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Your Morning Dump… where Dwight Howard is going to the Lakers

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) August 10, 2012 The Morning Dump, Trades 51 Comments

Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

A four-team trade that would send Dwight Howard to the Los Angeles Lakers is complete, multiple sources told ESPN on Thursday night.

A source with direct knowledge of the talks told ESPN.com’s Marc Stein the Lakers will receive Howard, the Denver Nuggets will acquire Andre Iguodala, the 76ers will receive Andrew Bynumand Jason Richardson, and the Magic will getArron Afflalo, Al Harrington, Nikola Vucevic and one protected future first-round pick from each of the three teams.

In addition, the Magic will be getting other pieces, including 76ers No. 1 draft pick Moe Harkless, a source told Stein.

Sources close to the process told Stein and ESPNLosAngeles.com’s Ramona Shelburne that a trade call with the league office has been scheduled for Friday to secure the necessary NBA approval to make the deal official.

ESPN: Sources: Howard to Lakers

I spent part of last night breaking this trade down for Crossover Chronicles.   Here’s the most relevant part as the Celtics are concerned, at least in the short-term:

If Doug Collins has any luck in screwing Andrew Bynum’s head on straight, then the Atlantic Division is suddenly a bloodbath with the Sixers and Bynum (and Jason Richardson), the re-loaded Boston Celtics, the much improved (at least offensively) Brooklyn Nets and the New York Knicks.  Sorry Toronto, you don’t get to play.

Andrew Bynum is a temperamental, immature, man-child.  When he’s un-glued, he has the potential to destroy everything you’re trying to do.  When he’s focused and performing, however, he’s the league’s second best center.  And this is a contract year for him.  He’s looking at max money next summer from someone, so the Sixers have a chance to pay him a ton of money, or sign-and-trade him for other assets.

Orlando is blowing it all up, so they clearly don’t care to get Bynum or anyone else.  They’re taking back players because they have to.  They’re getting 3 first rounders in this thing and they see no need to pay any particular player “star” money in the near future.  You might not like the deal for Orlando, but their goal wasn’t to get equal value for Howard… they just wanted him gone, and they wanted some chips for the future.

And then there’s LA….

The Lakers have once again managed to pull off a heist.  To add Dwight Howard to their roster without giving up both Bynum and Pau Gasol is just another lopsided deal that benefits the Lakers.  They’ll now have Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol and Dwight Howard in their starting line up.

The names there are kind of ridiculous.  As Celtics fans, we can only hope that Nash, Gasol and Kobe all start to show some of the wear and tear that guys their age are supposed to show.

Actually, here’s a better “best case” scenario from the Boston perspective:

The Lakers are, as everyone expects, pretty good.  But they don’t match up well against the Oklahoma City Thunder.  Kendrick Perkins keeps Howard in check (aside: Perk should send Dwight a fruit basket… having Dwight in LA suddenly means Perk is quite valuable in OKC), Russell Westbrook torches Nash, the Lakers have no answer for Kevin Durant, and Kobe Bryant starts jacking up 30 shots a game again as the Lakers lose the series.  Then, Dwight is wowed in free agency by the Dallas Mavericks, and chooses to leave the Lakers… leaving the Lakers with nothing to show for their trade.

It’s a dream scenario for us C’s fans, whose hatred for other teams should go Lakers first, everyone else second.  IF the Lakers get to the Finals and IF Miami goes back instead of the Celtics, all of you LeBron haters who get crazy when we even post a picture of his sneakers better nut up and tolerate him for a series… because I’ll take LeBron’s second ring over Kobe’s sixth and the Lakers’ 17th.  I’d root for a team of reincarnated dictators coached by Satan against the Lakers. I don’t care what it takes, the Lakers can’t catch the Celtics in championships.

So, in a nutshell:  the Lakers pulled another fast one, we’re all now HUGE OKC fans, and we’re hoping Dwight shafts the Lakers next summer.  That’d make this all worth it.

The rest of the links:

WEEI:  Analysis: Lakers get Howard in 4-team deal  |  Lee:  Joining Boston a no-brainer for me  |  ESPN Boston:  Lee:  I really wanted to come to Boston

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  • Lee in Oregon

    Personally, I’d rather see Kobe & Co. get 17 than watch Lebron (and Ray) get #2. I can at least somewhat respect the Lakers. Lebron makes it hard for me to root for my own country in the Olympics.

    Howard is at least not in Brooklyn this year, Philly will have a much different roster with alot of guys playing for contracts next summer, GO C’s!

    • Rob

      I agree with this comment 100%

    • Chris

      Agreed. Bad enough having to go through Heat to face Lakers/OKC. Best to not chance Williams/Howard in Brooklyn as well.

      Also, am I the only one that thinks Philly were much better off with elite team-leader Iggy than baby-man Bynum and aging J-Rich?

    • Kensmark

      Exactly. And Howard got really, really obnoxious, but not LeBron level of obnoxious, no matter what the sports analysts say.

      I don’t like the Lakers, but I respect them. This Miami team, no.

      That said, if the refs ever start calling fouls against Howard, his game will take a huge hit. Watch replays when he defends near the basket, and again and again you’ll see him drag the offensive player down by the head, neck, or jersey. At least once or twice a game. He does it more and more as the years go by and the whistles don’t blow.

    • dwade

      You are crazy! Lebron is playing for the country

  • Jester00

    Ha your all satan team reminds me of homer and the forbidden donut, jury of the dammed

  • Chuck

    “Andrew Bynum is a temperamental, immature, man-child.”

