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Rumor: Celtics would consider dealing Wallace, Humphries for Amar’e

Chuck - Red's Army November 20, 2013 Celtics News, Rumors 31 Comments

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Jared Zwerling of Bleacher Report/Turner Sports is the latest to offer up trade rumors involving the Celtics and Knicks. Relax, it doesn’t involve Rondo.

But even if it’s not Rondo, the Celtics are still attractive for the potential of a big man swap, and according to a source close to Gang Green, they might be willing to take on what basically no other team wants: Stoudemire’s $21.7 million and $23.4 million salaries this season and next, respectively.

In that scenario, according to the source, the Knicks would acquire power forward/center Kris Humphries and small forward Gerald Wallace, while the Celtics would lose two massive salaries for one, Stoudemire, who the Celtics would have to retain only until 2015 (Wallace is through 2016). The Celtics also plan on “stinking in 2014-15 anyway,” according to the source close to the team, so Stoudemire’s financial presence wouldn’t necessarily hurt them as they have plenty of salary-cap flexibility and can continue to add roster pieces.

I’m not sold on this deal.

Stoudemire is a walking corpse. Wallace has some value, right?

But this is all about money. Celtics management would prefer to get the bulk of their dead money off the books by the end of 2015.

Zwerling also has insight on the Celtics plans for Avery Bradley:

Interestingly, according to a source familiar with the Knicks’ previous free-agency plans, they and the Celtics actually explored trading Wallace, Humphries and Courtney Lee for Stoudemire and Shumpert over the offseason. Now that the Celtics envision Avery Bradley as their shooting guard for the future—”They like him at $6 million a year,” the source close to the Celtics said—they don’t have a need for Shumpert.

Is Avery Bradley worth $6 million per year? I think so.

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  • eddysamson

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

  • Paul Pierce

    This franchise has been built on defense. And we want a guy who refuses to play it? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • Johnnie

      it’s a cap move, not a product move. i wouldn’t be surprised if amare never suits for the c’s. the idea is more cap space in 2015

  • RedHead617

    I love this proposal, Wallace is an extra year of dead money and we don’t need Humpries whatsoever. My only confusion is the whole “Wallace has some value, right?” line, as Wallace has so much negative value that we’d love to take even Amare’s awful contract to move him. If we can get rid of Courtney Lee for anything expiring I’m even more pleased as he also obviously carries extreme negative value.

    • LA Flake

      I’d do this deal in a heartbeat, too. Granted, Amare’s best years may be behind him but being dealt to us could rejuvenate his career when he plays with Rondo. And Green. Yes. That Green. I think their games will mesh. Even if it doesn’t work out, he’ll be in the final year of his deal next year which is huge.

      Wallace doesn’t want to be here. Let him go back to NY and back up Mr. Honey Nut Cheerios. Though I’d like to see Humphries stick, he’s obviously not in our long term plans. Hump would’ve been great if he was on our team last year though.

      DO IT, DANNY!

      • RedHead617

        I think we’re better serves sitting Amare on the bench, making him miserable and offering a buyout every time his agent complains. We need youth on rookie contracts, not former stars on bloated deals who expect to win right now.

        • LA Flake

          That would mean Rondo has to go, too. I’m not his biggest supporter but I am intrigued by having someone like Amare (healthy) on the team with Rondo.

    • CFH

      Your first line says it all. This isn’t about Wallace and Amare. It’s about Wallace’s contract and Amare’s contract. Amare’s goes away faster. Player-wise, we don’t need either on our rebuilding team… it’s not like the Celtics will be competing for a championship during those guys’ windows.

      Let’s go Danny, clap-clap, clap-clap-clap! Work around that salary cap! That’s what it takes to win in the NBA.

      • RedHead617

        I agree 100%, which is also the same amount of Wallace’s contract that his agent will demand in any buy-out negotiation. If we can clear his contract and Lee’s three years for two bad years of Amare we can hit the free agent market with piles of cash in the same year that Rondo’s deal expires. Maybe the best way to keep our star PG is to add another star at the same time, which demands we rid ourselves of Wallace/Lee’s $17+ million in dead money.

    • Sean McLaughlin

      Wallace definitely has value. Let’s face it, he’s the only Net that’s been contributing for us.

  • Jaedre

    Horrible… Humphries comes off the books after this season anyway. Deal Wallace n Crawford/Bogans and hell no to Amare

    • LA Flake

      Wallace, JCraw and Bogans for what? Wallace’s contract is arguably worse because it’s longer and he’s an inferior player to Amare. If Amare can make a comeback, you’re looking at Rondo, Amare, Green, Sully, Kelly, AB and a truckload of 1st round picks as your building blocks and chips. We’d be in a much better position going forward.

