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Taking Stock: Celtics – Bobcats

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) January 15, 2013 Taking Stock 26 Comments on Taking Stock: Celtics – Bobcats

After every game, we’ll take stock of how each individual performance affects the player’s overall value.


Offense:     Defense:      Overall: 

He was 4-4 from 16-23 feet, and despite down-shifting into 3rd gear after starting the game going all out in 5th gear, he still came up with the big play when needed.

 Offense:        Defense:        Overall: 

No, he couldn’t hit a shot… except when it mattered late.  Also, four of his rebounds were on the offensive end.

Offense:        Defense:         Overall: 

One of the things I love about Pierce… he had an OK game.  It wasn’t anything you’ll remember.  And he still dropped 19 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, a block and a steal.  He struggled with his shot, settled for jumpers, but still did other things that make you look at the box score and realize he can have an impact sometimes seemingly without trying.

Offense:         Defense:         Overall: 

I just wish he wouldn’t hesitate when he got the ball.  He’s such a big guy and he’s not clumsy.  Maybe that’s wishful thinking.

Still, he was automatic with the jumper early and he defended the rim.  Nice job defensively.

 Offense:         Defense:       Overall: 

Could. Not. Miss.  The Celtics will be very tough to beat if he’s got this kind of jumper working on a regular basis.   Not that I expect him to shoot 57% from 3… but if he’s a threat to, then suddenly you can add “creates space” to his resume… right below “makes the guy he’s guarding cry during time outs.”



 Offense:         Defense:       Overall: 

Slowly, Jeff Green is putting together a nice stretch of games off the bench.

 Offense:       Defense:        Overall: 

I’m starting to think the lack of a true back up point guard is hurting Jason Terry the most.  The 2nd unit can get stops and run for overall offense, but JET needs to get set up more.  It’s something to watch.


 Offense:        Defense:        Overall: 

Lee is really starting to get comfortable in this new role.  And he’s come up with one of my favorite quotes of the year:

“If you want to get an easy layup, you can get out there and play defense and get a steal,” Lee said. “Pressure the ball, force them to shoot a long shot, get a long rebound, get on the rim.”

That’s just beautiful.  It all starts with defense.  It’s a lesson to the kids out there who want to shoot their way to 30 points….

…. get a couple of steals, deflections, and rebounds, and if you finish 4 or 5 fast breaks, you’ve got 10 easy points and your team has a lead.  Then you don’t have to work as hard on offense.

 Offense:         Defense:        Overall: 

The kid was plagued with foul problems, but he still hit all his shots and got 5 rebounds.  Plus, he continues to take charges.  He’s moving his feet well out there.


 Offense:         Defense:        Overall: 

You know, in limited minutes here and there, Collins isn’t horrible.


 Offense:         Defense:        Overall: 

This underhand scoop shot he hit is one of the craziest baskets I’ve seen.


   Substitutions:       Overall: 

I know some of you will say Sullinger should start, and I admittedly was buying into that right before Bradley returned.  But even though Bass is struggling a bit, I still like Sullinger in his current role.  He’s still playing more than Bass, and I’m enjoying the way the minutes are being dispersed.


Six in a row.  Say what you want about the overall effort and lapses in hustle…. six in a row.

Meanwhile, other than Brooklyn, the rest of the East is kind of scuffling right now.  All of a sudden, the standings don’t look so bad.

There’s plenty of time.

Hope the plastic people can get it together to enjoy the rest of the season


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  • Curt

    All these wins distract me from what the Celtics must do to prepare for the playoffs. Obviously we need our guys healthy, but there are teams out there that we won’t beat playing the same ole game.

    We still need a big rebounder don’t we? I mean, Sullinger pulls them down, but he is only good for 6 to 10 a night. We need multiple rebounders. Sure Lee and Rondo help, but the NBA is about Matchups. We have to match up against (I really hate to admist this) Joakim Noah and Brook[e] Lopez if we want to make it back to the finals.

    Are we ready for every matchup? Are we ready for San Antonio?

    I realize that we got it done against Tyson Chandler and Gortat and Scola…and Roy Hibbert and Andray Blatche…okay I guess you can ignore my question.

    • MJ

      Lopez is a terrible rebounder for his size. I think the name you’re looking for is Kris Humphries.

      • KGino

        The only two teams who will be able to beat us in the Eastern Conf. playoffs are Chicago & Miami. We match up well with Miami.. Chicago not so much.

        We can worry about the western conf. when we make the finals 😛

      • Curt

        You’re right about Kardashian, or does he have to change his last name to West now?

        I was just afraid I’d get badgered for admitting it. haha. Lopez can still score over our little guys (Little being 6’9″).

        KGino…who said I was worrying?

    • kg215

      We would be fine against San Antonio more than other good teams from the West but let’s cross that bridge when we get there. The Thunder are the best team in the West, and the Clippers and Grizzlies both have more talent than the Spurs. The Spurs are always dangerous and their defense is better this year but they are not terrifying like they used to be when they were by far the best defensive team in the NBA.

  • Chuck – Red’s Army

    Garnett goes 2-11 and gets the yellow arrow? I call BS on that.

    • 4 offensive boards pulled it up from red

    • Curt

      you think he deserved a red arrow? Wouldn’t that mean he regressed?

    • Larry Legend

      I agree!!! Obviously a soft spot for KG on this blog…it’s cool I love him too!

