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Your Morning Dump… Where Doc Rivers and the Clippers got robbed

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Rivers, however, wasn’t going to stay quiet. Not after the hotly contested out-of-bounds ruling contributed to the Clippers surrendering a seven-point lead in the final 49.2 seconds of the 105-104 loss. Not after the Thunder’s improbable victory left the Clippers down 3-2 and a loss from elimination in the best-of-seven series.

“It was our ball,” Rivers said. “Everybody knows that it was our ball. I think the bottom line they thought it was a foul and they made up for it. In my opinion, let’s take away replay. Let’s take away the replay system because that’s our ball. We win the game and we got robbed because of that play.

“It’s clear. Everybody in the arena saw it. That is why everybody was shocked when they said Oklahoma City [ball]. That was our ball.”

“The league can issue a statement tomorrow saying the ball was off them,” Paul said. “Who gives a …. We lost.”

Rivers and Paul said they were told by the referees that they didn’t have the right replay to change the call. That contention is likely what sparked Rivers to yell at Bennett, the Thunder owner, after the game.

“We did a lot of stuff in the game ourselves,” Rivers said. “But at the end of the day, we have a replay system that you’re supposed to look at it. I don’t want to hear that they didn’t have that replay. That’s a bunch of crap.”

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Wow… Even I feel bad for Doc Rivers. The Clippers got hosed.

Doc is spot on. Replay is destroying an age old referee trick, “we missed the foul but we’ll give you the ball out of bounds to make up for it.”

How awesome was Doc in that press conference? Just releasing pure, honest emotion in an articulate way.

Doc was always good with the media here in Boston. Except when he was lying to us telling us that he wanted to be a Celtic for life following his contract extension.

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  • Step

    Clips may have gotten hosed, but after watching the video there were so many failure plays on both teams where the outcome could have gone either way.

    1st off, letting the Thunder get within 2(before the review play) was all on the Clips. There are a bunch of what if’s, but the one thing that the players can control are their own TO’s. We know to well that those type of calls happen all the time.

  • tvor03

    Clippers didn’t get hosed. Yeah, it looks like the ball went off Jackson. But that call had nothing to do with Paul trying to hoist a three 50-feet from the basket and then turning it over when he should have just taken the foul. The call had nothing to do with Paul fouling Westbrook behind the arc. And that call had nothing to do with sloppy ball handling on their last possession. This loss falls on one person and one person only and that’s Chris Paul. And he was man enough to own up to it, which I respect. He made 3 horrible decisions under 20 seconds and it cost them the game.

    • Step

      Hit it right on the head. He said it himself that the 3 attempt of his was one of his dumbest plays. I’m glad he owned up to that aspect. Doc is good for deflecting from his players (he did it all the time), but let’s not act like his pg wasn’t the catalyst in this breakdown.

      • LA Flake

        Y’all are crazy. The refs determined the outcome of the game with that call and the Clips got royally screwed. End of story.

        NOTE TO CHUCK: Let it go, bruh. We got Brad Stevens who is happy to be here. And we have their 1st round pick.

        • tvor03

          The Clippers were still up 2 with only 11 seconds left, so they still had the advantage. All they had to do was play solid defense, and unfortunately they didn’t.

          • LA Flake

            What you and Step are saying is true. But that ball still belonged to the Clippers. Forget the foul because those incompetent refs miss calls all the time (Chris Paul was fouled on the very last play, too). But they had a chance to review the play to see who touched the ball last and it clearly went off of that OKC guard as Matt Barnes never even touched the ball.

            So, you give the ball back to LAC. They get to take it out of bounds, up 2 with 11 seconds to go. It’s a totally different ball game.

            From now on, Adam Silver and Stu Jackson should promote their feature games thusly: “It’s the Clippers in a do or die game against the rising Thunder! Tune in this Thursday to watch the league MVP Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul and Blake Griffin take on Steve Javie, Marc Davis and Joey Crawford!”

          • tvor03

            Steve Javie’s retired.

        • Step

          So the refs made CP3 try to draw contact from Russell, which resulted in the ball getting stolen and Jackson going to the basket, which resulted in the call? Wow…the refs have their hands in everything.

    • Curt Hays

      Ehh, they still got hosed. Paul cost them the game, but the refs ruined it. I will not watch any more basketball this season because of how terrible this was.

      Westbrook was ice effing cold for the way he ended the game, but the refs have ruined it for me. It’s like 2010 all over again.

    • bill_nair

      Glad someone else saw it. Almost like people only watched the final 20 seconds of the game.

  • dk

    I wonder if Doc was having flashbacks to Game 7 2010 Finals with that game…..

  • RedsLoveChild

    Doc is rightfully pissed because….without warning, Chris Paul picked the absolute worst time to turn into Sebastian Telfair.

    • Curt Hays

      LOL, “without warning”

  • Andre

    Doc seems fairly certain with his statements but a player’s hand is considered part of the ball and Jackson’s right hand was clearly on the ball and was smacked….It really could be called either way. Comparing this to the GS call while they’re similar they are clearly different based on the law of the land.

  • tvor03

    It would have been hilarious if Doc, before he said a word in the press conference, whipped out his checkbook, wrote a check for $25,000, and smacked it on the table. Then proceeded on his rant. Let the league know, “I know I’m gonna get fined for this, and I don’t care one bit.”

    • LA Flake

      They should really do something about the refs because too much of this game has become all about the refs and no one is happy.

