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Your Morning Dump… Did the Celtics make a mistake by passing on Kenyon Martin?

Chuck - Red's Army March 26, 2013 The Morning Dump 19 Comments

Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

Boston coach Doc Rivers admitted Monday that the team gave heavy thought to adding Martin, but never pulled the trigger. Instead, the Knicks signed him to two 10-day contracts beginning in late February and have since added him for the remainder of the season.

Martin is averaging 8.6 points and 5.3 rebounds over 23.1 minutes per game for New York, starting six of the 11 games he’s played for them. The Celtics host the Knicks in the first of two games in a six-day span on Tuesday night at TD Garden.

“I think Kenyon’s been great,” admitted Rivers. “He’s been absolutely fantastic. I’m happy for Kenyon. I’m not happy that he went to the Knicks, but I am happy for him. Because he was out there and we looked at him — a lot of [teams] looked at him — and, in the end, I didn’t care where he ended up, I just wanted him to do well. I don’t know him well, but we’ve always had a very good relationship. Guys like that, you want them to do well. For me, it’s as simple as that.”

Why didn’t it work out for the Celtics and Martin?

“I don’t know,” said Rivers. “We looked at all the guys, we were still looking at guards at the time [after losing Rajon Rondo and Leandro Barbosa to season-ending injuries]. So we were in no hurry at the time for a big. We were looking for more a big of size, if you know what I mean. And by the time we got around to it, he was gone.”

ESPN Boston

I read countless emails, tweets and comments over the past 2-3 months asking why the Celtics weren’t pursuing Kenyon Martin.

I assumed the 35-year-old Martin was finished.  He was forced to play in China after an awful 2011-12 season with the Clippers. His previous season in Denver was mediocre at best. If Martin was any good, somebody would have signed him, right? Hell, Rasheed Wallace and Kurt Thomas had jobs. Like left-handed pitchers, big men will always be at a premium in the NBA.

After unloading Jason Collins for Jordan Crawford, the Celtics replenished their front court by signing DJ White and Shavlik Randolph. Two guys capable of eating up minutes, but unlikely to impact any games. Meanwhile, Martin is playing well and has been exceptional in his last two games; 18 points, 7 rebounds vs Toronto and 19 points, 9-10 FG, 11 rebounds vs Toronto.

While I’ve always respected Martin’s defensive tenacity and toughness, I’ve never been a fan of his personality (or that absurd tattoo of lips on his neck).

But I think it’s obvious. The Celtics blew it. Martin could be helping this team.

Related: CSNNE – Martin showing C’s what might have been 

The rest of the links:

Herald – KG injury not so swell | Pierce, Celtics gear up for Round 3 | ESPN Boston – Power rankings: C’s slide 5 spots | Get right, stay right | Globe – Garnett sidelined | WEEI – 5 reasons not to panic | NY Times – In East turf battle, high ground remains in dispute

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  • Raoul

    If we’re going to talk about Martin in KG’s absence, then we might as well talk about KG squashing the Deandre/Bledsoe trade. That seems so much more significant than the Ken-sanity in NY. That’s just my personal opinion though.

  • http://twitter.com/3324Donald Double D

    Hindsight is 20/20. There is a reason no one wanted him for a reason.

  • dk

    as I said yesterday, I don’t see why they couldn’t just take a chance on him and sign him to a 10 day contract. If he’s insane and pisses everyone off he’s gone in a week. Bad move by the Cs.

    • LA Flake

      it’s the same deal with blatche. i just think doc and danny are too obsessed with playing small ball.

      • ShawnCVD

        Everyone acting like Cs have exclusive first rights to signingsomeone . KMart probably down with the ex nuggets in NY. aBliatch and KG have beef so Boston wasn’t his first choice.

  • Step

    I never seen the problem in giving him a 10 day contract. He’s more proven in the NBA than some of the names that were tossed around and it’s obvious the C’s weren’t necessarily caring about attitude rumors because they took a chance on T-Will and he came with plenty of supposed baggage. Oh well, we’ll get to see what DJ and Shav can do for us since they’ll be given minutes to play now (hopefully).

