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3 days of training camp nearly killed Courtney Lee, Keith Bogans

Chuck - Red's Army October 4, 2013 Celtics News 17 Comments

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The Celtics “training camp” in Newport, RI lasted all of three days. Good thing, because we nearly lost Courtney Lee and Keith Bogans:

“[Wednesday], the gym was a little bit hot in here, so people lost a lot of fluids,” guard Courtney Lee explained. “[Thursday], they had about six fans going now, trying to cool the gym off. Once you cool off while [coach Brad Stevens is] explaining something, then you get stiff, and try to go back in, it’s always tough. Like I said, three days of two-a-days, it’ll get you.”

“You’ve got to take in a lot early,” said veteran guard Keith Bogans. “The main thing is, you learn as much as possible and try to put it all together, but it’s tough. You’re getting tired out here. Guys are breaking down, bodies are breaking down, but you’ve got to fight through it.”

Wow… this is pathetic.

These guys have been relaxing for nearly 4 months and they have the balls to complain about two-a-day workouts?

I understand that 4-6 hours of running and jumping in a hot gym is no picnic and that these guys have nagging injuries and ailments 24/7/365.

But this mentality is… soft.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t recall hearing these types of comments when #5 and #34 were here.

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  • Kahnstantine

    I have to disagree. These guys are getting hounded for quotes right now. Just more words.

  • Carl

    “Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t recall hearing these types of comments when #5 and #34 were here”. Couldn’t agree any more. You would never hear talk like that if Garnett and Pierce was still around, but that’s expected with a new atmosphere.

  • MrCuret

    The thing is that no matter how hard this guys work during the summer, nothing’s going to get them in shape like getting out there and playing against each other. There’s a big difference between summer workouts & banging against NBA bodies, because they don’t have contact on them all the time and they’re not competing at the same level. They’re not guarding ball screens, or getting hard fouls. That’s why teams have the next day off when they have a back-to-back. Remember last season when Boston played back to back games how tired they looked in the 2nd night? That’s bc competing against NBA players for several hours a day takes a toll on them.

    There’s a reason why it’s called training camp.

  • ian

    Wow, you sound ignorant.

  • Step

    Sounds like someone is really nitpicking..it’s training camp and it didn’t sound like they were complaining at all. We don’t have to compare every situation to PP or Kg, they’re gone. In the article Sully is saying that everyone is going HARD during these 2 a days. You’re really reaching with this post.

  • Celticsfanatic

    Lol this team is gonna suck.

    • Jason Anderson

      kinda like you huh

  • Shane

    Not sure if you’ve been keeping up with current East Coast temperatures, but its been very, VERY warm, eclipsing 80 degrees all over and, coincidentally, the same town where the Celtics happened to be attending training camp. So yea, I’d say you are wrong.

  • Curt Hays

    Speaking of numbers…I’m glad Rondo seems to think Humphries is cool, considering that they gave him KPerk’s number…

    • omitasub

      How many dumb asses are there in this website? God damn.
      Rondo doesn’t own the number 43, and Humphries had the same number since he got drafted to the NBA.,

      • Curt Hays

        Does it make you feel better to say God damn in a public forum, or do you get more enjoyment out of calling names to people you’ve never seen in your life?
        I enjoy keeping the traffic high on Reds Army. Maybe when your mom gets home she’ll take the laptop away from you so that the rest of us don’t have to put up with all that teen angst.

      • jason benn

        i would think the dumb ass would be the one who calls someone that and doesn’t read the comment correctly. Said blogger was simplying say hey good thing that rondo is cool with Humphries after they fought each other and that it is funny and twisted in a way the kris has always had that number and perk had it when he was there, maybe some irony in that i would think. plus you sound like a dumb ass calling everyone on here a dumb ass or even asking how many there are on this website. so far to answer you question i count one dumb ass on this site ;) maybe two since i responded back to you.

        • Curt Hays

          Can’t be a dumb ass for supporting a fellow fan by using logic.

  • Brian Pahlm

    I’m guessing a college coach with a young team runs his guys alot harder then Doc would with a veteran team.

  • frickenWaaaltah

    This is exactly the sort of thinking that killed Korey Stringer, and that’s why I’m about to rant…

    It’s a combo of the macho mindset of the ancient but disproven theory where more suffering must mean better training and ignorance of how humidity works and how the body cools itself off.

    I’ll skip the weather lesson, but in this sort of case, Courtney is wrong in that it’s not actually the fluids but that they just couldn’t cool off. Assuming they didn’t forget the cooler or something, NBA guys get all the gatorade they can drink but if it’s too humid in the gym, they will sweat a ton and won’t cool off properly no matter how hydrated they stay.

    Other than maybe just for mental toughness, such workouts are wasted time. There is no significant exercise induced training response to working out in high humidity that makes you tougher and more resistant to fatigue. All people who are ‘used to it’ do is get better at pacing themselves more slowly for the conditions. People who aren’t ‘used to it’ don’t slow their pace down and get exhausted.

    Overall, the high humidity conditions just make it so that the athletes can’t exert themselves to their normal capacity and thus it’s wasted time.

    Maybe Stevens is aware of that and he does just want to mentally toughen them up a bit, or test them and see how they react, or something smart I can’t even fathom, but I would guess they just picked the wrong gym.

  • Caterpillar from Italy

    “you’re getting tired out here”.. no good.

  • Rjd12345

    I would take this as a good thing because Doc was notorious for having the easiest practices in the NBA. Courtney Lee and several other players said so. Even Doc admitted to barely ever practicing as to not wear out KG and Pierce, which worked for them but I think also hurt some of the younger players’ development. This means Stevens and co are going about this the right way, not necissarily that our players are weak