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Report: C’s-Nets in blockbuster Pierce/KG talks

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) June 27, 2013 Celtics News, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Rumors, Trades 40 Comments

Get a load of this bomb from Adrian Wojnarowski:

The Brooklyn Nets are pursuing a blockbuster deal with the Boston Celtics to acquire future Hall of Famers Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Nets have discussed a possible deal to land Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett.

The talks are centering around a package that would include Gerald Wallace, Tomike Shengelia, the expiring deal of Kris Humphries and three future first-round picks, sources told Y! Sports.

Garnett has yet to be approached about waiving his no-trade clause, sources said, but there’s a belief that he could be convinced of agreeing to a deal should the Celtics and Nets be able to reach an agreement on terms. No deal is imminent.

For the Celtics, the chance to clear cap space and gain multiple future draft picks to start the franchise’s rebuilding process would be the lure.

Holy crap.

The Celtics would save about $5 million on this transaction this season if these are, indeed, the players involved. They’d get, I assume, a back-up SF in Gerald Wallace who is under contract for 3 more seasons at $30.3 million. Humphries’ deal is $12 mil. next season and he’s gone.  I don’t know anything about the other guy.  And then there are the picks, which would give the C’s four additional first rounders in this nuclear rebuild. The only question is when they’d be available, and what protections would be attached.

Atlanta has the right to swap picks with Brooklyn next season, so that can’t be traded.  The “Stepien rule” also does not allow for the trading of first rounders in consecutive years.  So we’re looking at really “future” number ones, the third of which might not come until Jared Sullinger is contemplating retirement.

So color me “meh” right now on this.  I like Wallace and think he’d bring some nice stability to this team…. provided he could regain the confidence he so obviously lost last season.  The rest?

Meh.

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  • piecz

    Actually Humphries is solid rebounder but I can’t see how he and Rondo… you know. Wallace’s great player but I don’t like those 3 remaining years. Pros and cons.

  • pierce Hart

    Wow. The thought of that trade is pretty sickening. Not only could I barely cope with watching a C’s game if Humphries and Wallace were in green but three late first rounders are hardly worth absorbing an awful contract. WHY GOD WHY!

  • Brian Girolamo

    This is realllly bad. Why take on bad contracts instead of just letting KG and Pierce finish out the year? Makes no sense. And those future late first rounders aren’t sugar to the deal at all. Danny needs to be fired.

    • ShawnCVD

      Why fire Danny for a leaked rumor ?

      • Brian Girolamo

        If this is true, then it’s the last straw. What honest good has Danny done for this franchise since he brought over KG and Jesus? Seriously, what good that will better this team’s chances to win another title?

        • tvor03

          Did you not catch the part where it is a rumor of a discussion? Meaning nothing has happened yet? You want to fire Danny over something he hasn’t done?

          • Brian Girolamo

            Again, I said IF THIS IS TRUE. Danny needs to be fired because he hasn’t done a good thing for the team that would help them win another championship since the last championship. Yes he got KG and Jesus and they won a ring, but that was in 2008. Since then? It’s been some very questionable and often moronic moves.

          • tvor03

            If it turns out he had a discussion, then he needs to be fired? Are you sure you know what a GM’s job is?

            And what has Danny done since 2008? Besides drafting Avery and Sully and swapping a poor center (though fan favorite) for an explosive scorer, and turning a coach who wanted to leave into a first round draft pick, and wisely passing on resigning Posey and Powe even though every Celtics fan was begging for them, then you’re right, Danny has done nothing for this team.

          • Brian Girolamo

            AB is majorly injury prone and Sully could be too. We all know the unfortunate Jeff Green situation, but that trade was awful even with a healthy Jeff Green. JuJuan Johnson? Shaq? Bad moves since the big 3 won a ring. And plenty of opportunites to not leave the franchise in this limbo situation facing the ‘possibility’ of KG and Pierce heading to direct competition in exchange for garbage players. Ouch. Yes, he should be fired if this trade goes down, final straw.

          • LA Flake

            danny made some ballsy moves when he got shaq & jo’neal. and his moves last summer were universally lauded except for judas’s departure. i understand that danny didn’t keep the core and added to it but he still made some ballsy moves and you have to give him credit for that.

        • Double D

          You’re right. We should probably ignore all the transactions that led up to acquiring KG and Jesus.

  • LA Flake

    Hmm…Given that KG&PP have 1-2 years of good basketball left, I’d be tempted to do this if the picks are unprotected future number ones. And this from a guy who loves PP&KG.

    • LA Flake

      Wait! I changed my mind! I don’t wanna see PP and KG go!!!

  • Adam Stark

    This has to be the worst trade I have ever heard of. Kris Humphries is a terrible player on a terrible contract. Him and rondo on the same team is a smart plan too. I don’t care for picks really because at the end of the day it is luck look at fab melo he’s never going to be good enough to play in the NBA and we took him at 22. I’d rather let KG retire and cut pierce than this trade. The only decent player king had is Lopez and I don’t care much for him either. What happened to the josh smith trade? Why not do that and see what centre we could get for KG bass and lee?

  • MatthewWilding

    I don’t love this at all. That Wallace contract is an albatross.

  • aaron32

    This sums up my feelings:

    • aaron32

      wow, that was really big. Sorry.

    • Jester00

      Great Response in RedsArmy History FACT

  • grey_skies7

    Some of you are missing the point entirely. The reason for this trade is to take on terrible contracts and get compensated with future value for doing so. The only way to rebuild for a championship run is to bottom out and collect assets with future value. A quick reboot with Josh Smith or any of that nonsense will land us in mid-teir purgatory.

