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Your Morning Dump… Where Doc should have seen this coming

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) January 17, 2013 Celtics News, Doc Rivers, The Morning Dump 34 Comments

Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

With his team’s confidence maybe overflowing a bit too much amidst a season-high six-game winning streak, Rivers wrote, ‘Guard down,’ after Tuesday’s practice session. With that in mind, he blamed himself after his team did just that during Wednesday’s 90-78 loss to the New Orleans Hornets.

“We didn’t play well — just let our guard down, I thought, a little bit,” said Rivers. “I felt it [Tuesday] and didn’t do anything about it so I’m kicking myself more than them. I always write stuff down, after practices and my first note – ‘guard down, guard down’ – I think I wrote it three different times and I thought we came out and played like that.”

ESPN Boston:   Celtics let guard down

That video goes out to all the people who jumped off the bandwagon after one bad loss.  Do you not remember the past 2 weeks?

In case you haven’t been following the Celtics the past few years, this is probably the least surprising loss of the season.  You have the guys feeling a big cocky after a six game winning streak, you have the distraction of “Riversdance”, and you have a pretty big game against a Chicago team the C’s always struggle with tomorrow.

This was a bad loss, and it falls on everybody.  I think Doc got so caught up in the Father-Son stuff that he made plenty of mistakes.

I guess Doc and the Celtics are…. (pause for dramatic sting) …. human.

“There was a lot of inconsistency especially after the first eight minutes,” said Paul Pierce. “We got out to a good lead and then we just broke down too many times. We got momentum, we’d lose it, just break downs defensively. It was just an inconsistent night on both ends of the court.”

And for now, that is how this loss can be characterized … as just one of those nights.

“You’re human,” Rivers said. “You have them. You start feeling good about yourselves and you take a step back.”

It’s happened to all of us.  Yes, even you.  I’m sure you can scan your memory for an instance where you felt good about something in your life, got a little cocky, and then got lazy about something and screwed it up.  It’s happened to me a bunch.  It’s how I got involved with Chuck.

So Doc should have seen it coming.  Actually, he did see it coming, but he screwed up and let it slide when he shouldn’t have.  He knows it, the team knows they screwed up, so we move on.

The rest of the links:

CSNNE:  Garnett: Davis a freak of nature  |   Austin Rivers draws inspiration from Doc’s struggles  |  KG on possible All Star nod:  If it happens, I’m more than gracious  |  ESPN Boston:  Austion 1, Doc 0  |  KG “gracious” if voted to All Star Game  |  WEEI:  Austin Rivers wouldn’t rule out Celtics in future  |  KG:  Davis makes me look like a midget  |  Herald:  Mom torn between husband, child  |  KG, Rondo look like All Stars  |  Son rises for Rivers |  This isn’t a very good read but numbers jump off page to tell story  |  Globe:  Relatively painful loss  |  Doc’s mixed emotions  |  Austin gets the best of Dad’s team

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  • http://www.djkahn.com DJ Kahn

    Over at CelticsBlog “fans” are jumping off bridges and calling for heads. Jeeze.

    • Stephanie

      Sometimes it’s a little too extreme on that site.

    • LAF

      hey, i want head, too!
      oh. nevermind!

      • Garnett’sGrl

        Lol, that’s funny…..

      • Curt

        Well John did write in this very article that “You have the guys feeling a big cocky…”

      • Caterpillar from Italy

        Tommy point for you! LOL!

  • LAF

    that was a nice cheer by the fans when austin entered the game. was nice to see. very classy. the best fans in the world.

  • RedsLoveChild

    What team is paying Doc`s salary?

    9:07 remaining before halftime…Boston leads, 29-22…NO`s Brian Roberts gets fouled, leaves game with ankle injury…..Doc is free to choose who shoots the FT`s…Austin Rivers is on the floor, and has the worst FT% {56%} of any Hornet…Doc chooses Aminu {76%}, who hits both FT`s.

    • Brick James

      Agreed. He should’ve put his son on the line.

    • Curt

      Good point. That decision lost the entire game for the Celtics. Thanks for brining it up.

      Don’t you have a different team to go comment on?

      • RedsLoveChild

        Those two FT`s turned out to be the start of a 16-3 Hornet run.

        Oh well, at 1:01 pm, at least you do come clean and admit to being “in the dark”!!

        • Curt

          haha, thanks Red…I still think this is a straw man argument though.

        • Curt

          or a “reds” herring…haha

  • eddysamson

    I dont see much to freak out over. People weren’t hitting jumpers and the Hornets were getting away with a complete shut-down of the paint. If the refs are going to let a team stand in the paint all night and wack whoever approaches without any kind of whistle (3 sec, fouls) the Cs are going to stop trying to go to the paint.

    thats EXACTLY what happened. our problem was a lack of transition offense or fast break offense to get around that coupled with a bad shooting night.

    thats not going to happen in many games at all.

    moving on…

    • eddysamson

      Also I just want to add that the lack of transition offense is almost squarely on Rondo and Doc. Rondo for doing half-court every possession he was out there even after it was well established they had shut down the paint and the C’s couldnt shoot for shit.

