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Your Morning Dump… Where Gerald Wallace might not be enjoying his time in Boston

Chuck - Red's Army November 6, 2013 Brad Stevens, Celtics News, Gerald Wallace, The Morning Dump 39 Comments

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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

“It’s hard,” Wallace said. “It’s like starting from scratch zero with this team and trying to figure out what direction they’re headed in and what pieces they’re going to put together. For me, I’ve already been through that situation. I was on an expansion team in Charlotte. I’ve established myself. To have to start all over on a team that’s starting from scratch is very difficult.”

“My thing about that is I don’t ask for trades,” Wallace said. “I don’t like to be traded. You know, once I get a place where I’m comfortable, I just want to know what’s expected of me and what my role is. For a guy that goes out and puts 110 percent of himself into it, you’re giving your all and you just want to know that. This is nothing against coach Brad (Stevens). Everyone has to figure out how we need to play with each other and how we can play together defensively and offensively to get the best out of each other.

“The thing is, the season starts so fast. It’s more like learning on the job. It’s not like college where you have that time to get to work as a team and grow and understand and see your players. In fairness to coach Stevens, he’s having to watch during the season to figure out his rotations and what guys like to do and how they play. I mean, that’s tough because these games actually count.”

Herald

I don’t blame Gerald Wallace for his frustration with the situation. Hell, I’m frustrated.

But I do not see the benefit of him expressing his frustration through the media.

We get it. You’re 31 and you don’t want to play on a rebuilding team. You’ve “been there and done that.”

But Danny Ainge doesn’t want you here either. I’m pretty sure he’d ship out the moment a reasonable deal was offered.

Wallace might be less of a squeaky wheel if there was consistency with minutes and rotations.

I’m starting to think Brad Stevens pulls names out of a hat.

Isn’t the point of training camp to assess abilities and rotations? I’m not a fan of the drastic changes from game to game.

Pick a rotation and let the guys play for two weeks. Then adapt.

[I'm expecting the wrath of the Brad Stevens fan club for that comment]

Ah… does any of this really matter?

 The rest of the links:

ESPN Boston - Hayward and C’s inevitable connection | Mailbag | CSNNE – Celtics understand losing part of process | Globe – Stevens has seen Gordon Hayward grow |

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  • Step

    The rotations need to be more consistent, but if you really think that all it takes is training camp to do it, than you’re kidding yourself. We had the same problem last yr with Doc because of injuries.

    • Curt Hays

      we had the same problem for the last 5 years because of Doc Rivers…

      • KGino

        Agree Curt. And Doc had a much easier roster to decipher

  • Tobias Scheffel

    No it doesn’t matter… but for a guy who was supposed to be so big on analysing lineups, adapting them by consulting statistics and all that, Brad Stevens lineup changes appear rather chaotic. I don’t see his lineup changes resembling any kind of plan… which statistic told him to bench Green and Faverani for the entire 4th quarter in that one game??? Stevens pulling his lineups out of a hat doesn’t seem that far off…

    • SDHarleyguy

      When two of your Bigs are rookies and have 4 NBA games each there isn’t any data to analyse. Why is this so hard to understand? Sully is also technically a rookie.
      Bass is being showcased for a trade, he is not in the long term picture, the other 3 are. Humpries is log-jammed. When Bass is traded Humpries will play. Green was benched for disciplinary reasons.
      It’s not like this was an intact team with a few new pieces to fit in here and there. NONE of the big three or big four of the last few years are available. This is a start from scratch team.
      The future personnel of this team is so cloudy that ALMOST everyone is potentially gone in 1-2 years. The coaches job right now is to evaluate and develop, not win. Why is this so hard to understand?

  • Chuck Moran

    I knew he was going to have trouble because he’s to afraid to bench some of the players who have been here like bass lee and Bradley. You can def see he doesnt want to not start Bradley or bass and hurt there feelings. During preseason this all should have got figured out.

    • Step

      I don’t think he’s afraid to bench anyone..he did bench Jeff and he’s suppose to be “our guy”

  • Chuck Moran

    I think Wallace should be second unit the guy won’t even shoot it should be a scorer instead that way Wallace will no his role on the second unit and maybe it will loosen him up to shoot.

  • tvor03

    I don’t understand why he doesn’t play Humphries more. That lineup with Green, Wallace, Bass, Humphries and a guard was great against Toronto. And correct me if I’m wrong, but we haven’t seen that lineup since.

    • Curt Hays

      It makes me sad to answer this way…most likely because Danny is paying him to tank.

      • tvor03

        I’m gonna say that’s unlikely. And very much against league rules. If it were to be found out that Ainge was paying Stevens to throw games, the franchise would be in serious hot water.

        • Curt Hays

          As long as Danny isn’t betting AGAINST his team, right?

  • Jacquard Causeway

    This team is a mess. The roster was given to Brad as a mess. The roster is built to BE a mess. It should not be any surprise that it’s taking longer than training camp + pre-season to try to cobble together a decent rotation out of this mish-mash.

  • Step

    I think people need to also understand that it’s harder to have set rotations when you have a team that consists of a bunch of bench dwellers. It’s hard to find a consistent group when in actuality they’d be a 5th option on another team.

    • eddysamson

      Yeah the problem with rotations is really that the entire roster is on the same exact level with each other. Bogans + Lee + AB are all similar, Crawford + Brooks are similar, Sully + Bass + Hump + Vitor are similar

  • bill_nair

    So im guessing every morning dump from now til February will be Gerald Wallace whining and complaining.