    Take it and run.

    • art

      Agreed. The other posters are emotional about losses of PP and KG but you have to look at the big picture. C’s need draft choices for the draft master (Danny) in order to be great again. PP and KG are nearing the end so it will be good to get something in exchange for the future. The NJ players are just assets for more moves, so everyone should chill regarding them.

    • pierce Hart

      So we should trade Rondo and green if we won’t be contending for a while? Get picks for them?

      • grey_skies7

        I wouldn’t be opposed. Rondo is great on a good team on a big night but he’s not the kind of guy to lead a team of young players playing on local broadcasts every night. I don’t mind keeping Jeff Green around if only because he already qualifies as a bad contract and we’d have to pay somebody to take him off our hands. Might as well have his salary towards the minimum salary requirements for the next few years.

        • pierce Hart

          After the huge effort from Green against Miami and into the post season he has shown that he could be an all star on what now looks like a good contract I also think with a mature star rondo would grow up and lead this team through the playoffs

          • grey_skies7

            Well I guess you’re a more optimistic man than me. I’d give you 3-1 odds against Jeff Green ever making an all-star team. His best chance is to put up big (but probably really inefficient) numbers on a terrible Celtics team. I still don’t think it’s happening.

          • eddysamson

            Green averaged 20PPG in the Knicks series. You’re a hater, plain and simple.

          • RedsLoveChild

            GreySkies…you don`t belong here.

            You make far too much sense, and have way too much intelligence for this short sighted/largely brain-dead crowd!

      • grey_skies7

        The sooner we all come to grips with the fact that there are no available moves that will make the Celtics anything better than mediocre next year, the better. Last place and a bundle of future assets is the best possible scenario for the Celtics next year.

    • LA Flake

      yeah…i still look back and thank god we bottomed out and landed tim duncan and kevin durant. it’s been a joy seeing those two in green…oh, wait.

  • ShawnCVD

    It’s a shame that swappy ATL pick for 2014 cannot be included. That Wallace contract is brutal . PP can be moved at trade deadline. KG for Humphrey and 2 picks works for me.

  • Lee in Oregon

    Wallace is a stud, but I don’t like seeing KG & PP go to Brooklyn……..just too close……(although it is a huge FU to the knicks). It’s gonna suck seeing those guys in another uniform, especially Pierce, but it would be better if they went somewhere like memphis or Golden State, where we only see then twice a year. I don’t need to get pounded by the guys I love on a regular basis. Pretty good initial offer though…..yes Humphries is a tool, but it’s only 1 year and the guy can rebound better than anyone currently on the C’s roster.

    • Adam Stark

      Have your heard of a guy called jerad sullinger? Hump lost his role to evens, all evens can do is rebound and flop. Wallace is ok but not for $10 mil a year. I think KG should go to Houston to play under Mchale one last time. Surly clippers and king aren’t the only teams on KG’s list.

      • Lee in Oregon

        I have heard of Jared Sullinger. He may need help though, considering the kid just had back surgery.

        Wallace is a helluva player at both ends, I have no prob with an all-star making 10 mil a year. Compared to some, he’s a bargain at that price.

        • frickenWaaaltah

          At both ends? Really? He can’t shoot. Should’ve been a soccer player. A small forward who can’t shoot is a LOSER.

  • Suarez

    Are we certain that the 2014 Nets pick is untradeable? Since its a pick swap in the same draft, couldn’t that be dealt? I feel that’s been done before…

  • frickenWaaaltah

    This deal looks hideous. Is Danny looking for the most puke worthy, unforgivable, bridge burning deal possible or something? Or is the market just that bad and the timing that wrong?

    The market is that bad. The timing is that wrong. Danny missed his chance for the crazy genius early reboot which could have happened sometime between the 2010 finals loss and now.

    It’s becoming clear that this is the wrong year to push the reboot button. The draft sucks. The FA market is weak. The trade activity sucks. Our young players have low value with other teams. Any moves they make are going to screw up their ability to make much better moves a year from now. Take a long shot and be happy about it because there was nothing better to do in the mean time.

    • grey_skies7

      What is the long shot you are proposing the Celts take? Keeping PP and KG around for one last go around? That kind of long shot is not worth blowing our chance at the Wiggins sweepstakes in my mind.

      • frickenWaaaltah

        The Celtics never win the lottery, forget it.

        This market sucks. Danny made all these commitments and now he wants to weasel out of them in a hurry all of a sudden why? He should suck it up and stick with the team he made until the market gets better…which means at least till the 2014 trade deadline.

        Moving on is one thing. Moving on in such a hurry that you get next to nothing in a terrible market is another thing entirely.

        If they are going to give Paul and Kevin away, it should be to screw over Miami by helping a serious contender like the Spurs or the Thunder, or to send them where THEY want to go as a thank you.

  • jason benn

    ew n too see them alot being divisional rivals that would suck they both would look bad ass in black though

  • jason benn

    hmmm can anyone answer this would it be possible or even feasible to trade kg n pierce plus some picks to cleveland if they are shopping that number one pick we gonna rebuild lets rebuild go crazy lol i know this isnt a storng draft but there are at least 5 good players the celtics could pick whoever they wanted i mean if we r gonna trade them to brooklyn id rather see them go somewhere we dont have to compete with them night in n night out those two would bring that tough grittiness brooklyn will thrive off of dont wanna see either of them what they do when they play us

  • eddysamson

    Hey wheres the update here? Apparently Humph and Wallace aren’t involved any more and JET was added?!