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Your Morning Dump… Where the Celtics are highly interested in DeMarcus Cousins

Chuck - Red's Army December 29, 2012 Around the NBA, Celtics News, Rumors, The Morning Dump 106 Comments

Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

Front-office sources say that Boston and Detroit, just to name two teams, have let it be known that they are highly interested if and when Cousins does become available. Rest assured there will be more.

Even after all the warnings about the 22-year-old coming out of Kentucky and all the bad shots he’s hoisted in Sacramento, where he doesn’t seem interested in listening to anyone and also suffers from the lack of a proven point guard who can make the game easier for him, Cousins will continue to draw considerable interest because there are so few young bigs these days with his size, skill and mobility.

ESPN

News of the Celtics interest in DeMarcus Cousins is about as surprising as my interest in Olivia Munn or John’s interest in gin.

The next step in our blatant speculation is whether or not the Kings will move their tumultuous and talented big man. ESPN’s Chad Ford offered up this during a live chat:

Cousins new agent will be pushing hard for a trade. They, along with the rest of the NBA, think the Kings ownership/management is dysfunctional and they want him out of there. The problem for the Kings is that Cousins is their best player, but given his frequent issues with coaches/teammates, teams aren’t willing to give equal value back in return. In addition, I’m hearing that there’s a split between the GM and ownership on what they want in return. Do they get back established players and try to win now or do they want more young prospects/draft picks? In other words, it’s a giant mess ..

Our readers made it clear, they are not interested in offering up a package that includes Avery Bradley, Jared Sullinger and Fab Melo. Bradley has almost become an untouchable player. John doesn’t want any part of Cousins either, equating him to a steroid tainted needle (or something).

I want Cousins in Boston. I’d love to make a deal w/o giving up Bradley, but that’s not a deal breaker for me. Bill Simmons seems to think the C’s could come up with a package that excludes AB.

Hope you’re ready for about 6 more weeks of wild speculation and rumor.

(h/t Bleacher Report)

The rest of the links:

ESPN Boston – Mailbag: Don’t panic | Top storylines of 2012 | Globe – Seeking consistency | Warriors preview | CSNNE – Patience in Maine (Fab Melo) | How long until Celtics make a move? | Is this as good as Celtics will be? | Herald – Rivers, Garnett call for more consistency

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  • Drew

    If I remember correctly, Bill Simmons said last season that Avery Bradley is his favorite Celtic since Larry Bird. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Avery Bradley is a living, breathing example of what it means to be a Celtic. He works hard, he hustles every minute he is on the floor. He practices hard, he gets along with team mates, he’s coachable. He’s humble, he inspires the team to play hard. Why would you give that up for a half assed head case who ruins locker rooms and can’t get along with team mates/coaches. You guys that are okay with Bradley leaving make me sick.

    And by the way, the same people that want to see Cousins in Boston are going to be the same people calling for his head when he starts acting like a moron and letting his ego loose. You guys want this kid and all of his baggage? Really? Think about it.

    • KGino

      People who are willing to trade Bradley for Cousins are unintelligent fans only capable of reading box scores. They have no perception of defense, character, heart, or hustle.

      As bad as we need a big, we are not desperate enough to be giving up a major part of our future for this head case. I’m sure Ainge feels the same way. AB stays.

      • CoachBo

        Ah, all the hyperbole … about a small guard with two bad shoulders and a very small sample size of success. I cannot wait for the comparisons to Bill Russell and Bob Cousy to begin. This place feels just like CelticsBlog.

        You guys are ridiculous. And you’re going to be crushed when you see how little impact Bradley’s return has on the mess that this team is.

        • Dj

          This team is less a mes than the Red Sox joke that is being paraded around. atleast the C’s will make playoffs and do damage which is more than can be said about CheringShits product he has constructed.

        • jon

          Too bad Rondo dissagrees.
          I beg to disagree as well.
          Cousins is not gonna save this franchise from its current dolldrum..the guy is unathletic..slow footed..and shot a paltry 41% from the field.

