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Your Morning Dump… Where Operation Oden is back

Chuck - Red's Army January 18, 2013 Celtics News, Jason Terry, Leandro Barbosa, The Morning Dump 28 Comments

Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

Greg Oden, the No. 1 pick in 2007 who hasn’t played in an NBA game since 2009 due to a litany of knee injuries, is aiming for a comeback. Part of Oden’s plan is to sign with a team in the next month and get into a training and conditioning program with an eye toward returning to the floor next season. The Celtics are among the teams monitoring Oden’s progress, and sources tell CBSSports.com’s Jeff Goodman that the Spurs and Cavaliers have expressed interest, too.

CBS Sports

“We’re monitoring Greg, like all the NBA teams are, but we have not attempted to sign him. But we are monitoring him and having [conversations] with his people just to see where he’s at.”

“I don’t think [he'd be able to play this year]” Ainge said. “I don’t know any of that for sure, but I would suspect that anybody that would sign him would have their eyes looking more towards his contribution in the future than now.”

WEEI (via Celtics Hub)

Longtime readers of this sight may remember the “Operation Oden” campaign we conducted during the abysmal 2006-07 season. Unfortunately, the existence of all evidence has been wiped from the Internet.

As for Oden, the Celtics, like many teams in the NBA, are keeping an eye on Oden. When you’re a talented 7-footer, teams will always have interest, no matter how fragile your knees are.

As for Leandro Barbosa’s alleged request to be dealt out of Boston:

“It never came out of my mouth like that,” he said.

Asked bluntly if he is trying to get the Celtics to trade him, Barbosa said, “No, I want to play. I want to be here. That’s it.”

Barbosa insists he understands his place in the rotation.

“I knew it was going to be like this when I came here,” he said, echoing comments he made when he signed during the middle of training camp.

Herald

Ainge also refuted the trade request report.

Fans are upset that Doc Rivers isn’t giving Barbosa more minutes, especially with Jason Terry struggling.

Doc has to stick with Terry. He’s a key component of this team with a much higher ceiling than Barbosa.

Barbosa is a nice insurance policy. Keep him on the bench, locked and loaded.

And congratulations to Kevin Garnett and Rajon Rondo for being named All-Star game starters by the fans. KG will be going for the 15th time and Rondo for the 4th time.

The rest of the links:

ESPN Boston – Rondo on “chummy” All-Star experience | Bradley sits out practice | CSNNE – Ainge: No truth to Barbosa trade request | Rondo’s star power about to grow | Herald – Garnett, Rondo star-struck honored | Globe – Celtics getting physical play from Collins |

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  • http://gogreengo17.wordpress.com greensavi0r

    Still need to give Barbosa more chances when the offense is stuck. He can help us in that regard

    • itsGREENtoMe

      terry should be trade bait (included in any deal) this year or next. 3 years @5mil for a 35 year old is questionable (however slightly in this case). he’s no starter as we saw, as w/any shooter he’s streaky (as we are seeing), and his defense is avg at best.
      I like him, good company man, good PR, but i have seen to often looking lost on offense (which is troubling). i think we had the same w/Lee initially but then he “bought in” and played the role expected of him and when he decided on his shot and his offense _you could see it in his confidence_and in the result. barbosa needs more time on the floor ! doc should be able to gauge him relatively quickly -if his game is on or not -which he is not! give hime the last 2minutes of Q1 or Q2. he’ll will run his own 7sec offensive sets. what do you have to lose -RR walking the ball up bc he tired?? i am a DOC fan but really upset w/his sturborness

      • Curt

        Good point. Who would ever want to keep any players around that are over 35???

        SHOULD be trade bait is a stretch. COULD be, sure. But he has as many rings as Paul Pierce (read: experienced/wise/clutch). He didn’t sign up to be a starter. He has always been a role player.

        I just don’t see justifying that Terry SHOULD be traded just because Doc hasn’t figured out how to get his rotation perfect…yet.

        • itGREENtoMe

          should is ‘tight’ way of putting it, i can see your point. but in order to right the terms (3 years)i feel we should include him in any trade. think of it this way: next year it won’t certainly be easier: and the following year (@37/38)it’ll be slim to possible. does this team really need more (experience/wise/clutch) players. we need young studs challenging each other to play better.
          we have the ol’wise folk to lean on, we need players w/sullingers drive, bradleys will/tenacity, and greens athletic ability(ok greens potential before his ordeal) … look at bass (why is he dribbling and drive when he’s a catch and straight up jump shooter, terry is the opposite –off a dribble or 2 he shoot better, having to fight thru ray allen schemes isn’t for him. Plus he’s always thrown up a lot of FGA and his avg has been on the decline (from 50.1% in 04-05 in DAL to 42.5% this year) my SHOULD is just wishful thinking
          –I bleed green for many decades and just where we are today compared to the not so long distant past I am very content w/this organization honestly, I haven’t yet convinced my bias green conscience that we can win it all this year.
          Have you?
          Good test coming up with CHI, NY, ATL, MIA, SAC this month and ORL, LAC,LALx2,DENx2, before 2/21 trade deadline.