      I’m telling you the game would vastly improve if they go with the 2-1 crew: 2 on the floor and 1 at the scorer’s table for quick reviews. Sure they’ll miss a ton of calls but the game would become slightly more physical and as a result the intensity level would rise, too.

      • tvor03

        I’d go 3-1, but yeah, I agree there needs to be a designated replay official.

        • LA Flake

          3 refs are too many. 2 refs will eliminate ticky tack fouls and crap like that. The third ref can just watch the game on TV at the scorer’s table until he is needed to review something but there has to be a time limit (30 seconds?) on how long he can review the play. This will make the game more physical and chippy which will make it highly intense and entertaining. And with their flagrant foul rules in effect, more physical games won’t mean more injuries. Us fans will have to just live with a lot of no calls but seriously, what would you prefer: constant stoppage and uneven calls or just a whole lotta no calls and letting the players play? It’s a no-brainer to me.

          • Mike C

            Hell Yeah Flake! Totally agree, lets get back to playing REAL basketball! Doc Would have been really pissed last night if “No-Touch” Lebron would have been involved in that play! It would have been a ‘Flagrant Foul’, freethrow and ball out of bounds!

          • tvor03

            No way the NBA allows the game to get physical and chippy. There will always be at least 3 refs on the floor. And 30 second limit sounds fine to me. Shouldn’t even take that long most cases.

  • Curt Hays

    FYI, I read D’Amico’s piece on the Celtics team awards. I’ve decided that, smart and good at reporting as he may be, most of the Reds Army writers are far better writers than he is.

    AND, I disagree with Jeff Green being MVP.

    • bill_nair

      Just curious in your opinion who was MVP?

      • KGino

        Brad Stevens MVP

        • bill_nair

          Love it!

      • eddysamson

        Brandon Bass, Humphries, Avery Bradley, anyone is better than Green.

      • Curt Hays

        Brad Stevens

        • Curt Hays

          Oh, haha, @kgino:disqus beat me to it.

          I just didn’t think anyone was valuable really. Probably Sully, if anyone. Maybe Steez. But you have to define MVP. Are we talking “best player” or most valuable. Value has to be defined as getting what you want out of the season. Maybe Jeff Green WAS the MVP since he started every game and basically underperformed — which helped us tank.

      • frickenWaaaltah

        I think it’s ok not to name an MVP, because there kind of wasn’t any stand out answer, and because the year was so weak overall.

        Stevens is the clever answer yet the thing is, there’s that P in the MVP…but I guess that’s just my inner stickler for details complaining; I suppose it’d be satisfied if people gave Stevens ‘Boston Celtic of the Year’ or something like that.

        • bill_nair

          Completely agree. I posed the question to see different responses cause I didn’t believe any single one person was the MVP. I do wonder how many games we lose if we don’t have Brad though?

          • frickenWaaaltah

            I think maybe a few more losses, but eh, I’m ok with that. The team came out of the gates pretty well and got some wins while other teams were getting their act together.

            On the upside, the fanbase got some reasons for confidence in him. Turning Steez loose at the point worked out brilliantly and it was fun while it lasted. And overall, basketball karma was well served and the franchise honor reasonably well enough maintained in a bad season.

  • bill_nair

    So were gonna blame the refs for the clips blowing a double digit lead with 3 minutes to go? That was a questionable call but let’s not act like they didn’t blow that game. Rec league style play down the stretch from the clips cost them.

  • KGino

    Cry me a River, Doc. I woulda liked to see that much emotion when Rondo got whacked across the face in Game 2 vs the Heat (his 44 point game, should have been 46 and a W). Bottom line is you can’t get outscored 8-0 in the final 44 seconds of a game and blame it on one call, especially when they took away a POSSESSION and not POINTS (like rondo scenario I pointed out earlier).

    Could you imagine a Clippers/Heat final? People flopping everywhere, constant crazy transition dunks do to the retreating defense crying to the refs on every play… That series would set basketball back 10 years

    • bill_nair

      As terrible a non-call on that Rondo play was, we didn’t blow that game. We were fighting to win. The clips were up double digits with a couple minutes left and BLEW it. Blaming the refs is asinine if anyone watched the final few minutes.

  • txceltic

    If you look close enough at the replay, as much as I didn’t like it, the actually goes off of Chris Paul’s forearm and not Jackson. Don’t believe me just take a closer look. Chris paul was in all the wrong spots at the wrong times.

  • frickenWaaaltah

    Team MVP should be one of those awards where whoever you think it should be,
    you know right away. You don’t have to think about who you would vote
    for you just know already, no head scratching, muttering, and deep
    thoughts required. If not, then there kind of just wasn’t one.

    It’s funny to think of season team awards like
    PSN/Xbox achievements. You only hand out the ones people earn, and
    there should always be a moment you can point to when you hear a little
    ‘ding’ and see the “achievement unlocked: ________” popup.

  • frickenWaaaltah

    About Doc and the Clippers…honestly, this is one of Doc’s less endearing coaching personality traits, and one I realize now I was pretty tired of.

    I still find it cringe worthy to see Doc burning the refs so hard in a post-game press conference, but at least the team it’s going to come back on now is the Clippers and not the Celtics.

    I would have rather heard him say something like ‘well, I’m still angry and I haven’t seen all the replays yet, so I don’t want to talk about it. Ask me tomorrow. What I know right now is that down the stretch, we were all over the place, and we didn’t hit our shots and that’s not how you win games.’

    07-08 Doc was all about ubuntu and team execution of the game plan.