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Your Morning Dump… Where it didn’t take long to be underwhelmed by Jeff Green

Chuck - Red's Army October 10, 2013 Jeff Green, The Morning Dump 29 Comments

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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump. 

“Jeff’s fine,” Stevens said. “We’re not going to start Jeff tonight, but that has nothing to do with Jeff. It has everything to do with what we want to tinker with. We’re asking him to do a lot. We probably have to simplify it and keep it at one of two spots instead of three spots. I don’t think it’s been determined which ones yet.”

Green claims not to be bothered by what some will read into the sight of him coming off the bench. Last night he responded by scoring 10 points in 21 minutes on 4-for-10 shooting, including 2-for-6 from 3-point range. He played most of the game at shooting guard.

“There’s no need to even worry (about the starting lineup),” he said. “I know people are going to make an assumption, but the coach is the coach. He made sure that the media and everyone else knew that we were going to play different lineups before (the start of exhibition games). You can listen to him or you can’t, but people are still going to assume that something’s wrong.”

“Most definitely it’s been more difficult,” he said. “There’s so many schemes that you have to know. We talked, and I told (Stevens) I still want to take on that challenge, because with my versatility, I can create mismatch problems and put the advantage on our side. It’s all a work in progress. This is our second preseason game. It’s not like we’re 50 games into the season. We just have to keep working.”

Boston Herald

Not only does Jeff Green have to learn a new offensive system, but he has to learn three positions. That’s a heavy load for anyone not named LeBron James.

If the Celtics are going to have any success this season (defined by a playoff berth), Green must have a career year. That means consistently scoring 20-24 ppg while shooting at least 45%. Without the need to get Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett 30 shots a game, there should be ample opportunity for Green to achieve those numbers.

Since Green arrived in Boston, his inconsistent performance has been excused for many reasons. Some more legitimate than others:

  • He arrived midseason
  • He’s coming off major surgery
  • It’s hard to be assertive playing with future HOFers

My point is.. there always seems to be a reason why Jeff isn’t playing to his potential. After two underwhelming preseason performances, I can already see the latest excuse.

Yes, I realize we have 3 weeks to go before the season opener. Go ahead and blast me for the “premature speculation.”

The rest of the links:

ESPN Boston – Pressey makes push at point | Babb makes most of minutes | CSNNE – Faverani impresses | Rondo assists from bench | Players 1st impressions of Stevens | Game recap: Celtics fall to Knicks | Pressey has point covered in Rondo’s absence | Globe – Knicks top Celtics in preseason thriller | Herald – No end to fervor on Cs bench |

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  • Tobias Scheffel

    If he doesn’t deliver this season he is sooooo gone…..

    • Jester00

      no one will take the over paid guys we have Hump, Bass, Green, Lee, Crawford, and Bogans. Really only Bass Hustles of those guys. the young guys are playing harder then the old guys I love it!!!!!! If I am Danny I look to get draft picks or Dying contracts for these Clowns.

  • Chuck Moran

    Green will be fine it’s lee who is awful and coaches love him cause he’s a nice guy but I think if they started avery green at the two then Wallace olynyk and sully they would be pretty damn good if you look around the league two guards are getting bigger with butler Thompson granger/George I think the celtics should do the same. Imagine that lineup when rondo comes back that us pretty legit.

  • bill_nair

    I think Green will be fine but he’ll start off slow like he did last year. I expect him to get it going sooner though. If he takes 15-16 shots a game consistently I think it will boost his confidence.

    • Curt Hays

      I think it’s more about how many he misses in a game…
      I remember reading a stat that Steph Curry’s FG% drops to ~20% for the rest of the game after he has a shot blocked. Jeff’s blockage seems to be in his brain.

      • Robert Hodgman

        Great point! He should never try from long range on his first shot attempt. He should get it from inside than work his way out. When he does this he usually ends up with a pretty good game.

  • swissflix

    Ahh…i knew this was coming. Ladies and gentsies, it’s a preseason game, Sully is jacking up multiple (!) 3s (and Faverani!), Pressey plays 20 minutes, Olynyk gets stuck in the paint (and passes the ball very well) and a new coach is getting to know a very young team.
    If the article was not as onesided as it is, i could live with it. For example, it could be stated that Green still does not seem to know that it is allowed to dribble with the left hand.
    Sully got into some pretty unnecessary fouls on defense. That worries me more than Green scoring 10 points in 20 minutes in a preseason game.