          • Curt

            I guess I’m of the perspective of helping KG and P2 have a second ring.

            I don’t have a problem with keeping Terry for now. I know how legit he is in crunch time. Asking if we need more clutch players? Of course we do. We need as many as we can get. If we have to sacrifice age, then that is another consideration. But would you rather have the 2012 Washington Wizards? Would you trade KG and Terry for JaVale McGee and Nick Young?

            Youth is fine, but the greats never had any trouble kicking ass in their 30s. The answer is to find a rotation that works with who we have and who we want to keep.

            Chuck is right that Terry has higher potential and that he is a key component. If we find a way to make him a threat again, like Dallas did against the Lakers (damn that was cold hearted of them), then the second string will be deadly.

            If we can’t then I think it’s a syptom of a different problem that can’t be solved with trades…unless we get Bill Russell back.

  • Cam

    Terry is our guard version of Sheed…..except worse….and we actually have depth behind him

    • Ray D

      @ Cam

      Ouch!

  • RedsLoveChild

    It`s all about the Benjamins…Terry is playing only because Ainge aggressively pursued him, and gave him $16M over 3 years. Barbosa is into the Celtics for only $1M.

    Oden is physically cursed, he has the knees of a cadaver. Things will never work out for him.

    • http://www.science-pope.com mrchumpy

      Spot on.

  • http://www.greenheadzblog.blogspot.com ChiefGreenHeadz

    I totally agree that Doc should game plan to include Barbosa as a Vinnie Johnson instant-offense kind of player when things bog down and the team needs a lift with scoring. The middle of the 4th quarter against the Hornets was a perfect example of a time that we could have used him for an offensive boost when we couldn’t buy a basket and all we needed were maybe two or three. He’s a drive-first, bigger-than-you-think guard who is perfect for those moments, though to be fair he, too, has struggled earlier in games in the recent past. That said, Jason Terry is ultimately the answer. He’s struggling to find his comfort zone in the offense, but he’s very clutch and he’s a proven winner. As for Oden…I say as long as Danny loads up the contract with health contingencies and incentive clauses, go for it. He’ll be about as skillful a bench-nail as Sean Williams was last year and a lot more stylish to boot.

  • Andrew

    Barbosa has only played very well every opportunity the Celtics have given him…..and we reward him with NO playing time? He should be playing a minimum of ten minutes per game to spell Rondo.

  • piecz

    Best choice for Oden would be Phoenix. Probably best medical staff in the league.

    • KY Celts fan

      Steve Nash and Grant Hill both leave Phoenix and immediately miss significant time due to injury. Coincidence? I think not.

      • Curt

        That’s because they’re older than Yoda.

        Grant Hill got healthier in Phoenix, as did Stoudemire and others.

        piecz is right.

        • Jared

          Older than Yoda! Ha! Classic.

        • KY Celts fan

          I know they got healthier in Phoenix. that was the joke. they left Phoenix and suddenly couldn’t play anymore.

      • Curt

        actually, this is was the result of a real quick google search

        http://valleyofthesuns.com/2012/04/05/secret-behind-phoenix-suns-elite-training-staff/

    • RedsLoveChild

      If Phoenix is the NBA`s “best-for-your-health” location….Portland & Boston are battling it out for the being the worst!

      • Curt

        Portland maybe…Boston is more like “senior living” where the residents are expected to sustain varies injuries.

        • RedsLoveChild

          Boston might as well be called “God`s Waiting Room”!

          {Bias, Lewis, Green, Wilcox, etc.}

          • KY Celts fan

            that’s in poor taste.

          • Curt

            Brutal

          • Chief

            That’s not even remotely funny

  • Astarot

    I understand next year perspective in Oden’s case and Cs need for the big. But the guy who hasn’t played on NBA level for what 3 – 4 seasons now it’s not a good idea. Considering his injury history and how much he’d have to catch up I wouldn’t take him. I bet he’s still talented cuz not everything you can lern but Boston’s had too many fragile players in the past.

  • dk

    I doubt they can afford to sign him anyway. I’m sure some dumb team will overpay him. He’s not worth more than the min.

  • Curt

    Maybe the Jet has a higher ceiling than the Blur; but if I had to travel today and my choices were between a Ford Mustang that seems to be in great condition and some lamborghini that was only firing on 6 cylinders…

  • P Funk

    I was all about Oden back then, but these days I prefer Destination Durant

    • Curt

      I would’ve taken Larry Bird, as is, during the Hornet game.