          I would certainly wait things out and not rush for a trade with a bigman that has too much red flag.

          • Dj

            where do you get your facts? most every expert and NBA exec says the exact opposite, that he is extremely athletic and mobile and quick.

      • Double P

        You’re acting as if once AB returns our team is elite. The guy had a great two month stretch last year when the team was gelling and playing really well together. Spoiler alert that stretch was more a product of KG playing amazing in a contract year than AB. Avery was hurt his rookie yr with ankle injuries, just had double shoulder surgery and you think hes the elixir to our small poor rebounding team? Give me the 7footer that will get you 20/10 a night

        • KGino

          Cousins isn’t even averaging 17/10 for the KINGS right now, what makes you think he can avg. 20 & 10 in green?

          Once AB returns, we ARE elite.. on the defensive side of the ball. You wanna talk stats?? #1 Defense last year with RR AB PP BB & KG starting, 20-6 with that lineup (some stats fo yo ass).. and you guys want to trade AB before he’s even back to play one game.. for a guy who is renowned in the league for his bad attitude..

          YOU GUYS are the ones who are ridiculous.

          • jon

            Agreed…AB changed the way we play defense its not even funny..I certainly of the believer that had we had AB against the cHeat, we could have won.

          • Drew

            Seriously, thank you.

          • eddysamson

            they are so fucking out there with their comments about AB I dont get it. Drew pretty much echoed exactly what I said in some posts the last few days on this issue. Hes an example for the rest of the team.

          • Reggie35RIP

            AB’s a piece of the puzzle. Yes he’s a great defender etc. But one player doesn’t make a defense. He plugs up the perimeter, but we still need the guys down low to play their part.

            He definitely makes the C’s a better team – no doubt. But the team as a whole needs to get their shit in order. Adding back in one player isn’t going to miraculously fix all of our problems. How many boards did AB average last season? ;p

            Which leads me to Cousins. I’m all for it as long as it doesn’t mean giving up AB or Sully. Which is going to make it fucking hard to work something out. :\

          • Reggie35RIP

            @KGino
            You have to take those stats with a grain of salt. Obviously team defense relies on the whole team playing good defense. Not just one guy.

          • CoachBo

            You are nuts. Bradley changes nothing about this team defensively. Nothing.

          • KGino

            “Bradley changes nothing defensively”… Well you sir, are a either a complete moron or you didn’t watch a lick of celtics basketball last season. One of the most wrong statements I’ve ever heard a fan say on this site.

    • LAF

      Wow Drew…you’re actually making sense here. What the hell is going on???

      So basically, Drew, what you’re saying is AB is the AntiRondo?

      • Drew

        We don’t have to disagree on everything. Eventually our opinions will cross paths. Yes, I’d agree with him being the anti Rondo.

  • TNCeltic

    No. Keep him in California. His drama is the last thing we need. How would that help build the team? Isn’t working together part of the problem? How would bringing him here possibly help?

  • Sarahluree

    I think people will be much less interested in trading AB when he’s back on the floor, game after game, showing us what it is to be a Celtic. Personally, I wouldn’t trade anyone for Cousins…

  • Double P

    People what is it that this team needs? Another undersized two guard or a 7footer that avgs 18/11? If the kings are willing to take a Bradley/Sullinger package then trust me this deal is done.. its just if Ainge can somehow convince them that is enough.

    So suprised to see how many people think AB is untouchable. I love his defense its amazing but let’s be realistic.. he’s an undersized 2guard who can’t stay healthy. It’s obvious ainge agrees with me

    • eddysamson

      why does his average change every time you post and yet its never his actual average?

    • CoachBo

      Because the majority of posters on this board don’t understand team basketball.

      They just love their favorite player.

      The conflation of Bradley’s skillset on this board and CelticsBlog is comical – almost Jordan-esque.

      We beat the Heat with him – uh, sure. He’d single-handedly slow LeBron down in games 6 and 7. Absurd.

      We will be an elite defensive team when he returns? Name me one player in the history of the NBA who actually turned a bad defensive team into a good one with his presence?