  • Jester00

    you have no PG your 2′s and 3′s is a bunch of has beens and never will be’s not big man rotation what so ever only couple players worth anything

    Rondo
    Bradley (at the 2)
    Sully
    KO
    Vitor

    everyone else is a DUD sorry, or an OK role player at best

    Just drink your way threw the season you will be fine thanks

    The NBA where Trading Kris H. Happens

    • RedsLoveChild

      Tanking 101 {DA & BS know exactly what they`re doing} :

      –You keep the unhappy guys {Wallace}…so they can blow up the locker-room by being a “cancer”. Once the 60+ losses seem assured, you trade the disgruntled vets to contenders

      –You keep your highest paid “big” on the bench {Humphries} at crunch time in close games

      –67% of the current roster will be gone one year from now

      • Curt Hays

        very scientific…

        • RedsLoveChild

          Tanking is “scientific”…you want to appear that winning in the present matters, when it doesn`t.

      • Jester00

        the 5 they keep are above and sadly maybe Jeff Green

        • RedsLoveChild

          Right now, you want to “showcase” Green as much as possible, by having him score and appear “productive”.

          Once Green is traded, the guy they get in return will likely be around next year.

          • Jester00

            Lord I hope so this is worse than CaddyShack 2

    • forever_green

      Look out jester has a reason to drink, I hate to say it but you may have that reason for a couple of seasons..screw it, pass that.

  • david

    I don’t blame Stevens, everybody on this team is either a bench player or still learning the game, what the hell does he have to work with?

  • GreenbirdCro

    For the argument’s sake…
    1. Cs play this season to develop, keeping ping-pong balls a ‘nice’ coincidence (i.e. non-explicit tanking, lol)
    2. Ergo, PT is more important than finding most efficient units/rotations
    3. Especially cause Cs will probably look much more different in the near future, so mashing them at this point has no true sense and value
    4. With this in mind, Brad’s job is too manage those minutes in a such manner everyone has a reason to give their best (while not necessarily bringing w’s home)
    5. Now, since things will keep repeating, I would rather read morning dumps devoted to the topics such as news about future picks and best possible trade scenarios. No more b.tching & sulking please. Both by players and fans who don’t get this year is a transitional one but nevertheless interesting and funny one. Banner 18 is really not that far, not a two decades like the previous one. :)

    • Screamin Jay

      Right on…and AMEN to number 5 above.

  • SDHarleyguy

    Lineups pulled out of a hat? Really?

  • KGino

    Crash needs to play better if he’s gonna spew all this crap… 4 games in (we’ve been competitive in every one) with a team full of unusual suspects and a coach with no NBA experience… WHAT DID YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN!

    Give it some time people!! Enjoy the little things until they start to gel, which probably won’t be a few months til after Rondo comes back.

  • forever_green

    The only feelings I’m worried is Rondo’s..I love that dude & don’t want to lose him.

  • Michael Merriam

    Needs:
    1. Talented big with strong defensive presence
    2. Go-To wing scorer
    3. Shed Wallace’s contract
    4. backup PG

    Assets (excluding Rondo):
    1. Humphries expiring deal
    2. Avery Bradley
    3. Abundance of role playing bigs & wings who could help a contender
    4. 10mil trade exception

    Here are two proposals that work in Trade Machine. The direct links it created were not working because I blew espn’s mind, but they’re valid.

    Trade #1:

    From Houston:
    Omer Asik

    $8,374,646
    2 Years
    Jeremy Lin
    $8,374,646
    2 Years

    To Houston:
    G. Wallace
    $10,105,855
    3 Years
    Brandon Bass
    $6,450,000
    2 Years
    A. Bradley
    $2,511,432
    1 Year

    Bradley is a great fit in Houston because they need a defensive guard to deal with CP3, Westbrook, Tony Parker, Steph Curry, and the like. They don’t need him to be a primary ball handler or scorer. Wallace can at least pretend to defend Durant, and certainly will get in the face of LAC, SAS, & GSW shooters. We know Houston wants to get out of Lin’s contract, and despite what has been said, it seems unlikely to me they’ll keep Asik and Howard together.

    If Houston doesn’t want Bass, there are other options to get the deal done. If we could get Chandler Parsons involved, that’d be incredible but unlikely.

    Trade #2:

    C’s acquire Afflalo and a minimum contract salary matcher from Orlando in exchange for Humphries expiring $.

    Orlando should jump at opportunity to get out of Afflalo’s deal, make room for Oladipo, and create cap space all at the same time.

    • tvor03

      Getting rid of Afflalo has no impact on what Orlando can do with Oladipo, as he is on a rookie contract and it expires after Afflalo’s.

    • eddysamson

      Oh man I love Lin I’d actually be okay with that trade haha, does leave us weak at the 3 and veteran presence.

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  • KGino

    To everyone who is calling this “tanking” — When this level of talent loses, it’s not because they’re “tanking”… it’s because they’re not good enough to win!! There’s a HUGE DIFFERENCE.

  • LA Flake

    Look on the bright side, y’all. Some Nets fans already think Paul Pierce is their best player. He’s certainly been their most consistent force.

    http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/11/4/5064530/who-is-our-best-player

  • Jason Whetzell

    Brad is doing it right, the pressure isn’t to win though, the pressure is to A. Develop young talent B. Audition the old guys for other teams so they are trade-able. So when thinking about it that way it makes sense that he’s flipping line ups daily. Since Humphries is already trade-able he gets no minutes. Wallace has to audition more. The Clippers need him though since they don’t have a good enough SF rotation. Unfortunately we can’t trade with them…