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Your Morning Dump… Where Doc’s out to kill us all

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) September 13, 2013 Celtics News, Doc Rivers, Kendrick Perkins, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, The Morning Dump 17 Comments

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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump. 

Rivers acknowledged that the 2011 Kendrick Perkins-Jeff Green trade was a mistake that ultimately hurt Garnett.

“I think so,” reflected Rivers, “because we needed the toughness. The one thing we did by losing Perk was we removed Kevin’s protector. I didn’t think it was a coincidence that, after Perk left, that Kevin got into all those little flicks with the other teams. Perk deflected all that.”

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“I didn’t want Paul to go, even though I knew it was coming,” said Rivers. “That was a tough one for me. Even when I was here and it was being talked about — my thing is, Kobe [Bryant] is going to end up being a Laker for life. Dirk [Nowitzki] is going to be a Maverick. That’s the one thing that, if we didn’t do right, that was the one right thing we didn’t do for Paul.”

WEEI: Doc Rivers laments departure of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce from Celtics

I know Doc is just answering questions, and now that he’s no longer part of the team (and now that he and Danny Ainge have gotten into a little pissing match over how he left), Doc can go ahead and tell us things he felt he couldn’t before.

And so we get to hear about the Perkins trade all over again, which I felt like we had finally put to bed this past season with Jeff Green taking on an increased and important role while Perk faded into “they should amnesty this guy” territory.  We finally accepted that the Celtics got the best guy in the trade, despite how much we loved Perk (and continue to), the trade ultimately worked out in Boston’s favor.

But this will just drag up some revisionist history that ignores the fact that the one guy who couldn’t get hurt was Marquis Daniels, since he was the only guy who could spell Paul Pierce.  And the one guy who DID get hurt was Marquis Daniels, leaving the Celtics in a lurch that forced them to take a gamble on moving a popular player they weren’t going to re-sign anyway.

Meanwhile, poking at the fresh wound that is the Paul Pierce trade doesn’t help us much either.

You know, camp is only a few weeks away.  We’ll be seeing Pierce traipsing around in that not-Boston jersey soon enough and it will sting pretty good.   This is just the lemon juice being poured into the cut.

The one thing that needed absolutely no confirmation but was provided to us anyway was Kevin Garnett’s liberal use of curses.

Rivers also admitted that Garnett has an interesting use of the English language.

“The word that starts with ‘f’? He thought it was a noun, verb and an adjective,” Rivers said.

This is why Kevin Garnett could never be mic’d up for broadcasts.  His vocabulary would melt the microphone.

Yet I know, as a person who has worked around the media, photogs, and editors for a long time, that somewhere, someone has compiled a reel of things Kevin Garnett has said on the court.  Somewhere in America, I will guarantee you, there exists some string of video that is a compilation of expertly strewn expletives flowing from the mouth of Kevin Maurice Garnett while participating in NBA games.

Forget Miley swinging naked on a wrecking ball or adaptations of a waffle falling over… that video would instantly become the most glorious chunk of internet real estate in the history of the internets.

If you’re out there, and you have this video….. do the right thing.  Share this glorious concoction with the world.

The rest of the links:

CSNNE:  Celtics, 98.5, finalizing broadcast deal  |  Rivers: Didn’t feel right to trade Pierce  |  Celtics.com:  Phil Pressey 1-on-1 (video)  |  ESPN Boston:  Countdown to camp: Date night  |  Newport Daily News (Twitter): Part of C’s camp to be held in Newport, RI  |

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  • eddysamson

    Completely unrelated but I had to get this off my chest to some NBA fans.

    I live in VT, just started taking a class at the state community college (CCV). Its a Statistics class…chance probability what not. We’re talking about sports stats last night in class and TWO of my classmates were roommates with current NBA players in college. One really short, white, chunky hippy looking dude lived with ANDREW BYNUM at a boarding school when he was 14. The kid who sat next to me used to live with Nerlens Noel at a private school.

