            I remember when the nuggets played the Lakers (Eastern conf. finals) and Melo played some good D on Kobe. he can play it if he wants….. that’s the problem, if he wants.

          • Curt Hays

            Yep. Frustrating. He MIGHT do it. But idk if the ghost of Red is enough to make it happen. If he goes to Chicago and Thibs makes him play D…I’ll be PISSED.

          • adam

            I would be too. That would make Chicago a threat.

  • Jester00

    Celtics don’t forget they have a $10.7M trade exception from Nets trade. It does run out 7-12.

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