      Bill Russell. Not an undersized two, which are a dime a dozen in this league.

      The Silly Season has arrived on the subject of Avery Bradley. Of course Ainge would trade him to Sactown for Cousins.

      Ainge isn’t dumb enough not to.

      • KGino

        You’re an idiot plain and simple. Go to YouTube, and search for some Avery Bradley mix tapes cuz u clearly haven’t seen the dude play defense

        • KGino

          And no one is comparing him to Jordan or Russell. But if you ask NBA PLAYERS who the best defensive guard in the league is, ABs name will come up. So for you to say he changes nothing about this team defensively is a complete ignorant statement. I can’t wait for Avery to come back and prove you know nothing about the nba.

  • RedsLoveChild

    Demarcus is what happens when “Cousins” get married.

    The only way this trade happens is….if Danny Ainge is determined to commit “career suicide”!

    • KGino

      we agree for once!

      • RedsLoveChild

        I knew you could do it…excellent progress, keep up the good work!!

        • KGino

          I’m not counting on it happening again!

          • RedsLoveChild

            You`ve come so far…why go back to the “dark” side???

          • KGino

            You are a pessimist and I am an optimist.. that is why this will never work between us! lol

          • RedsLoveChild

            As a so-called pessimist…I will either be “right” or “pleasantly surprised”.

            See, there is no “down-side” to it.
            Either way, you win!

          • KGino

            I’d rather have faith in my team now (especially when I think they can recover from a slow start) than tell everyone we’re doomed and be proved wrong later (essentially due to lack of faith).

            You do your thing, I’ll do mine.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Nothing wrong with having faith…when the circumstances “justify” it.

            However, having “blind” faith that a couple of 35 & 36 year old vets can turn back time, to 2003, is not for me.

            Enjoy!

          • Reggie35RIP

            2003 might be a stretch. But they might be able to turn it back to 2008. ;p

          • KGino

            I knew you would call it blind faith, cuz you’re a pessimist.

            An optimist looks at the team and says we have the same starting 5 that’s went 20-6 last year, along with an improved bench. I would say that’s justifiable faith.

            But seriously, don’t even watch the celtics if all you’re gonna do is bitch and complain about them cuz I know I’m sick of it and this Drew guy is too.

          • RedsLoveChild

            I do have “faith”….I have complete faith that this Celtic team is 100% washed-up, especially Pierce.

            We are doomed…you just haven`t figured it out yet. You`re too busy blaming the refs for our ineptitude.

          • KGino

            I feel sorry for you. The best eras of celtics basketball in 20 years and all you can do is bitch. What an ungrateful piece of shit fan you are.

            I have not blamed the refs once this season so idk wtf you’re talking about you pessimistic jerkoff basement dwelling closet Lakers fan douche.

          • KGino

            No matter what you say you can’t take away my faith in this team. It must suck following a team so closely that you have no belief in whatsoever.

            You sound like a fucking hardcore bobcats fan or something. Recognize greatness, we are the all time winningest franchise in any major sport, with 3 hall of famers on our team. I’m grateful for Pierce & KG, without them we could still be a 30 win per season team. So fuck you for throwing the 35 and 36 year olds to the curb just cuz they’re 4 years older. You have no class.

        • Drew

          This IS the same Redslovechild who acted like The Lakers would plow their way to the finals and bang out championship after championship for years to come, right? How’s that prediction going?

          Btw, if you remember right, me and several other fans who aren’t persuaded by everything ESPN wants us to think predicted EXACTLY what has happened thus far with your Laker super team. Kobe hates Dwight. The coach(es) suck. No team chemistry. Ron Artest sucks. Too many egos to handle. The offense is a mess. Steve Nash can’t play defense.

          You do remember us predicting these exact things, right? Ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Drew, of course I remember.

            You are referring to the LA Lakers…a team that has quietly won 6 of their last 7 games.

            Howard`s surgically repaired back keeps gaining strength, Nash & Gasol are both back in action.