      Doc for not using Barbosa at all or Clee enough. Barbosa knows how to get to the rim in a game like that…

      • LAF

        BUT RONDO WANTS TO RUN! He just doesn’t have anyone that can keep up with him on the team. Except for Avery, Jeff Green, Courtney Lee, Barbosa, JET, Wilcox…..That’s why Rondo is actively recruiting Rudy Gay and Josh Smith so that, you know, he’ll have guys who can keep up with him! But running is hard. It takes energy. And because Rondo is our best player, our leader, our MVP, our designated driver, everyone’s go-to babysitter and all that and so much more, he needs to rest during games. Which he does quite often.

        • eddysamson

          I honestly have no idea what your point is.

          • Dannyboy

            i believe it was sarcasm.. not entirely sure though

          • eddysamson

            I am pretty fluent in the art of sarcasm, even on the internet. I feel that post was so sarcastic it might have turned into a double sarcastic that cancelled it self out? Okay no I have no idea.

          • Curt

            Pretty sure the point was the final sentence…the rest of it appears to have been all part of the setup for the brilliant punch line.

      • PlayaPlease!

        This was a perfect situation to insert Blur….stagnant, lazy offense, guys were way too cocky, settling for jumpers, this team needed to see someone get inside the paint. Blur lives in there. Watching this team melt down, it was painfully obvious Doc needed to shake it up some. Doc even recognized this was coming, so be proactive about it & play the Blur!!!!!
        Playa please!

  • Stephanie

    FREE THROWS! They missed 10-16 and the other team made theirs. No use going to the paint to get fouled when they were going to miss those points too.

    I looked at box score and Aminu had 18 pts- 12 came from F/T’s!

  • Quest

    Yes you have off days but The problem is this has become a pattern of behaviour…. no energy, no aggression, no consistency, playing down to the competition… how many games in the last 2 yrs have we said its only one game just move on.

    • Stephanie

      How many other fans of teams do you think say the same thing? It’s not just a C’s issue all teams have lost to a team that the fans felt should’ve won against, then the next day the fans question the strength of the team. Nothing new and that will never change.

      • KGino

        Yep, occasionally teams like the thunder lose to the hornets too. I don’t see what the big deal is, I thought we Lost the game more than they won it. Fans who are panicking from one game are retards and don’t know the NBA.

        Any time you play a game, any game, and you play it at a way lower level than you’re accustomed to playing, you shouldn’t feel too bad. The other guys didn’t really beat you or take a win from you, you just had a bad game that was easily winnable if you played the way your used to.

        It’s like losing on the first level in Mario… That’s on you. No goombas or koopa troopas took you out, you just let your guard down and fell down a crack. Game over. It’s not like when you’re on the very last level, and you’re getting frustrated because its so hard for you to beat it.

        We let our guard down, that’s all. I expect a much better effort vs the bulls and thibs.

  • KGino

    If doc had noticed an electric fence around he paint, why not tell the guys, “hey, I’m going to bench you if you take a contested jumper outside of the paint. I want you guys touching the paint at least once every possession before you shoot otherwise I’m benching you.” That’s what I would have told them.

    • Curt

      I agree with you. I still think Doc is a bigger weakness than Rondo. I love the guy, but he frustrates the hell out of me by the things he DOESN’T do.

      • KGino

        I love Doc… but as a fan watching that game, the vibe just felt like we weren’t ever going to make a push. And I felt that on the first play of the 2nd half, an easy N.O. dunk.

        If I felt it then, I can imagine someone who knows the team as well as Doc would have felt it too. I don’t see why he waited so long to put Barbosa in.. a guy who goes straight to the rim almost any time he shoots. Instead he leaves in JET, hoping that he’ll get hot and hit a few 3s to keep us in it.

        • KGino

          At least he took the blame at the end of the game.. He knew he made mistakes. As long as he learns from them we’re good.

        • Stephanie

          That was the most puzzling question I had about Doc last night. He knew that Barbosa would lower his head and go straight to the paint. I didn’t understand that, and I usually don’t question Doc too much.

          • Caterpillar from Italy

            It’s tough to take decisions – right decisions – when all your players are playing D-league level.

    • eddysamson

      Well dude do you remember watching the game? They tried most possessions to go into the paint but had to back out every single time…

      • Curt

        I’ll admit, I haven’t watched the game yet, but some of you guys (John/Chuck/KWAPT too) usually have a similar analysis to mine.

        I agree with KGino that it appears that Doc has learned something, but I feel like he just isn’t making the moves that Popovich would make. I also think Docs KNOWS the right moves but he is hesitant. Maybe I’m just in the dark because I watch from the couch instead of the bench.

      • Stephanie

        Didn’t help that some of the Hornets were camping out with a bond fire in the paint…I was more so disappointed in the F/T’s..missing 10-16 is atrocious. Just those points alone would’ve helped.