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Your Morning Dump… Where Rondo’s rank is in question


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Prior to Rajon Rondo’s torn right ACL injury, he was widely considered one of the top five point guards in the NBA.

Today, he may not even be in the top 10.

There’s little doubt that Rondo will be a better player next season as his legs continue to get stronger. But even with stronger wheels, Rondo will hard-pressed to regain a spot among the elite point guards in the NBA.

The first round of the playoffs was a coming out party of sorts for point guards such as Portland’s Damian Lillard, Washington’s John Wall, Memphis’ Mike Conley and Atlanta’s Jeff Teague.

They join an already crowded VIP club of playmakers that’s led by Los Angeles Clippers Chris Paul, Oklahoma City’s Russell Westbrook and Golden State’s Stephen Curry.

And let’s not forget about Brooklyn’s Deron Williams, Cleveland’s Kyrie Irving or San Antonio’s Tony Parker who has been the best player for the Spurs the past couple of years.

CSNNE – Rondo still a top 10 point guard in the NBA?

With an early start to the offseason you’re likely going to see a lot of posts and discussion points like the one above.  Is Rondo still a top 10 point guard?  Such are the “issues” that are brought up during the “waiting-for-the-lottery” period.  But let’s entertain it anyway, shall we?  As always, a lot of it depends on the makeup of the rest of the team and what type of PG you prefer to have.  Do you want a scorer? Then Rondo won’t rank high on your list.  Do you want a distributor and big time playoff performer?  Well, he’s definitely up there.  The problem is, we’ve now been robbed of two consecutive years of Playoff Rondo while several other elite point guards, have blown up the playoff scene.

The last we saw of Rondo in the playoffs was in 2012 when he nearly lead the Celtics past Miami.  If you factor in his elbow injury in 2011, we’ve only seen Playoff Rondo for 4 series since the 2010 NBA Finals.  So right now, a huge function of this is due to the fact that a lot of the guys listed above are playing now and playing well.  Guys like Curry, Parker, Chris Paul and Westbrook have all played a lot of playoff games since Rondo’s brilliance was last seen.  Now, Damian Lillard has taken that torch and setting fire to the playoffs.

Meanwhile, another guy who wasn’t even mentioned above is in a similar boat than Rondo and that’s Derrick Rose.  Both have a lot to prove to show they are still at that level.  It’s a fun argument to have, and there is no bigger lightning rod on the C’s than Rondo, it’s more of a function of biding time until the lottery in a couple of weeks.  Until then, have fun with lists like these.

Page 2: One-on-One with Phil Pressey

Speaking of point guards, Marc D’Amico on recently chatted with C’s backup Phil Pressey:

The rest of the links:

CSNNE – Rockets expected to have interest in Rondo

ESPN Boston – Report card: The braintrust | Reflections after report cards – Celtics Mailbag: The Waiting Game

Boston Globe – Celtics looking for anthem singers

MassLive – Dwyane Wade thought Miami Heat had buried Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett after 2012 playoffs

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  • Rob

    As a die-hard Celtics fan, I think the Celtics should trade everyone except for Phil Pressey, Jared Sullinger, Kelly Olynyk, Kris Humphries and Gerald Wallace. This team needs a new face and a fresh start.

    • tvor03

      you’d keep Wallace? I guess the argument can be made for not having Rondo on your rebuild team, but why keep Wallace?

      • Thatguy

        Probably because he’s currently not tradable, that and he’s an expiring contract… Eventually. (Not that I agree, just a few thoughts)

      • Rob

        Wallace plays with a lot of energy off the bench and he can pass and defend. The only that is burdening is his salary. But aside from that, I believe he is a piece that any team needs in order to win a championship.

    • RedsLoveChild

      With a “core” group like this…you`re looking at a 3-79 season!

      • bill_nair

        Tanking for Okafor?

        • RedsLoveChild

          That`s the only way it makes any sense.

      • Rob

        I didn’t say they were going to be the core, I believe that they are the future. We can draft a player that can change the future of this team. If you watched Rondo’s game after his injury, he became selfish and I think his teammates knew that and didn’t like that. + Rondo is not getting any younger. Jeff is so inconsistent and Bass too. Bradley is too expensive. Bayless, Vitor, Joel Anthony and Chris Johnson are 50/50 options. Again, we need Danny to make some risky moves to improve this franchise.

        • RedsLoveChild

          I expect Boston to trade Rondo…Bass and Humpries are easily replaceable by cheaper players…no trade market exists for Green…Pressey has no NBA future…Wallace is washed up.

          Bradley overestimates his value and will drop his price, or else Bayless gets his job…Sully is good but he must immediately drop the excess fat…Kelly O has true potential…Johnson was a pleasant surprise…Vitor deserves a longer look.

  • eddysamson

    I’m getting access denied when I click the link to the piece on Pressey

    • Jay O

      Try it now, should be fixed

  • adam

    Paul Pierce never got the respect he deserved until the big 3 era, Rondo will probably not get it either now that he isn’t surrounded by PP, KG, RA. That is okay with me. We know how good he is by watching him nigh-in and night-out.

  • KGino

    Point Guard is easily the most loaded position in the NBA. But in terms of making his teammates better on offense, there may be no better PG than Rondo

    • tvor03

      I agree. One of the biggest knocks on him was he only got those high assist numbers because he was playing with three HOFers. Well, the Big 3 are all gone now, and even playing with no star and 14 glorified bench players, he still averaged a hair under 10 assists a game. That’s coming off injury and under restrictive minutes. There is no player better at knowing where to put the ball to make the play.

      • Curt Hays

        And how have all those stars done without him?

        • Excellent point Curt. It makes you think that (at least to some degree) he extended the careers of those players because of his abilities as a distributor.

  • bill_nair

    I’d say he’s in that second tier of PG (not elite but still all-stars) but I hate when people put Rose (who hasn’t played in years) ahead of him and guys like Teague cause he smoked George Hill for 7 games.

    Either way he’s a great PG but not the franchise player we need. Let’s hope Danny can put a big and a scorer around him.

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  • Paul Yee

    also no mention of Lowry, Dragic, or Bledsoe. Rondo’s got some work to do regain All-Star status.

    • Brad P

      If he tries, he’ll easily be an All-Star next year. Remember he’s playing in the East.