            Yeah…no need to be concerned at all!

          • Drew

            Uh oh, look out! 6 of 7. They are on a tear!!!

          • KGino

            Redslovechild = closet lakers fan

    • http://red'sarmy.com bean town bully™

      Redslovechild lol really is that your tag. His love child with who Dr. Buss(Lakers owner)Lol your a undercover Lakers fan. You’re a lame(jay-z voice) please shut up!!!

      • RedsLoveChild

        BTB,

        One can love the Celtics AND speak the truth.

        That`s all I`m doing.

  • Dj

    Wait a couple weeks and offer up Jeff green (4yrs $8,385,000per) kris joseph (2yrs $473,604per) and jason collins (1yr $854,389) for a total of $9,713,208 for Demarcus Cousins (2yrs $3,880,800) Thomas Robinson (4yr $3,374,640) and jimmer Fredette (3yr $2,339,040). Neither Robinson or jimmer are gettin any playing time so its just for salary. I would not actually mind this trade. we keep avery bradley. we keep jared sullinger who could take over IF Cousins bolts for free agency. we get a 3pt shooter in jimmer. maybe stash robinson in Dleague to play more? Maybe a draft pick or two (lottery protected down the road for kings?)

    • Jester00

      like that a lot

    • Drew

      This trade makes the most sense to me. Keep AB, but I’m still sceptical about bringing Cousins here. He’s cancer.

      • Dj

        he is a cancer but in this scenario I can deal. what are we truely giving up? an overpaid bench player who is not succeeding, a 2nd round pick and a 3rd string center. we are taking back a cancer who has never ever ever had true veteran leadership to keep him in line, a backup Pg who can shoot 3’s and a Pf who was a top 10 pick and is not getting a chance to play because his team is all forwards. ill take the chance and roll the dice in this case I mean seriously, this team is sputtering as is so to dump bench players wont make a difference in the long run.

        • Drew

          I agree. As long as Avery Bradley stays. But this is more wishful thinking than anything. Ainge won’t let Green go.

          • Dj

            Ainge needs to let his man crush on ainge go. Ainge didnt care when Boston man crush with perk was there, he flipped perk in a heartbeat. he needs to man up, admit HIS mistake and do it for the better of the team. (sad to say when this all involves getting cousins who could very well be more harmful)

          • Celticsfanatic

            Wait wait wait… it’s wishful thinking because we don’t want to give Jeff Green up?? Not because Sacramento in that deal is trading their best player and a rookie lottery pick?????? Seriously, I don’t even think I could pull that deal off in NBA 2K13. Of course they’re not going to get equal value, which is why we proposed a guy like Cousins (potentially the next Bynum) for Lee (under-performing and useless with Bradley coming back)/Melo (incredibly raw and unpredictable)/a first rounder and maybe if they sweeten the deal with a guy like Jason Thompson, we’ll throw in Sullinger or Bass. I don’t know how the money works but that is essentially the talent swap we’re looking for, and even that may be a little unrealistic. A guy like Jason Collins is only valuable to a team playing in a division like the Atlantic Central division that’s one piece away from contention (having to defend Noah, Hibbert, and Monroe). Kris Joseph is nice but it’s insane to say that any other fan base besides us is excited about him. And Jeff Green is overplayed and sporadic. Why would they trade two of the three cornerstones of their future for cap bloating no-names?

          • Drew

            Yeah, it goes both ways on the wishful thinking. But the near fact is, Ainge won’t let Green go because he is stubborn and desperate for his “experiment” to work.

          • Dj

            Which way are you going with that celticsfanatic? I only included jason thompson due to the fact he made the salaries work and was a 1 year contract that they could let go after the season. I highly doubt they would include their starting PF for just fab melo included. Kris joseph is a shooter and can grow for them. they whole basis of this trade was for the kings to get rid of their cance player while getting something back in return (in their eyes green). You say they wont let thomas robinson go because he was a lottery pick? he hardly plays and has an average PER rating. if they include thompson then robinson is safe as he wouldmost likely get more minutes. if thompson is NOT included then they have thompson at PF for 5 more years and robinson as a backup at $3.4 million and climbing per year. one would think something would give. to get rid of a cancer you must give up something…. not receive the better of the two ends.