    • Reggie35RIP

      Yeh red arrow down for KG on the offensive end, even if it’s just for one game.

  • KGino

    Point proven yet again.. Rondo can shoot. Soon all Celtics fans will realize this.

    • LA Flake

      I still groan every time he pulls up for a J. Honestly, I’m NOT okay with Rondo shooting jumpers. Yes. He needs to shoot them when he’s wide open to keep the defense honest. But it’s a shot that our opponents most want us to take. Unfortunately, it’s a shot that’s ALWAYS available because our opponents just don’t respect it. Hell, I wouldn’t respect it either. Just look at our spacing when Rondo is off the floor. We go from playing 4 vs 5 on offense to 5 vs 5.

      Also, how much longer is Rondo going to botch 2-1, 3-1 fast breaks? Will Rondo ever pass the ball to his streaking teammates? What other “elite” point guards suck as much in this regard?

      • You really gotta pick your battles when it comes to Rondo bashing. The morning after he goes 4-4 from 16-23 feet, during a season in which he’s shooting 49% from that spot, is not really the time to get on his shooting.

        I’m not even going to go down this whole “rondo botches fast breaks” road. After the game you’ve got the opposition gushing about how he puts the ball wherever he wants…. and you’re going to sit here and say this?

        Friendly advice… take it or leave it… pick your battles.

        • KY Celts fan

          well said.

        • LA Flake

          i’m sorry i’m not a fan boy. i’ll ask you to sign me up for his fan club when he plays hard again. which will be around early to mid february, wouldn’t you say?

          • kg215

            You are not a fanboy you are a HATER. You are just as biased (if not more so) just with your hate. Yeah you are pretending you are objective by saying you are “not a fanboy” but blindly hating someone is no different.

          • LA Flake

            I do hate punks, so I suppose i am a hater. Blindly though? I guess…I’ve only followed this particular punk on my favorite team in the world for *only* seven years. Point well taken!

        • Curt

          Yeah John…Rondo needs to play hard.

          Play hard like Dwight Howard, Greg Oden, Yao Ming, Dwyane Wade, Derrick Rose, and everyone else who gets injured before the playoffs.

      • eddysamson

        How? This season, every time he pulls up, I know hes going to make it. And you know what he makes it more often than I see him miss it.

        Your points in the second paragraph are valid though. I hate that shit too. Especially when he passes on the fastbreak to someone who had no idea it was coming because Rondo had a perfect layup opportunity.

      • Curt

        First of all, the only reason you hate to see Rondo miss is because you love him so much that you hate when it doesn’t go in. Get over it. He’s as good as anyone else with his wide open jumper that they just give him…Better than Terry apparently.

        Second, champions view the regular season as practice for the playoffs. Rondo is letting his guys learn to expect/handle sick passes.

        I am from Dallas, but I thought that all Celtics fans knew that real basketball start in the Spring.

        • LA Flake

          8 new guys trying to find their way on the team and our record just hovering above .500 and rondo is letting kemba walker blow by him all night because he’s just waiting for the playoffs to start? hmm…that makes sense since in all likelihood walker’s bobcats won’t make the playoffs and rondo won’t have to see him. but wait a minute…rondo lets every PG blow him by.

          • Curt

            I’m not saying he CAN’T stop Kemba if he tried. He could. If Avery Bradley can, then Rondo can. The play you’re talking about was pretty late in the game and didn’t affect the outcome at all.

            Do you understand how help defense works? What should happen is part of what is called defensive rotation. Brandon Bass is terrible at it, and Chris Wilcox goes up and down. And if Rondo tries to man-up Kemba, in all likelihood, he’d get called for a block.

            When we had, LOL, Kareem Abdul-Perkins the rotation was fantastic. Rondo didn’t need to stop everyone then, so it didn’t show through.

            Effort isn’t always the problem. The idea is to set up a defense that doesn’t require Rondo and AB to run themselves ragged.

            Am I wrong?

          • DJ Kahn

            Rondo is smarter than you, Flake. He uses part of the regular season to try/test things out and learn what to expect from teammates, as well as set expectations for them. Just like a leader should, I might add. When we get to the playoffs he takes over if need be. He knows that ultimately it’s better to have a well-oiled machine operating on all cylinders and the regular season is when you develop that.

  • Spancilhill

    Can I give a shout out to my man Jason Collins. A yellow arrow… He got a three point play in the first quarter, he pulled down 2 defensve rebounds and 2 offensive rebounds AND got 2 assists… Man that for Jason Collins is his most impressive stat line yet! All in only 8 or 9 minutes… Give him a green arrow!!!!

    • KGino

      Don’t forget about that awkward Jason Collins SMASH SHOT off the glass.. that was the exact opposite of putting “touch” on a shot lol. COLLINS SMASH

  • john

    I don`t know if flake refers to goofiness or drugs , but laflakes Rondo criticisms are embarrassingly dumb.I`ve gone from thinking that he has never actually played basketball(or any competetive team sport for that matter) to being rather firmly convinced that he /she has only recently been exposed to basketball as a spectator sport.Of course ,lala could just be a complete idiot.Now he/she is going to accuse me, and by implication Rondo`s teammates and opponents of being a fanboy as opposed tp a jilted critic/girl.Armchair athletes have the unfortunate habit of forgetting tghat in an actual basketball game , you have actual opponents trying to thwart you.Not so on your keyboard.