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Your Morning Dump… Where Avery Bradley reportedly wants $8 million per year

Chuck - Red's Army December 13, 2013 Avery Bradley, Celtics News, Danny Ainge, The Morning Dump 38 Comments

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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump. 

A source said the Celtics are “going to make a lot of moves in the next year.” While the source said Courtney Lee, Gerald Wallace and Kris Humphries are on the market, the team’s biggest personnel question this season revolves around Avery Bradley, who they feel is their starting shooting guard for the future.

In fact, that’s why, according to a source, the Celtics offered him a four-year, $24 million deal (with a team option on the fourth year) this past offseason, but he turned it down. That’s because he wants at least $8 million per year, which another source confirmed. Bradley will be a restricted free agent next summer, so things could get “tricky,” as one source said, for the Celtics to keep him.

While Bradley had been considered limited offensively coming into this season, he has improved in that category from November to December. So far this month, he’s averaging 15.2 points per game while shooting 50 percent from the field and 60 percent from three-point range.

Bradley is reading pick-and-rolls better and showing a craftier and smoother touch with his pull-ups off the dribble. He’s become a knock-down outside shooter playing off temporary point guard Jordan Crawford. Defensively, Bradley is arguably the best perimeter defender in the game with his timing, long arms, quick lateral movement and consistent full-court ball pressure.

Bleacher Report

I love Avery Bradley’s game but $8 million per season makes me cringe. That’s Jeff Green money and my head nearly exploded upon hearing news of that contract.

Let’s look at the market. Here are some other shooting guards making approximately $8 million per season [NBA Salaries]:

DeMar Derozan: $9.5 million

Rodney Stuckey: $8.5 million

Marcus Thornton: $8 million

OJ Mayo: $8 million

Aron Afflalo: $7.5 million

Wes Matthews: $6.8 million

Bradley will likely never be the volume scoring threat those guys are, but he’s the best defensive player in the bunch and it’s not close.

On the bright side, the Celtics and Bradley are only $2 million apart per year.

Restricted free-agents rarely move, so I expect AB to be wearing green next season. If his play continues to improve, he’ll get his money.

On Page 2, Danny Ainge says the playoffs are not the goal.

 

“It’s not only a matter of expecting how you see your team forming. But in terms of the record and what place we are in the division, those all have factors to do with everybody else in the league,” he said. “I’m not really worried about records or things I can’t control, there are things I am seeing in our wins and I’m very pleased with our coaching staff and with our players.”

If the Celtics reach the playoffs, their own first-round pick will be no higher than 15th, meaning they would fall out of the lottery and likely would miss out on a chance to draft franchise player. Ainge said he hasn’t thought about the Celtics making a playoff push.

“I don’t know, because there’s too many variables, it’s just not that simple,” he said about the postseason. “Making the playoffs is not a goal. I need to explain that a little bit. If there’s a bunch of teams that are just injured and playing and you finish five, six, or seven games under .500 and you made the playoffs just because of that, that might not be such a great thing. I’m only concerned about how our players are playing, and if it so happens we make the playoffs and we earn our way and our guys are getting better, then I’m thrilled.

“We’re not excited about being 10-14. That doesn’t bring excitement to anybody, but progress does.”

Boston Globe

Whoa, Danny. Be careful with your words. GIF: David Stern Chokes on Some Water   on Twitpic

Those comments are enough to fuel the tankeratti and make David Stern choke on his water (it actually happened last night in Brooklyn).

Ainge was smart enough to clarify his statement. He’s also not thinking about the playoffs because it’s likely the Nets, with a healthy Deron Williams, claim the top spot in the Atlantic Division.

We need to hook up Danny to a lie detector machine to get his unvarnished reaction to the team’s start.

Q. Did you think this roster was capable of starting the season 10-14?

A. Hell no.

We might hear more talk of “progress” and “long term” come the trade deadline if Ainge makes deals (Crawford, Bass or Green) that hinder the team’s chances of winning games this year in return for salary cap and roster flexibility.

The rest of the links:

ESPN Boston – Mailbag: Divining Crawford’s future | All-Star 1st returns | CSNNE – Green starting to show consistency | Crawford keeping this team going | Rondo still getting AS votes | Stevens continues to impress others around NBA

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  • NE_Celt

    Danny hooked up to a lie detector…brilliant. I’ll get the van and ski masks…who has the chloroform and lie detector…lets do this!

  • ron

    Give that kid the extra 2 million a year. He’s only gonna get better in years to come

  • bill_nair

    Welp may be time to look at deals for Bradley. I cant believe any Celtics fan no matter how biased towards Bradley thinks hes worth that much. Half the fans barely want Jeff green and hes putting up better numbers at about the same price. $6 mill per is good until he becomes a more consistent threat on offense.

    I get what Danny is saying and I tend to agree. Making the playoffs with a record under .500 just means the competition in your conference was as bad or worse. We might make the playoffs but were not playoff good. Im guessing he moves Jeff and/or Crawford.

    • bill_nair

      To be fair, I would rather pay Bradley the 8 mill than everyone on that list accept Afflalo.

      • Curt Hays

        I’d like to point out that Derozan is the best guy on that list.

        • ian

          Id like to point out that thats entirely false.

        • bill_nair

          Completely agree to disagree.

          • Curt Hays

            Interesting that no one feels like using data to disagree with my Derozan comment.

            And now for something completely different, I do see that Bill, who guesses that Jeff or Steez will be traded, may be right about the moves this year. I hate the thought of tanking, but it IS pretty dumb to make it to the playoffs with a sub .500 record…NO VALUE AT ALL. Short term sucks, long term suck.