    • Larry Legend

      Yeah great scenariO Dj…are you high?! If you think Sac would make that trade than you must be. Jeff Green, Jason Collins, and Kris Joseph?! Hahaha!! Dumbest post I’ve read in awhile. And there’s plenty to pick from on this site. Get a clue. I can’t even believe you seriously proposed that deal…

      • Dj

        Am I high? no im realistic. Noone in the NBA will give them egual trade value. Noone in the nba will give them 70 cents on the dollar. this may very well be as good as they can get and with both cousins and his agent wanting out and the coach and GM wanting him out, this may be the only way to do it. it all comes down to this: will the owners accept 50cents on the dollar or keep paying him to keep getting suspended and dirupting the team mentality? Very realistic trade while keeping the youngins from going and allowing them to grow with the celtics for the future. You say this is unlikely? what happened like 4 years ago? LA Lakers and memphis? remember that dandy of a trade where the lakers landed Pau Gasol for who exactly? yea thats right go look it up. Jarvis crittonton and other scabs and picks for an all star. Dont sit there and critique my proposal which is a viable option because you say no team would do it when clearly teams have in fact in the past done such things as take 50cents on the dollar (or in the Gasol case, far far less as in pennies on the dollar)

      • CoachBo

        Yeah. The credibility of posters on this site is taking a beating on the Cousins subject.

        Typical fan trade – our trash for your stars.

        Ridiculous trade idea. I wonder if you’re high, too.

    • RedsLoveChild

      For your next trick….see if you can get us Kevin Durant for Jarvis Varnado!

      • Dj

        haha another troll. your an idiot and obviously someone with very little basketball knowledge. this TRADE SCENARIO is all because he (COUSINS) is unhappy as well as his agent as well as the GM and the coach. COUSINS has screwed the kings in trading him because everyone sees a problem child and will not give up major things for him so if the kings want to trade the cancer to save the clubhouse then this is how they do it. I find it funny that you trolls take offense to this IDEA. considering you morons were probably the same ones so happy when the Red Sox traded there “CANCER PLAYERS” to the dodgers. I bet you were all front line people screaming and cheering when it went through. Did the Red Sox receive any players with Viable MLB futures? no, not really as most MLB pundits said they players they receiver were either bench players or 4th/5th starts on good teams. its the same exact thing yet in one instance you cheer (red sox) and in one you bash (the kings getting rid of cousins). lets see some of your ideas. your so quick to bash yet offer up no replies on what you would do? is it simply because you are not smart enough to complete a simple trade scenario or is it because its more find to play the internet tough guy and bash others while sitting back watching your porn, wishing you had something better to do, friends to hang out with or somewhere to go…. or maybe a job that paid more than minimum wage? enjoy your lousy day, as im sure due to your lousy personality, people take no pity on yourself leaving you wondering why you all alone.

        • Larry Legend

          Troll? Listen guy your trade proposal is as shitty as your ridiculous argument as to why it would work. When you come back down to earth maybe we can have a real discussion as to what pieces it would take to get Cousins. Until then stop embarrassing yourself. 22 year old 18 and 10 guys that are 6’11 are few. Joseph and Collins are laughable trade parts when combined with an overrated, overpaid Jeff Green. Even though you proposed this trade even your ignorant dumbass wouldn’t give away cousins for that pile of shit.

          • Larry Legend

            And I don’t give a crap about the Red Sox. This is a Boston Celtics message board. Any trade for cousins would have to include either Lee/or Bradley and Sully/or Bass plus a draft pick. Yeah that was really difficult to figure out…well it was for you I guess…no real shock there tho

          • Dj

            You must not understand he is viewed as a cancer by not only his team but everyone in the nba meaning you will not get anything near equal in trade value for him. I guess you think everyone gets a bye for past transgressions.

