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Recap: Just another miserable night in Detroit

Chuck - Red's Army January 20, 2013 Celtics News, Gametime, Recaps 44 Comments

I would like to thank the NBA schedule makers for slotting this game against the AFC Championship. Like most of New England, I didn’t see a whole lot of this mess in Detroit and I’m better off for that.

The Pistons toyed with the Celtics, 103-88.

I’m just going to come out and say it: I HATE THIS TEAM. I love basketball, but they are taking the fun out of it for me. They have the collective attention span and focus of a toddler. There is no commitment to defense on a regular basis. It’s maddening.

I thought they had turned a corner during the 6 game winning streak. I was wrong. Nothing has changed. This roster, as currently constituted, isn’t consistent or talented enough to win in the playoffs.

UPDATE: Doc dropped this bomb to the media:  

“I have to find the right combinations or the right guys or we gotta get some guys outta here.”

The Green:

Courtney Lee (16 points) and Jeff Green (15 points) provided some energy and productivity off the bench. Unfortunately, most of the starters stunk. Kevin Garnett deserves credit for 16 points, 7 rebounds in 30 minutes.

The Gross:

Jason Terry had 4 points in 14 minutes. Brandon Bass generated a goose egg in 10 minutes. Paul Pierce shot a respectable 50 % but managed a measly 10 points. Rajon Rondo had a bizarre stat line: 8 points, 4-16 FG, 9 rebounds, 15 assists and 9 turnovers.

The GreenLights:

Rajon Rondo’s pinpoint full court pass to Avery Bradley

The Grid:

  • Paul Pierce passed Larry Bird and became the franchise’s all-time leader in steals
  • Boston shot 39% and 26% from 3 FG
  • Kevin Garnett was the only start to attempt a free throw

Box score

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  • CPUFC

    Get some guys outta here…starting with you Doc Rivers.

    • Brick James

      Yeah it’s Doc fault… (not)

      • Shawn

        Nuggets could get a better deal. Don’t see why they would take this

        • Me

          then change chandler for anthony randolph or bass for mozgov only + picks from denver

        • Me

          and what better deal has interest in denver? miami heat? ray allen?

          • Shawn

            The won’t make a deal just to make a deal and mozgov has more value than bass right now. We’d have to send picks and bass for mozgov. and even then denver probably doesn’t take a late first round pick and bass for mozgov. As we get closer to the deadline the higher his value.

  • Shawn

    I flipped to it after the pats game and Saw a completely pissed off Bradley as he was the only one playing defense during the 4th and at one point drained 8 seconds off the shot clock picking a man up full court just for no one to rotate and just everyone stand straight up. Then Rondo proceeded to be the only one trying to score on offense until even Bradley gave up and no one got back on D and Prince just recieved a pass for a standing dunk/layup thing.

  • stephanie

    Well Doc just threatened to get rid of some guys..I love Jet, but I really don’t think he’s gelled yet with the team..Maybe he can get a cool cover up on that tattoo.

    • http://www.redsarmy.com KWAPT

      OUCH! Lol..I like him too, but maybe he’s not suited for the media/fan pressure and intense fanbase that is Boston.

      • stephanie

        I just think that he talks the talk but hasn’t backed it up yet, but we do know that he’s capable of making big plays. I’ve been watching some of the Heat games and #20 has had some off nights as well, but you just know he’s going to drop a bomb at any moment..oh well.

        • http://www.redsarmy.com KWAPT

          Well said. And as is the case with the whole team, consistency is what’s needed.

        • Curt

          Haha, number 20…I’m surprised Boston doesn’t call him “number 2″ by now.

          I guess you can’t call him #34 since that was someone’s number in Boston…oh yeah, Rick Carlisle.

  • Jaybahs

    First the Pats? Know this bullshit?! TRADE EVERBODY I don’t even give a shit …

  • http://www.redsarmy.com KWAPT

    More from Doc’s postgame media session: “I don’t think we have committed to being a good basketball team-I think this team wants everything easy..they wanna win easy..The harder you play the easier the game becomes.And I told them the only way you’re going to win easy is you’re going to have to play hard. We’re taking the wrong approach.”

  • Cam

    A fundamental problem is Rondo, like Melo, an all-star starter who will never bring his team to another championship. He simply is not the right stuff.

    • Shawn

      The main problem Right now is Pierce and Bass, they were the only two I saw not giving consistent effort and Pierce did not rotate on D on a regular basis and was late when he did. Bass just seems lost this year. He’s only good when surrounded by a gritty team. He’s too influenced by everyone else.

      • Shawn

        EDIT: only two starters*

        • Me

          pierce is still good, just need a rest, give him a 2 or 3 days rest to be ready come playoffs

          like popavich did

  • Quest

    Aiinge is the one who put this roster together, Doc can only work with what he is given. How many yrs now have we had an unproductive Bench and now a Bench with unfulfilled… “potential”.. IMO Ainge’s ass is the one on the line here. Chemistry/Character should not be underrated and I do go back to the Perk trade on this pt. Did Ray Allan see this writing on the wall when he jumped to a lesser contract???
    Agree with all your points in the article. Took a long time for Doc to finally admit the truth of the locker room problems. So what guys do we get rid of??

    • Shawn

      The Bench has actually been playing good minus Terry. and the only starters I have a problem with are Bass and Pierce. I would only trade terry and bass though at this point and Melo if someone wants him. Rondo plays good D when the entire team plays D Bradley and KG are the only ones that play constant D(Even KG gave up before bradley tonight though).

    • Cam

      I agree in several points, especially on the Ray Allen flight, since I believe he, without ad hominem rancor, saw no future for himself, or the team, with Rondo as the emerging leader.

  • stephanie

    Just a bad weekend in New England.