  • KGino

    KMart averaged a double double as little as 3 years ago… We all knew he’d add some defense and rebounding. It makes ZERO sense that they didn’t grab him and chose DJ White or Shavlik instead. Must be cuz Pierce or KG got beef with him… otherwise there are a million Cs fans smarter than Danny Ainge on this one.

  • KGino

    Also, I see no news here about KG being out at least 2 weeks… According to Yahoo Fantasy Basketball.

    • ShawnCVD

      Yesterday post

  • RedsLoveChild

    Not a mistake by Ainge…Martin was never going to be our ticket to Banner #18…true, White & Shavlik are stiffs who will be gone soon.

    There are reasons why Toronto is in last place…Martin had nice numbers against them, but so did the 20 year old rookie he was playing against {Valanciunas}, who made 9-of-10 FGA and had 15 boards in those 2 games.

    • JG

      My man, we were asking to sign Martin to the end of the year. Youre suggesting that isn’t a better signing than white and shavlik?

  • Cam

    Martin went to the Clippers AFTER he was in China (because of the lockout) he was certainly adequate for the Clips especially in the playoffs. He was rusty coming back in the middle of the season, like JR Smith, and not surprising to see him bounce back after a year, like JR smith

    Don’t understand Docs “Big with size” comment considering they signed DJ white and Oh was chris andersen not a big of size as well? No mention of him ever. No mention of even showing that they had slight interest in him

  • zippittyay

    I like DJ and Shavlik.

    • LA Flake

      me too. dj has a sweet mid-range jumper and shav hustles. i’d rather see them get minutes than bass to be honest.

  • Mike

    2 good games says nothing…. when it coms down to it, Kmart doesnt fit the celtics team concept. The bigs we did get are not going to play come playoff time anyways. Kmart was seen as another Bass who can’t shoot. PLayoff time is for the top 8 guys and KMART would have been sitting the bench.

    • JG

      No offense to you personally, but it’s pretty safe to say that your analysis in this case is just incorrect. 1. He directly “fits in the team concept”. He has always been and still is an excellent one on one defender, and a considerably good help defender. 2. He is in NO way Brandon bass. You’re only saying that because they are both similar heights. Seriously, what other basis do you have of that comparison? Kenyon Martin does not have bad hands, and is a superior defensive player and does not shoot as well. Therefore, he is kind of the opposite of Brandon bass. He also does not seem to care about offensive touches.

      Come playoff time, a rotation of Bradley, lee, pierce, bass, Garnett, green, Terry, Crawford and kenyon Martin would have been terrific.

      • Mike

        I guess I meant to say that he doesnt fit in as far as boston does not want anybody who has a history of distracting from the team. They already tried marbury and nate robinson. Plus, they already have Wilcox to back up KG, and Green backs up Bass. No room for another small big. They must of talked to the clippers also because there had to be a reason they didnt resign him. And living in L.A. i think I remember him not being a good fit for a team wanting to win a championship.

  • http://www.facebook.com/donell.mancel Donell D L Mancel

    YES!! We totally dropped the ball with not offering him a 10 day contract!!!
    Don’t give me the BS that outside of AB, LEE, PP, BASS, KG, JG, JET, CRAWFORD that Kenyon would not have cracked the rotation and contributed in the PLAYOFFS!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/eduardo.balgos Eduardo Balgos

    MANAGEMENT WISE MR AINGE SHOULD HAVE SIGNED K MART AND CHRIS ANDERSEN MAYBE THE CELTICS IS AT NUMBER 2 OR 3 SPOT IN THE EASTERN DVISION. MAYBE AINGE HAS A A CATARACT IN HIS EYES.. LOOK AT WHAT HE GOT D.J WHITE AND SHAVLIK RANDOLF WHO PLAYED IN CHINA BECAUSE NO TEAM IN THE NBA HIRED THEM.NICE JOB DANNY BOY.