        • RedsLoveChild

          Just the thought of Cousins coming here should make any Celtic fan want to throw up.

          Nevertheless, you actually believe Sacramento would be eager to acquire Boston`s garbage!

          Ancient, decrepit, worthless Jason Collins…along with an $8M per year, underachieving, heart patient!

          I`m sure The Kings` GM will love explaining that deal to the fans in SAC-Town.

          Please…stop sniffing glue!

          • Dj

            Oh im not in favor of him being in boston but if we can rid ourself of the green contract and 2 more bench players to get someone who produces? Im in favor of rolling the dice.

  • classless

    They need help in the worst way and Cousins could do that. Bradley is injury prone. That’s a fact. He can be more easily replaced than Cousins can.

  • PICTURE PLANET

    If we are getting desperate enough for Cousins lets give Melo some burn.

    • sarahluree

      That’s a better plan than Cousins!

    • Dj

      Id rather allow melo to get his mins in the Dleague this entire season and then bring him in next year. The DLeague is one this but this is the NBA and Melo has only starting turning it on the last 2 weeks or so. 1 full season in DLeague is what he needs. Remember, he just started playing basketball at age 17 in Brazil, so its only been 5 years.

  • Andrew

    Yep it prolongs Garnett’s career by giving him a shot blocker and a body that can bang with the best if Courtney starts getting back to form offensively within the next month expect AB to be traded for him

  • Rjd123

    If we can keep AB and Doc is sure that they can keep him under control, I say go for it. KG, AB, Rondo, Pierce, and Cousins is a ridiculous starting lineup. Then you still have Barbosa, Green, Bass, Wilcox, and Terry coming off the bench…not bad at all. Celtics need something to energize them. Im a little surprised though they’re pressing so hard for Cousins, even though they wouldn’t give peanuts to get K-Mart off the bench.

  • KGino

    How about Lee, Bass, Jeff Green, Melo, & Picks for Al Jefferson & Marvin Williams? I think it works $ wise, seems fair, we get an athletic wing to back up Pierce (which we need if we trade JG), and Big AL is twice the man Cousins will ever be. Thoughts?

    • Clone of Jester

      Love it

    • jon

      Big Al is better than Cousins..if can get Big Al for that package then im all for it.

    • Matt W

      I’d do this, but you’re not getting AJ without giving up AB.

    • Dj

      Im in favor of bring bak Big al but your essentially trading our entire 2nd unit for him. if we could do lee and green and or bass and green and filles then im good with it but emptying our bunch with the exception of terry? we will still be in trouble.

  • ZabJudah

    BOGIE ! BOOGIE ! BOOGIE ! … i can wait

  • Quest

    AB is still untested with two major shoulder operations. This could have a major impact on his defensive capabilities. Basing a turn around on one player is questionable IMO. I am for trading for Cousins.

  • http://www.djkahn.com DJ Kahn

    See, I think Danny can convince them to take Lee, Bass, and picks. The Kings aren’t dealing from a position of strength. They have suspended this under-performing headcase themselves. There is no reason WHATSOEVER to sacrifice AB, Sully, Melo or even Green to get this guy. You deal Bradley or Sully to Sac for this clown and watch this team mentally cave-in. A lot of these guys are close; remember what happened when Perk got traded? You are not only destroying team chemistry with this trade and dissolving any idea of unity and brotherhood, but you are not even saying “let’s win this.” Because you just traded for DEMARCUS COUSINS.

    • Dj

      Cant exactly call him underperforming I mean he is averaging nearly 20/10. not to many of those in the NBA

      • KGino

        16.6 and 9.5 are his averages for the year

        • Dj

          like I said, NEARLY 20/10. I agree with you Kahn that he does take more shots and worse shots than PP and KG but i am assuming that being on a team with a real PG will put him in a better shooting situation and putting him on a team with PP and KG will limit his shots but still allow him to shoot and do his thing. Am I prepared for him to try that yes. am I prepared for him to try and fail? yes. am I prepared for KG to punch him square in his punk face and have PP and RR piss on him and walk away if he gets out of line? YES.

