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Your Morning Dump… Where the Red Sox are inspiring the Celtics

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) October 30, 2013 Jeff Green, The Morning Dump 19 Comments

Rondo as Ortiz

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“They are my inspiration,” he said. “I’ve been watching them the last couple of years and nobody thought they would be at the point they are right now with guys who just came out of nowhere and played together. They are all on the same page. They are getting the job done. Now they have a great chance of winning the World Series.

“I think we’re in a similar position where we have guys who not a lot of people know. (Rajon) Rondo would be our (David) Oritz. And we just have to follow his lead. We have to go out there, and play hard, and give it our all.”

Green said the comparison is something he has been thinking about for the past couple of months.

“Everybody’s been counting us out,” he said. “They did the same thing with the Red Sox. Now look at where they’re at, and how hard they had to battle to get to that point. We have to do the same thing.”

MWDN: Red Sox run inspires Jeff Green

Before this run to the World Series started, the fellas over at Ted’s Army were split on whether the Red Sox would even make the playoffs.  They reflected a general consensus that the Red Sox sere a wild card team at best, if they were going to make the playoffs at all.

I don’t want to get everyone’s hopes up making the comparison, but I’m for anything that inspires the guys to play hard.  These guys will need whatever inspiration they can get this season, so if Jeff Green wants to draw parallels to the guys across town, so be it.

Let’s be honest here, though, the Celtics don’t have a Sox-type run in them.  I say that not out of a lack of faith or anything like that… it’s just the reality of the situation.  The Sox had a bunch of guys step up to become some of the best in the league at their positions, and (watch out, this one’s going to sting) they still have an old #34 on their team that can re-capture some playoff magic.  We don’t (see, I told you).

One team’s season will begin tonight, another’s could end.  Maybe we’ll see some Sox stroll through the Garden to flash some new jewelry and pump up the crowd, and apparently, the players.  But as we embark on this season, the only thing in common these teams will have is the city to which their mail is delivered.

Related links:  Herald: Jeff Green thinks positive as C’s open season  |  Globe: Green takes inspiration from Celtics’ success  |  ESPN Boston:  Red Sox on Celtics’ minds

Page 2: Don’t expect any set starting lineups yet

“Until there’s separation there can’t be a set lineup,” said Ainge, the Celtics’ president of Basketball Operations. “So I think most likely that it won’t happen on the first crack, but the second or third crack we’ll figure it out.”

Stevens will likely play at least 10 players early on, but admits he would ideally like to have a nine-man rotation.”

And the crazy part is, I can get down to (nine players) but it’s really healthy if they get down to it and they separate themselves in that regard and nine guys stand out above all others,” Stevens said. “It’s happened some, but it hasn’t happened consistently.”

Which is why Stevens’ starting five should be written in disappearing ink all season.

CSNNE: Don’t expect a set starting line up

Right now, I’m leaning towards Crawford, Bradley, Green, Wallace, Faverani as my opening night lineup (since Sullinger is suspended for the opener).  It easily could be Bradley, Green, Wallace, Olynyk, and Fav.  Or it could be Crawford, Bradley, Green, Olynyk and Fav.  Or maybe, Crawford, Green, Wallace, Humphries, and Olynyk.  Or maybe….

….. you get it.

It’s all one big competition.  In some senses it’s positive, because guys will have to earn their time.  In some senses it’s negative, because it could encourage some individual, rather than team play.  But at this point, you have to try to find out who your best 5 are.

I’ll say this, though: Brad Stevens is already armed with a ton of data, and he knows who his best combinations are right now.  Expect them to really play with the Green/Wallace combination.  And I think Fav has shown he can get plenty of minutes and be alright.

And once these guy start to separate themselves, Rondo will be ready to go and we get to start all over again.  This is why I think the early part of the season will be a struggle while the second half will be markedly better.  It’s a two-stage process of figuring out how to play with one another.  And while I think these guys will try to make it as seamless as possible, it won’t be seamless.  It’ll take until mid-January or February, assuming Rondo is back before Christmas, to really get their timing down with Rondo back in the line up.

Until then, we embrace the process.