  • Noori

    Bass and Terry are at the tippy top when it comes to failed expectations.

    Green and Rondo are very inconsistent, its a 50/50 toss up what you get from them each night.

    Pierce has been slumping lately but you can always count on him for monster performances, so I really don’t know what to do with him. Its just hard to trade away a Celtic legend.

    KG is always phenomenal even though he’s on the other side of the mountain. Sully is trying hard. Barbosa has definitely earned so much more play time but just too crowded at the 2, its a real shame.

    Lee/Bradley defense is really improving and I hope that we can keep one or both long term.

    • eddysamson

      Lee’s offense has improved more than his defense if you ask me. Well enough where hes right now a better all around bench guard than JET.

      • Curt

        True, but mainly because defensive skill doesn’t disappear and reappear like a jump shot can.

        His defenese was good to begin with.

  • Willow Green

    i say break it up. and have KG and pierce retire this offseason. Celtics need a new start.

  • celtics33

    Interesting that SO MANY on here were criticizing posters for calling out the team during this mediocre season and boasting that the 6 game winning streak was an “I told you so” and that everything was fine.

    Now after 3 straight losses which puts the Celtics right back at .500 it shows nothing has changed.

    The Pistons blew out the Celtics last time they played so we knew they would come out and destroy a mediocre Detroit team tonight. Instead it was the same old Celtics with no energy to start the game and completely wilting in the 4th quarter.

    The only good thing is Danny knows for sure that moves need to be made. And after Doc’s statements tonight he is painfully aware of the obvious too.

    Looks like everyone who could see this team wasn’t ready to contend as currently constituted was right the ENTIRE TIME, and Doc has realized it now too…

  • Shawncvd

    In past years I’ve stated the Celtics, no matter how craptastic their play was at the time, was a tough out in a seven game series.

    I’m not sure what to think right now…If they’re not a tough out for the post season then I don’t want to witness this gawd-awful regular season. I’m intrigued if they’ll show a little passion next game…

    Bass and Terry for ?? sound good to me. If only to get a proper rebounder, to start Sully, and to get playing time for Barbosa…

  • Shawncvd

    Oh yeah and Andersen signed with Heat today. We coulda used his length and passion…

    • Shawn

      Anderson is a bigger headache then DMC half the time and was suspended for something like child pornography. Don’t want him. Kenyon is still out there somewhere but don’t really want him right now either. Need high character players brought in that might not have the most talent but try to make up for it. (Like ‘Quis and Dooling)

      • Curt

        It wasn’t child porn. It was a girl lying about her age and trying to extort him. Her mom was in on the lies too. He was excused from team obligations temporarily so that he could go deal with it. He was never even charged and his name was cleared.

      • Curt

        Not cool that you would perpetuate such a lie as that about someone because of your ignorance.

  • CPUFC

    Would not trade Terry at all. Bradley, Rondo and JET should share minutes at PG instead of having 2 small guards at once. He is more consistent at 3 pointers in his career than Courtney Lee. Aside from giving Rivers the ass, I would look to move these players. Bass, Lee, Collins, Wilcox, Green and Barbosa (if his heart ain’t in Boston, let the man fly). How f–king stupid was it sending Fab Melo to the D League? Our only two big men are KG and JC and CW has turned out to be J O Neal 2.0

    • Me

      http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b5zjcyh

      Wilson Chandler
      Timofey Mozgov

      For

      Brandon Bass
      Jason Collins
      Leandro Barbosa

      Starting Line-Ups

      Rondo
      Lee
      Pierce
      KG
      Mozgov

      Back-Ups

      Bradley
      Chandler/ Terry For Rotation (In Case Of Injuries)
      Green
      Sully/Wilcox
      Melo/Collins/Wilcox…

  • http://driveittothemoon.com/ Lee in Oregon

    Just read all the comments, people are pissed and I am too. I hate to single anyone out individually, this team sucks as a group…..and as Cousy used to always say….”the fish stinks from the head”.

    DA should be on the hot-seat as much as anyone. He’s one of the best in the biz at the draft, but look at his last 3 guys he’s given the mid-level to and you’ll want to puke. The funny thing is- they built this team to play small-ball with Miami- the sad thing is- they will, only it’ll be in the 1st round.

    • KWAPT

      Rebounders/shot-blockers needed. Apply within.

  • Shawn

    In good news it looks like keeping Fab Melo in the D-League was the right call http://www.celticsblog.com/2013/1/19/3895512/fab-melo-is-becoming-more-consistent

    We have been bad at developing talent yet so far this d-league co-ownership looks to be beneficial and will get better as more teams utilize this. another month and melo might be ready, WOuld like to see more updates on here about the red claws like earlier on.

  • Me

    of course they need a back-up or starter PF right now, they are stuck on kenneth farried

    i know denver will take it

  • Me

    20-20 playoffs picture?

    while Philadelphia Milwaukee Brooklyn Indiana Are All Fighting For A Spot? Even Atlanta?

  • NateB

    Danny will make some kind of significant move before the deadline, but the move will be directed toward the future.

    • Me

      i know its all on next years season sign-in trades…

      but now i know danny ainge don’t want to break the teams chesmistry right, and as for me? i think its bass barbosa collins

  • Curt

    I’m making this post before reading a single comment…I’ve been saying it all season: TRADE BASS. I like him, but he doesn’t help.

    Start Sullinger, get another big, trade Bass, probably trade Terry. Also, change something significant. Change the plays, change the rotation, whatever you can do. I don’t even see the screen plays that worked so well at the beginning of the season. HELP!

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  • Shawn

    The break it ups are a little premature still as we are firmly in the playoff picture and I still like our chances in a seven game series. But if asked who can be traded. Bass and Terry as it’s been for a month. too much commited though so we prob ride out the season