      • frickenWaaaltah

        I don’t believe Amare’s body is ever again going to hold up to playing starter minutes at an NBA schedule pace for more than 3-4 weeks, and even that seems like a really safe guess to me as I write it. Lately I feel like he’ll never again hit 30 minutes in a game more than once in a week.

        Currently, he can get out there and move around for ~15mins but he shouldn’t be out there. I can’t even decide if he’s trending one way or another; maybe him now is him from now on(till he quits or the next injury forces him to quit or his contract expires).

        I think he was on borrowed time before his last contract. It was uninsurable and the Knicks did it anyway. They leaned on him for one fun year and he basically got them Melo, but he played at a pace that probably spent the remainder of what his back and knees etc had.

  • Johnnie

    wallace has no value. he’s the basketball equivalent to steve blass disease. he’s worth a minimum contract at this point in time.

  • Johnnie

    and i’m not sure if courtney lee really has that bad of a contract right now. he’s played very well in a limited role this season. PER approaching 19 right now. i’d honestly start him over bradley right now.

    • Johnnie

      “right now”

  • pierce Hart

    In concerned at the Cs sucking for another year line. We won’t suck with rondo so I predict the guy will be traded at some point. Also if he stays in we suck in his contract year he’ll probably walk. I like the deal in itself though but I feel we really need go find a franchise centre to go along with rondo and pieces like Bradley and sully.

  • MatthewWilding

    I love this deal. Stat is fun when he can stand.

  • MrCuret

    Actually I’d rather them sticking to trade Wallace, Humphries & Courtney Lee for Stoudemire & Shumpert. A backcourt of Rondo, Bradley & Shumpert would be deadly. As far as Stoudemire, I think Rondo can still get something out of him, just like Nash did in Phoenix.

  • Lee in Oregon

    I don’t want anything to do with Amare (unless there’s a time-machine involved that can make him “10-years-ago Amare). I also have no interest in helping the Knicks……watching them suck is enjoyable enough for me.

    Last night’s game was painful enough. The quote where “they plan on sucking next year” was interesting……like they have a choice?

    • jason benn

      helping the knicks with wallaces poison pill contract and hump lol i think we can help them out

  • jason benn

    they have already shown we are about our young talent and prospect picks like fav. even if this trade goes through i wouldnt expect to see statt play at all maybe in a game like against houston where even keith bogans crawled out of his grave to get in the game. id go for it i say, we find some other idiots to take wallaces contract hahahahaha go figure it the knicks, is anyone else not shocked at all??!?!?! though him playing and actually producing would be nice his days are done the only reason he is still in the nba is cuz of his contract i dont see a single team picking him up when this one runs out. teams all want to win nobody NOBODY wants stat and his what used to be called knees now they are called jello….the leg bone is connected to the jello????? stat is garbabge even worse off then how kg n pierce have started the season. it makes sense cuz in way we do clear up one extra year and maybe then somebody by the trade deadline assuming this happens before then, maybe someone who is a contender sees stat as more valuable then they should and take him away too? if danny can get rid of wallaces contract he can get rid of stats contract as well before is due……..my only issue is locker room who wants this guy in the locker room prolly be going off the mouth worse then wallace does when they lose at least wallace would make an appearance.

  • Nathan

    Send hump, wallace, and lee to NY send green to houston, have NY send us Stat and Shump to Houston and have houston send us Asik

  • Jester00

    Now can work in Jeff Green and Bass for some basketballs some where?

  • frickenWaaaltah

    I liked this idea right after the trade went down. Angry people were looking for ways to ditch these two asap and I was one of them.

    Now I’m not so sure. It helps the Knicks more than it helps the Celtics. The C’s might actually be able to do better. They could maybe get a better deal just for Humphries from somewhere this year or just let him walk away. Wallace will be more tradeable next year, and the year after that he’s an ‘expiring contract.’ In the mean time, his experience and professionalism are good for the team.

  • bill_nair

    Id make this deal. When healthy Amare can score, something this team desperately needs. The issue is he may not ever be healthy in the next 2 years, Hump’s contract is up this year and I believe we can move Wallace before Amare would come off the books. But it is intriguing thinking about a healthy Amare playing with this roster. Sit him on the bench, start of next year let him play through the injury. If he gets worse so be it.

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