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Your Morning Dump… Where Rondo initiated everything

Chuck - Red's Army November 29, 2012 Celtics News, Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo, The Morning Dump 29 Comments

Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

After a video review, the referees ejected both Humphries and Rondo for fighting — crew chief James Capers later explained to a pool reporter that, by going into the stands, the two were involved in a fight that required ejection. Humphries earned two technical fouls, including one for taking Garnett to the floor with a second personal foul after the initial contact.

But it’s Rondo that is likely to be in the crosshairs of the league. As Capers noted, “Rondo initiated everything that proceeded after the foul.”

As for whether Garnett or Wallace threw a punch, Capers added, “As we reviewed it, no. They aggressively went to one another, and they basically pushed and extended on one another, but there was not a punch thrown.”

ESPN Boston – C’s bracing for possible Rondo suspension

Let me get right to the point, I have do not have a problem with Rajon Rondo pushing Kris Humphries in retaliation for that hard foul on Kevin Garnett. With all due respect to WEEI’s Mike Petraglia, I never saw a punch. I’m not sure anyone can watch the video and definitively state punches were (or were not) thrown.

The Herald’s Steve Bulpett is highly critical of Rondo’s loss of control. So is Donny Marshall. I get it. He’s our leader and is more valuable on the court. Leave the enforcer stuff to someone else.

But… I have tremendous respect for a 6-1, 180 lbs point guard with the BALLS to take on someone 8 inches and 50 lbs heavier. Rondo was right in the mix from the get-go. It’s not like he ran 30 feet like Gerald Wallace. He pushed Humphries. Had the skirmish happened at mid-court and not under the basket where players are more prone to fall over camera guys, this might be a non-story.

Will he get suspended? Probably. Whether you like it or not, he’s a repeat offender with a growing reputation. I’m guessing 2-3 games. Howard Beck of the New York Times predicts a “lengthy” suspension.

Rondo did not speak to reporters after the game. Humphries offered a quip about a tetanus shot on his Twitter page. He should know a thing or two about communicable diseases.

The bigger story to come out of last night’s game was Doc Rivers’ comments about his team:

“If I’m Brooklyn and the league, you’ve got to think we’re pretty soft the way we’re playing,” Rivers said. “We’re a soft team right now; we have no toughness.

“That stuff’s not toughness,” Rivers said. “All that stuff, that’s not toughness.”

The Celtics are struggling. They’re a .500 team without cohesion and toughness. It’s possible Doc is calling out the team with the hopes it will rally the troops. Let’s hope it works.

One other note, I was unable to find any updates on Jeff Green’s knee injury.

The rest of the links:

ESPN Boston – Rondo shows some fight | Terry on Humphries: He’s soft | Rapid Reaction: Nets 95 – Celtics 83 | Herald – Celtics sent to the showers | Celtics don’t pull punches | Globe – Celtics play the waiting game | Celtics can’t KO Nets | Nets didn’t back down | CSNNE – Garnett: We have to protect each other, we consider ourselves family | Garnett: This ain’t the girl scouts | Celtics home court intimidation factor likely gone | WEEI – Celtics lose, Rondo ejected, Green hurt | NYT – Nets show toughness, keep their cool

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  • paul

    I love it that so many Boston talking heads so totally have Rondo’s back. Listen, I’m not asking them to be like Johnny Most, but what they are doing is mostly leaning over backwards to bash Rondo. Rondo went too far. Who is going to disagree with that? But he was right to confront Humphries and even to push him. As for what the refs said, ya think maybe they are trying to cover up for the fact that they should have called a flagrant and didn’t? Humphries clearly bashed KG across the face and chest long after the ball was gone, with the blatant intent to knock him to the floor in a way that might injure him. Where were the refs? For Capers to say that Rondo instigated it all is a lie and he knows it. Sure that would be true if Humphries hadn’t struck back. BUT HE DID. And even if it were true, you’d be eliding Humphries biggest part in the incident, the blatant cheap shot that started it.

    So good job once again, Boston talking heads.

    • LAF

      well, what does mean for rondo’s mvp chase????!!!

    • Red’s Army – Chuck

      Good stuff, Paul. I concur.

  • wil333

    we should start moving some players.

    • DD

      Really? After 15 games you think you know how this team will be playing in Feb? Even Mike Gorman who knows more basketball than we do said it will take 30 games to find a rhythm. Way to overreact jackass.

      • CoachAJ

        Exactly, there is more than enough time to straighten this ship, plus when bradley comes back other things will fall into place and maybe one of the struggling guards won’t play as much. That will help things. BUT our frontcourt needs to man up on the boards, getting killed everynight is bad. Its not like they don’t know how to rebound.

  • ay

    Good for Rondo, its his team and he’s intense about it. Think back to Bird or anyone in the eighties, same balls, different rules.

  • Tyler

    Rondo definitely can be a head case and he probably shouldn’t have reacted the way he did but like you said, if it were at midcourt, it wouldn’t have been as big of a deal. After the initial shove, Humphries shoved him back then continued to hold on to him. My vision is definitely tinted green but from what I saw it looked like Rondo was basically trying to get Humphries to let go of him, until they both ended up in the stands from Humphries pulling him there. As for a “punch,” there is nothing there. Petraglia is really trying to see something that isn’t there.

  • PicturePlanet

    Much respect for Rondo’s balls and commitment to his teammates, but what he did didn’t help us win and that sucks.