      • http://www.djkahn.com DJ Kahn

        17/10 is a bit misleading.DMC has a higher usage rate than Pierce or KG, shoots worse than both. Are you prepared to give up real assets, smart coachable guys with big upside, for someone who my not even be interested in being any better than he is right now?

  • brian

    I like some of the deals but if you send out green you need a back up for paul. Id much rather have big Al for a year instead of cousins. Neither one is amazing on defense, but how much fun would it be to have Big Al back.

  • Matt W

    I’m with Chuck. I want Cousins, and I’d give up AB to get him, though I’d rather not. This team isn’t good enough to win now with, and if we’re not going to try to win now, then the KG and Piece contracts were for nothing.

  • KGino

    Idea for New Reds Army Poll… Would you be willing to trade Avery Bradley to get Demarcus Cousins? I’m intrigued to see how intelligent our fan base actually is..

    • Double P

      Id love to hear how wanting a 7footer that is sure to give you 20/10 a year going forward over an undersized, injury prone guard is unintelligent? Name me ONE big man whose young in the game right now that isn’t slightly malcontent, bynum, howard, Kevin love? All have been headcases… It’s far from a red flag.

      Check his stats last season, his second season in the league on a shitty team facing dbl coverage he had 18/11 and almost 2 blocks a game.

      • Brian

        Couins will not give you 20/10 but lets say he does, he gets burned on the defensive end so for the 20 points he gives up he gives up more in the paint and with lazy reach in fouls from penetrating point guards. Something that if you trade Bradley and continue to start Terry will be the norm. With a 6-7 wing span Bradley is not underzied. He might be 6-2 but unless he is guarding Joe Johnson he held his down last year and then some. It’s pretty simple. Last year we had a worse bench and a 15-17 record with ray playing the 2. With Bradley Playing the 2 we become the most efficent team in basketball. It allows rondo to rest on D so he has more to give on offense. It allows the Bigs to get into positon instead of helping late on week side rotations. Just look at the numbers from last year. http://www.celticstown.com/2012/08/05/ray-v-avery-a-study-in-5-man-units/ You forget that when you play for the C’s your numbers go down not up. So 16.5 and 10 might be the norm if he comes here. It would be a huge upgrade over Collins on the offensive side but I doubt couins knows how to set a pick much less cares about making others look better. He is a punk plane and simple, and it’s not like he plays great D like howard or is a great shooter like Love, or Is a beast when healthy ( Bynum) So is his attitude a red Flag Yes. Playing on a shitty team you would expect his numbers go go up not down.

        • Double P

          You make so many ridiculous assumptions its almost not worth replying.. but me assuming a talented big guy could up his scoring avg by TWO points with an elite pg is unrealistic? This guy would get so many easy buckets with rondo driving the lane and the passing skills of Kg in the paint as well..

          • Brian

            Numbers don’t lie. Pretty much backs up everything I said. http://greenstreet.weei.com/sports/boston/basketball/celtics/2012/12/19/irish-coffee-what-avery-bradley-does-for-the-celtics/

            Now if you think I’m wrong I’d love to hear why you think the way you do and so many others disagree?

            Listen to what KG says, does that sound like Cousins at all? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ksLUyISUV8U

            “Bradley’s return will force Terry to the bench, where he excelled in Dallas, and push the struggling Lee further down the depth chart. In other words, Rivers can finally begin to define roles for the rest of his roster. If the Rondo-Bradley-Pierce-Bass-Garnett lineup picks up anywhere near where it left off last season, the Celtics coach simply has to squeeze more out of Terry, Lee, Jeff Green, Jared Sullinger and Chris Wilcox than he could out of Keyon Dooling, Marquis Daniels, Mickael Pietrus, Greg Stiemsma and Ryan Hollins last season”

      • Dj

        Kevin love has been far from a head case, far from malcontent. he is frustrated that his teams gm continually puts out inferior products and conitnually remains stagnent. He just wants to win. he wants s team to put together a winner. he has yet to be suspended. he has nver had a bad thing said about him by his team. I would gladly take kevin love and his playing ability over cousins or anyone else you listed, same position or not.