    • Curt Hays

      How in the hell is it one sided? The whole point was Chuck’s premature speculation.

      • chuckmckenney

        Thanks Curt for reading the entire post and “getting it.”

        • swissflix

          But why be negative prematurely and undifferentiated when it is merely a preseason game? It’s a contradiction in terms.

          • chuckmckenney

            According to your logic, we should also abstain from positive reaction. So let’s just all go silent until the games count. That sounds like a lot of fun.

          • swissflix

            True, that would not be fun. But maybe write it in a differentiating way…it’s not like Green did everything wrong and Sully everything perfect, right?
            oh well, cannot wait for the next game.

  • eddysamson

    Its preseason and were trying to see what the new guys have got, I’m sure Green is just deferring to them for that reason. He doesn’t need to take over a game in preseason when we need to see if other people can do anything like that. If hes still looking like that closer to December then perhaps we can be worried about him.

  • Tommy_Heinsohn

    Although it’s only been 2 preseason games I’ve been trying to see something new out of JG. “What did he work on in the summer?” has been my question while watching these games, and honestly, I can’t tell. He still can’t go left, his mid-range game is still lacking, doesn’t aggressively go to the hoop. On the plus side he still can hit the corner three. Hopefully with time he will assert himself more and show us what he’s improved on these past few months.

  • Jester00

    Pressey and Babb played better then any back court player not named Bradley these past 2 games

    • Tommy_Heinsohn

      You could argue that they played better than Bradley… He didn’t show up at all in the first game

  • RedsLoveChild

    It`s almost unbelievable.

    Even though Jeff Green and Gerald Wallace have almost identical contracts—even though Wallace will always be the more productive player—the idiots posting on this blog will often complain about Wallace`s contract, yet never utter a peep about Green`s!

    The ONLY reason Green remains a Celtic is because Ainge cannot find any team stupid enough to take him..

    The ONLY reason Danny Ainge still has a job—after accidentally blowing up the best team in the EC by acquiring Green, then signing him to a ridiculous contract—is because of Wyc Grousbeck`s “man crush” for Ainge.

    • Curt Hays

      I would have upvoted you if you hadn’t called people idiots. That gets old, and really keeps people from listening to you.

      You are correct. I love GW’s game, and Jeff really doesn’t need the spotlight. At least getting stuck with Jeff’s contract gives Boston more time to get something out of him. Wallace will be over the hill soon.

      • RedsLoveChild

        Green will always give you that one “SportsCenter-worthy” dunk per game…and then turn invisible for the rest of the night.

        You have a better chance of talking a dog off a meat wagon than you have of ever seeing Green become productive for more than 60 seconds per game.

        Couldn`t possibly care less about up or down votes….my comments are always directed solely to the author of any given post.

        • Curt Hays

          Maybe we can give Jeff’s contract to Lamar Odom. I think he and Humphries should get along well.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Never saw it coming!!

            Who would have guessed that Odom`s drug history…when combined with “Kardashian drama”….would have resulted in a bad ending?!?

    • forever_green

      I agree with your points Red.

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  • Mike

    Ahh yess I see most of us have already forgotten the 17.3 ppg with 49%, 43%, 79% shooting splits Green put up in the second half of last year.

    • eddysamson

      not to mention 20ppg on the Knicks while the rest of team was completely struggling to do anything offensively.

      • Jake Gruber

        Read all you want into half of a season of production. People did that with Avery Bradley and look what had happened since then. My point is, until a guy CONSISTENTLY proves himself, at the very least for an entire season, let’s not get too excited.

  • Farter1

    The last two things I’ve read by this author has been about the team being soft because they were given a day off after multiple two-a-day days, and now Jeff Green has been underwhelming in 2 preseason games. What a jackass.

    • chuckmckenney

      Thank you. I’m honored.

  • Mannie

    Remember how good green played in last years preseason? He had to prove he’s worth of a spot on the team. He doesn’t have to do that this year. Some fans have no patience at all! Y’all need to chill.