  • RedsLoveChild

    Inside Rondo…this had been brewing for several minutes.

    There was a play early in the game where RR went down under the same basket…Humphries sort of stumbled over him and shoved him further onto the floor…preventing RR from quickly getting up.

    When KG got struck, RR remembered this, and lashed out.

    • Chulinho

      I noticed that too. Between some of the calls, the foul on KG, and, most importantly, the Celtics point deficit I would have been surprised if no one on the Celtics did something outrageous, or at the very least, antagonizing.

      However, I wasn’t expecting that.

  • Stephanie

    That game was extremely physical from the beginning. I guess the Nets trying to take on the old Piston’s identity.

  • Cal

    KG flopped ,RR shoved a guy -no foul should have been called but it is now David Stern wussieball

  • michael

    It was the most entertaining (albeit awful) game I’ve seen since last year’s playoffs. And I had the pleasure of enjoying it from Section 304 with two girls making out in my lap the entire first half. I’m not kidding and I wasn’t paying them. It just happened. Anyone in the vicinity of Row 3 can tell you it’s the truth! They got lambasted by some kid’s Mom at halftime and toned things down.

    As for the game and the ejection and Rondo – I freaking love Rondo and seeing him go at Humphries like that was totally worth whatever penalty ensues. He did have two egregious “I have a wide open layup and I’m going to throw a bad pass instead” turnovers before his ejection. I too am glad the streak is over.

    Ann-dray Blatche is somewhat talented, but he sucks and I wouldn’t want him anywhere near our roster.

  • Gil305

    Yeah Rondo started it by pushing him but if you look at it closely it looks like he was trying to push him out the way then Humphries grabbed him. Based on that and considering no punches were thrown it shouldnt be more than a 1 game suspension

  • Astarot

    Rondo lost control no doubt (even though he pushed him just a little bit and I didn’t see any punch) and that shouldn’t happened cuz he hurt the team with his ejection and possible suspension. But he was pissed about the foul (KG was in the air and he had KG’s back) and most likely about the other fouls that should’ve been called earlier and I totally understand that. You gotta be mentally strong to play in NBA but everybody has the line that cannot be crossed by the refs or the opponent. It’s a shame that his fantastic streak over this way and it’s bad that he’ll get a suspension cuz the team is struggling but I’m still with Rondo on that one just for what he brings to the court and how important he is.

  • Astarot

    One more think, one is true: ‘that’s how rivalry begins’. What worries me most is what Rivers said: “We’re a soft team right now; we have no toughness” really hard to argue with that statement and it’s disquieting.

  • Danno

    When they came out of the stands, Rondos jersey had been ripped off. This was ALL Humphries. He pulled rondo into the crowd, knowing it would look like Rondo did it, and cause the ejection.

  • aomare

    if you all call that a ‘hard foul’ (which it is NOT) then you all are way too young to be commenting on the NBA. Go back and check out highlights of the 90′s era. Heard of the Detroit Bad Boys? Good luck Boston … with your lottery pick next year.

    • Drew

      What are you talking about? The Bad Boy Pistons went to 3 straight Finals from 1988-1990. They COMPLETELY fell apart in 1991 and faded into oblivion. And you’re referencing them as a team from the 90′s? Not to mention you sound like one of the most idiotic basketball fans I’ve ever heard, but you’re accusing people of being too young to remember certain things. Haha, what a fraud. Get out of here, troll.

  • 17rings

    Should have tried to keep perk.

    Anyone who doesn’t like rondos attitude should be reminded of Larry Bird, how many bad scuffles did he get into cuz of shit exactly like this? And we all love that about bird.

    No way this team finishes any lower than a 5 seed, this guy commenting above me is a retard if he thinks we’ll have a lotto pick

    • Chulinho

      I’m actually surprised at how many Celtics fans have supported Rondo. Opinions are typically divided when he does something like this.

  • Mr Curet

    Can’t wait for Bradley to come back already & show his teammates what playing with heart is! Maybe then the rest of the team will follow.

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  • Danie

    Wish somebody would mention the previous play where it looked like Miss Humphries stepped on Rondo when he was laying on the floor, out of bounds…this was more than reacting to a foul on KG.

    We all know that it takes a “non-call’ pile up for Rondo to react on the Refs so last night was no different.

    He pushed Miss Humphries then tried to throw his hands up….but was pulled into the stands. There was no need for him to ejected, if the Refs would have played it back like they did for Thabeet, he would’ve just been T’d up for the push. And, the others, ejected.

  • Chulinho

    Rondo initiated it… at that moment. It was not very smart on his part considering he’s now facing a suspension. He’s that valuable to the C’s now.

    I think he gets at least 5 games.

    • 17rings

      5 games for a shove? Come on now. If it’s 5 games the NBA is even more retarded than I previously thought.

      I think 2 games is more than fair. The only reason it should be that many is because it spilled over into the crowd. If this had happened on the floor instead, I would say ZERO games suspension.. so 5 seems a bit much.

      • Chulinho

        I agree with you. I just felt that the league would overreact. It’s a good thing they didn’t.

  • Classless

    The Rondo dustup is just a distraction from what is actually wrong with this team. They can’t win hard fought, tough games like this because they:

    a) Can’t rebound
    b) are a jump shooting, finesse team

    It’s early, so this team can certainly turn it around, but I grow tired of waiting for Jeff Green to wake up. Either Sullinger needs to make a quick leap or Ainge needs to move Bass and picks for Josh Smith.