    • CoachBo

      The answer to the intelligence question is already pretty clear. This site has turned into Real BM.

      • KGino

        There are just so many better big men to trade for without the headaches and without trading AB. Al Jefferson, josh smith, varajao.. None of these guys are “malcontent”.

        Dmcs stats aren’t even that good. If bass played for the kings he could probably average close to 18/8.

  • Celticsfanatic

    Lee/Bass/Melo/1st rounder for Cousins and Jason Thompson. We’d be a force, and that’s a pretty fair trade to me. If you have to, take back Bass and throw in Sullinger, and then add to our importation any one of Chuck Hayes, James Johnson, Travis Outlaw or Tyler Honeycutt.

  • Astarot

    The potential deal should’t also include Sullinger but I know it’d make it almost impossible.

  • CelticsKid34

    just pull the trigger on SOMETHING…

  • http://msnhotmail BeLinda

    I say let Rondo make the call to Cousins. cousins and Rondo are both Kentucky Wild Cats, Wild Cats have mad respect for each other, if anybody can get though to him and understand him its going to have to Rondo.

  • Forever_green

    Cousins to boston – Yes Yes Yes

  • screaming jay

    Jeezum…58 comments on Cousins.

    Isn’t it time for a poll question?

  • Brian
  • http://www.greenheadzblog.blogspot.com ChiefGreenHeadz

    That IS pretty much a sign of the apocalypse that so many (including me!) agree with Drew’s opening post! Still, end-of-the-world scenario or not, I would sooner see Joseph Forte and Vin Baker back with the C’s than welcome the potential dirty-bomb that is DeMarcus Cousins into a Garden locker room. He’s not getting us closer to a championship this year even if he acted like a model citizen and it’s doubtful that he’ll be the kind of player that can pull it together long enough to help any team anywhere win one in the near future. And, for those of you who doubt the impact of Bradley and are breaking him down to “a few good months,” check your stats with and without him. It’s no coincidence. And you can believe that Ray would still be with us today if Bradley weren’t deemed important enough to relieve him of his starting job.

  • Drew

    Good point. Which leads me to believe that if Ainge saw enough in Bradley to give him Ray Allen’s job, why would he part with him for ANY big? You think Danny Ainge wants to gamble on making Jason Terry and Courtney Lee work at the 2 spot after the horrible start they have had to the season? That actually gives me nightmares thinking about Lee and Terry laying stink bombs at the 2 for the rest of the season. NO THANK YOU.

    • Drew

      This comment was in reply to chiefgreenheadz.

  • Me

    Anderson Varejao Is The Guy For The Celtics Enough Said

  • Jay P

    DMC’s value is low right now. If Ainge can get him soon, you could see Jared Sullinger/Kris Joseph and a draft pick or 2 for Cousins. But if Sacramento waits to bring his value up, you could see Courtney Lee or Leandro Barbosa added or even a possible 3-team trade. Only thing I know is AB is staying in Boston.
    I hope Ainge pulls this off. I think Cousins wants to be somewhere where he can win for a purpose…another Banner and a ring on his finger #BostonCeltics #IAmACeltic

    • PIECE OF CRAP

      you proposed trade.. i hang up the phone…there’s a lot better offer in other teams that your offer

  • KGino

    Bottom line is Ainge is smart enough not to trade AB for possible trash, whether you guys believe it or not. How do I know?

    We’re in a win now mode, not a take on another big man project mode. And AB makes our chances of winning this year much better than cousins would.

    How many rebounds does AB average? the answer: it doesn’t matter. He is not supposed to rebound. But when he prevents guards from penetrating, it will prevent our bigs from rotating out of position, which will prevent so many GD offensive rebounds. If you don’t understand how AB will make our rebounding better, well, you just don’t understand the game of basketball as well as others.

    • PIECE OF CRAP

      i can trade green + bass for varejao im ok with that