          • bill_nair

            He’s a career 26% 3pt shooter. At the 2 spot, shooting is kind of important. While having a career year his per is 17.6. Has never had a higher per than 14 (Crawford has a career PER avg of 14). Has a career avg Drtg of 111 per 100 possessions which is worse than everyone on this roster (minus rookies). Ya hes had a solid 26 games this year but ill take the other 304 hes played as a more definitive view of who he is.

          • Curt Hays

            I also didn’t compare his stats to everyone to make an arguement, but if we did get into it I would support the fact that it is the team he has been on. He has a high ceiling, like Steez. When he leaves Toronto, we’ll hopefully all see how great he is. Though I am afraid that he’ll end up being a shooting guard version of Jeff Green…

          • bill_nair

            Agree 100%. He reminds me so much of Jeff Green. I just thinking his lack of shooting is what hurts him and is why i personally am not a fan of him. Put him next to a player like cp3 and I think he would be looked at differently. He’s always reminded me of dwade without the intensity and play making ability.

          • Curt Hays

            The last time I attend a Toronto game (against the Mavs), he and Jose Calderon torched the Mavs. I think Demar was like one or two assists from a triple double and he had 3 or 4 steals. Granted, even Marquis Daniels played like that for stretches (as a Mav). I may be exaggerating, but you get my point, the potential is there.

          • bill_nair

            To be fair, I didnt compare his stats to those listed so I may not have a fight in this debate. But compared to the guards on our roster and what this team needs I just dont think hes a fit. Solid role player.

  • adam

    Well good new, David Stern is out soon. And I hear the guy who is assistant thinks on his own feet pretty well. At least that’s what I heard on Holly’s show.

  • Kahnstantine

    I say pay him the $8mil. He’s always had huge upside and after a series of unfortunate injuries to start his career, he’s finally getting back on track. I think by the end of the season paying him will seem like a no-brainer, unless he gets injured again.
    Part of me thinks that his injury history is the only reason he wasn’t extended already; DA wants AB to prove he can play the whole season, and see what he’s capable of.

  • http://www.thegainescollective.com/ Kendra Gaines

    Idk about AB. I think it’s a lot. But I also am a fan of Jeffs contract.

    • Curt Hays

      You mean you are NOT a fan of Jeff’s contract??

      • http://www.thegainescollective.com/ Kendra Gaines

        no. i meant i am a fan of jeff’s contract, so maybe my opinion may not matter. however, i dont think he’s overpaid.

        • Curt Hays

          Of course your opinion matters! You’re in Red’s Army with the rest of us!

  • RedsLoveChild

    Danny Ainge is a deceitful, unscrupulous, unethical snake….in other the words, exactly the kind of GM you pray for when your team needs to tank!!

    Anyone who thinks DA will allow BS {Boy Scout/Brad Stevens} to screw up his master plan of securing a top pick, does NOT know the first thing about Ainge! If BS continues winning at a 42% clip, DA will trade away 2/3 of the roster for future picks by February.

    • Curt Hays

      I’m going to remember this for the rest of the season just so I can give you credit or call you out at the end of the season! I’m REALLY curious to know just what lengths Danny will go to.

      • RedsLoveChild

        LOL!
        Ainge didn`t lose 1 second of sleep when it came to trading away Paul Pierce & Kevin Garnett.

        Trust me….you don`t want to know how low Danny can/will go!!

        • GreenbirdCro

          Man, I just always enjoy your comments. Even when I completely disagree with you. Lolz
          It would be awesome if you could give us a hint why we should trust you so much about Danny. I guess you got some special insight, bro.
          Keep it up, always interesting thoughts… ;)

          • RedsLoveChild

            Thanx, GBC

            All I know is that Danny`s GM style is no different than his playing style was in the 1980`s. He`s just a super fierce, ultra-competitive street-fighter, with a huge chip on his shoulder. If he can break a rule and get away with it, he won`t hesitate.

            He {and Red} screwed with the Blue Jays to become a Celtic in `81. When the Blue Jays sued the Celts for breach of contract, Danny now admits he lied under oath in a deposition!

    • ian

      Yes, Danny will trade away every player we have so we can be a 30 win team with either Jabari Parker or Andrew Wiggins. You are so right.

      • RedsLoveChild

        I said 2/3 of the roster…NOT 3/3 of the roster.

        You would rather be a 30 win team…get perhaps the 12th pick in the draft…and still NOT have Parker or Wiggins?!?

  • CoachAJ

    DeRozan and Afflalo are the only two on that list that I can see as better offensive players than AB. But defensively is where he makes his coin. I say pay him the 8 because he will be much better than this offensively when Rondo returns. AB is quietly turning into an athletic Joe Dumars.
    I see what hyperbole Danny is spinning. Making the playoffs with a losing record does suck, especially when two or three teams out west will have winning records and not make playoffs. But who would havve expected the New York teams to play so bad this early in the season. He is looking at specifically those two teams to move up the win column by the end of the season.
    Still think we will find a taker for Hump, Bogans, Wallace, and Steez/Lee/Bass. Don’t think he is dealing Green at all.

  • Vincent Mullings

    Pay Avery the 8 mil if we can give jeff 9 mil then 8 mil for Avery……priceless

  • Curt Hays

    Jeff Green money…Jeff Green shouldn’t even be earning that much yet.

  • KGino

    I’d take bradley over anyone on that list… So yea, pay the kid his $.

  • Red’s Cigar

    Boom done. Where do we sign?

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  • ian

    Bradley is more valuable to the team than OJ Mayo is to his. I think 8 mil could look like a bargain in a couple years for a 1st team all defender who puts up around 15-18 a game.

  • ian

    I like how people use the Nets finally coming together as proof that we wont make the playoffs. As if there aernt 5 other playoff seeds.