    WHAT ARE THE ODDS? Tiny class in VT(a state that rarely has connections to famous athletes or celebs) 2 of the dudes lived with NBA players…

    • tvor03

      if you were in a probability class, you should be able to find out the odds pretty quickly. :)

      • eddysamson

        Haha I know I thought of that, was really surprised the professor didn’t just start trying to figure it out

    • GreenbirdCro

      Lolz
      I sat also in class next to now a former NBA player
      ;)

  • Lee in Oregon

    I’m guessing DA and Croc Rivers are both n the market for new “best friends”……

  • forever_green

    Perk wasn’t just a “popular player” he was the starting center.

    I don’t like how he left, but I agree with Doc on his points.

    • RedsLoveChild

      History clearly supports Rivers on the Perkins trade. Boston instantly went from being the most feared team in the EC {41-15}….to a very soft, finesse, mediocre team. They never did recover.

      Marquis Daniels? Please! Let`s stop pretending that replacing him represents some monumental challenge.

      I love and admire the hell out of Pierce but, sentiment has no place in professional sports. The memories of what PP did here will always remain. However, the goal is to always live in the present and future, to win and get better…not to be a sentimental loser living in the past.

      • Brick James

        You ask us to leave sentiment out of it, but in the breath before, implore us to remember the effect of the loss of Kendrick Perkins to the Boston Celtics franchise. Really? Do you not see the irony in that?

        Even if we disagree on the impact of Perkins on the floor (we do), you can’t deny the business of basketball decision here. Perkins is arguably one of the top 3 the most overpaid bigs in the league right now. His free agency was looming, and the C’s knew they weren’t giving him the money that he thought he would command. So they traded him and got something back in return. How can you complain about that?

        • RedsLoveChild

          What irony? Perkins was what, 26 years old when they traded him? That`s a long way from being 36.

          When you`re kicking ass—as the Celts were in late Feb., 2011—you`d better be damn sure you know what you`re doing IF you decide to trade away your starting center.

          Trading away 1 of your 2 big defensive “anchors” in the paint, in mid-season, for guy who is going to serve as Pierce`s “caddy” was a dumb move by Ainge.

          • forever_green

            I 100% agree on Perk.
            I just have a question for you Red, would you have traded Bird?

          • RedsLoveChild

            Not for Chuck Person, which was rumored.

            By 1989, Bird had become way too “iconic” to trade.

            However, if the GM of the Spurs had been snorting cocaine one night, and was willing to send rookie David Robinson to Boston for Bird…no way would I say “no”.

            Fact is, by 1989, with his body was breaking down…Bird was the type who would`ve retired on the spot before reporting to a new team.

      • Rich Jensen

        Quick question: Boston was 41-15. How many of those games had Perk played in?

        • RedsLoveChild

          12 games….Fair point…we all know Shaq carried the load at center early in the season, as Perkins was still rehabbing.

          Trading Perkins was super risky with Shaq & JO being fragile, and they paid the price.

          Perkins was just starting to round into shape…he was already averaging 8 boards in 26 minutes {KG was at 8 boards/31 mins.}. Perkins was still the same proven commodity that played center on the 2008 title team, taking up lots of space in the paint. He had Boston up 3-2 in the 2010 Finals before Bynum did his thing.

  • Clayton Otto

    You know I appreciate Doc Rivers and what he did for the Celtics. We all know his departure was a bit strange, but come on people we lost a great coach. KG said he would walk through a wall for the guy. I take that as solid confirmation of the guys character. Also, does anyone forget when his family took in Austins friend? Give the guy a break. But I guess hating people is easier than forgiving. Its basketball at the end of the day.

    http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2013-02-25/rivers-gave-jones-new-start

  • Rich Jensen

    Man, Doc is just chipping away at his legacy with these remarks. Geez, buddy, remember what Mark Twain said: “It’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”

  • vitamin d

    Why the Doc hate?

  • August Boy Fernando

    What the Celtics did — trading great players — has been honed to perfection by the Philippines most popular — but zooming down, down, down — team called GINEBRA KINGS. Now the erstwhile perennial title-contender GINBERA is just one step to the chasmic doormat of the Philippine Basketball Assn tournament! KARMA!