Related links:  ESPN Boston: Lineup remains unsettled

The rest of the links:

Herald:  Levelhead coach  |  Sullinger suspended for opener  |  First step in rebuild a smart one  |  CSNNE:  CelticsTalk TV: What words describe Stevens  |  Impressive Olynyk kicks off career in home country  |  Celtics pick up option on Sullinger’s contract  |  Bradley among those expected to become RFA’s  |  ESPN Boston:  10 things to know as season starts  |  Celtics hope to be full of surprises  |  Ainge talks options/extensions  |  Sullinger understands team suspension  |  WEEI:  Celtics, for the last time series:  Phil Pressey  |  Brandon Bass  |  Vitor Faverani  |  Avery Bradley  |  Gerald Wallace  |  Kelly Olynyk  |  MWDN:  For Celtics, season of transition tips off in Toronto

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  • Nathan

    i cant even figure out who the 9 man rotation would be let alone the starting 5

  • Jester00

    I love this Day Got 2 Beers down while cooking my eggs and corn beef hash I LOVE THE FIRST DAY OF CELTICS BASKETBALL!!!!!!!!!!! While I am eating this I shall watch Celtic Pride.

    • eddysamson

      hahaha you’re the man Jester

      • Curt Hays

        Indeed he is. We should all look up to him.

    • Jester00

      The Stouts are Gone + 9 sam Adams Just watched the larry Legend Video on to the meats and cheases more beer and about to Watch him Drop 49 14 12 in 1992 vs the BLAzers GO CELTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Kahnstantine

    NIce Photoshop work. I was genuinely confused for a moment.

    • bill_nair

      I hadn’t noticed til I read this post. Pretty creepy.

    • Chulinho

      I can’t stop looking at it.

    • Curt Hays

      Oh wow. I didn’t notice either until I hovered over the photo. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it.

    • Screamin Jay

      which photo? the one of Ortiz? I stared at it for some time and don’t see anything unusual….

      • Screamin Jay

        oh wait…is that Rondo with a beard?

  • bill_nair

    I want Wallace in the starting lineup whether he plays the 4 or green plays the 2. I DO NOT want Bradley running the point, but what else can we do? Fav should start but he probably wont. I expect him to be a starter by years end (assuming we dont upgrade the 5 spot.)

    LETS GO SOX!!!!!!!!

  • Jo

    Deep deep deeeep down, i believe we can make this magical run, a couple of our rooks play above their talent level, uncle Jeff makes the leap to super-stardom, Rondo comes back down the road & is LBJ consistent…. but yea, in reality we must embrace the suck errrr i mean “process”.

  • KGino

    So glad to see Doc lose to the lakers bench last night. Clips got woefully out rebounded (glad to see Doc up to his old tricks) and still gave up 116 point. Welcome to the West Doc!! Have a miserable year!!

  • swissflix

    Let’s go Celtics! I don’t care how bad everyone says we are or how bad we actually turn out to be. Celtic pride always! Looking forward to having lots of entertaining discussions on this board here, greetings from Switzerland!
    Besides, there is a lot to watch: AB’s and Sully’s development, Olynyk, Green without Pierce, the comeback of Rondo, etc.

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  • jason benn

    hows this for a healthy nine man rotation- rondo bradley wallace green fav some offensive power off the bench with the other four being KO Sully jcraw and maybe a lil humphries or bass not in any order off the bench you could swap fav with kris either or i think maybe more kris if they want to trade him this trade season he will start at center to get his reps n showcase him…..how do you tank without tanking you play humphries at center and let him get his 20 10 every night and that will definetly lead to lots of losses lol not cuz hes completly horrible if the guy can average 20 and 10 he gotta be somewhat good but because when has a team lead by humphries in scoring( when has he ever lead in scoring on a team?!?!) won tons of games lol cant wait to see what they go with for the staring lineup for game one prety sure it wont be similar to the starting lineup for game two lol and so on. let brad tinker all he wants then if we can snag parker at the five pick like has been mock drafted lol (pointless) then he could tinker with that lineup….. what can we get from any team for jeff green we need a go to scorer which he clearly isnt so what can we get from other teams to provide more cap relief and help out the position in ways of wins slash loses do we trade green for a few more 1st rd picks over the next few years???? or trade him for som eexpiring contracts?

  • Jester00

    int0 the Miller Light and Going strong about ready to watch bird score 60 in 85 on hawks Danmages so far

    movies seen

    CEltic Pride
    Larry Legend
    92 bird vs Blazers

    lots of foods

    beers that drank
    4 stout
    12 Sam Adams
    3 Miller Lights

    GO CELTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!