    Same could be said for Dwight Howard.

    • http://redsarmy.com John

      Much worse can be said about Dwight

  • BillRussellTheGreatestOfThemAll

    I agree that Lebron repeating as champ is the lesser evil vs Kobe getting ring #6 and the Lakers tying the Celtics at 17 chips apiece. How did orlando NOT insist on Pau as part of the deal? Why even bother having a basketball team there?? Hey Seattle, buy this loser franchise and transform them into the new Sonics!!

    • CoachAJ

      I agree….my dislike for the Lakers is MUCH higher than any supposed dislike for LBJ. I live in LA, and can’t stand front-running Laker fans. Out here, everyone is already talking championship rings getting fitted, despite their not having a bench. I will wholeheartedly cheer for the Heat if we don’ make it.
      I’m wondering too why they didnt take on Pau at 19mil for one year. The Spainard would bring in revenue, then they could ship him off or let him go.

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  • Cameron

    I 100% wholeheartedly agree that I would rather Lebron get a title than the Lakers catch us in banner numbers.

    I likewise am expecting some wear and tear on at least one of the older players, and of course there’s Dwight’s back issue.

    Thunder have the best chance to unseat them in the west, if we met in the finals though, I don’t know what we could do to stop this team unless Rondo plays at a megastar level. Time to bring out Dwight Stopper Jason Collins! lol

    But this news bummed me out :( If Lakers fail, Dwight will leave them and they basically damaged their franchise. If Lakers do excellently, I don’t see why Dwight wouldn’t do a contract extension.

    • Chris

      Dwight could win a championship in LA and bolt to a much more youthful Dallas team, but that would be like LeBron choosing to play with D-Rose in Chicago. Long term it would make sense, but he’ll probably stay put and when Kobe, Gasol and Nash are retired in a few years, Kupchak will convince other teams to give up their stars for peanuts and Luke Waltons.

  • KY Celts fan

    FUCK! FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK! FUCKING BULLSHIT! I HATE THE FUCKING LAKERS!

    Why? Why does everyone help them win? What is it about that team that everyone rolls over to make sure they are always talented. Every other team in the league has to reload, go into the lottery, and be bad every now and again. But every fucking team in the league, save for the Celtics, bends over backwards to give LA whatever they want! Fuck the Lakers! Fuck Dwight! Fuck Nash! Fuck the NBA!

  • Drew

    I completely disagree with the whole idea of The Lakers being our #1 enemy. GET OVER IT. The Lakers are the lesser of 2 evils. I’d rather see Kobe get his 9th ring than LeBron get his second. And to watch Ray Allen celebrate in joy over a second ring. I was watching the 2008 championship game 6 on NBA TV yesterday(which I hope we’ve all seen at least 50 times) and I literally was disgusted at every sight of Ray Allen. RAY ALLEN HAS SINGLE HANDEDLY RUINED THE 2008 CHAMPIONSHIP FOR ME. it’s disgusting and hard to watch at this point. Everytime Ray hits one of those 7 threes it sends a shooting pain down my left arm. I turned it off half way through in sadness and displeasure. And I hope to god I speak for a large part of Celtics nation when I say this. At least what The Lakers have accomplished can be respected by Celtics fans. I will never able to respect what LeBron, Ray, David Stern are (gulp) probably going to accomplish. Man up and grow a pair. Leave your stubborn ways behind. The 2010’s Heat are the new Lakers. REALIZE THAT. you’ll be better off as soon as you do.

    • zippittyay

      AMEN.

  • RedsLoveChild

    This is a very sad day…but, it was inevitable and easy to predict that Howard was going to the Lakers.

    For those with a sense of history, our greatest nightmare is about to come true.

    The Celtics have been #1 in titles since JFK was President…but that is now about to end.

  • Daniele

    I gotta agree with John, I’m a “young” Celtics fan (so I didn’t live the L.A./Boston rivalry except for these last few years) but I had nighmares for months after the 2010 Game 7… I don’t want to see them win ever again. It feels sick and wrong.

    I understand the LeBron hatred, he very well fits as the “enemy”, but Dwight did the same to his old franchise, just much worse.

    Of course we don’t have to choose between the two yet, so I’ll just cheer for OKC to beat the Lakers, or San Antonio to repeat last season’s run…in the East, besides Granger’s claim that the Pacers are the #2 team, I like what the Celtics have done and I can see us challenge Miami again.
    Easy? No.
    Possible? Oh hell yeah! Anything is possible!

  • Jay

    No Bynum, no Gasol, no lottery picks… Aaron Afflalo signed through 2016 for a total of $32 mil, Al Harrington signed through 2015 for $34 mil. There is NO argument that can be made that Orlando did anything good in this deal for themselves. Not only did Brooklyn and Houston have FAR better offers, the rumblings of deals that ATL and OKC could have given were so much better as well.

    Simply inexcusible for a professional team to do this kind of trade. Unless they get extremely lucky and land a superstar, franchise player in the lottery, Orlando will be horrible for years. Moneyball does not work in the NBA it never has and it never will. Why have the Lakers been title contenders (and title winners) since Russell retired? Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Gasol and now Howard.

    Not only is Dwight a dominating player himself, people forget that other players will flock even more to LA even once Kobe is done to play with him. Bynum is a very good big man as well, but other stars wouldn’t be as eager to team up with Bynum. LA knew this, they always do.

    I truly hope John’s “best-case scenario” for the C’s comes true, but I highly doubt it. Just look at the last 40 years for the Lakers… it never happens that way. Never.

  • Cameron

    h

    • Cameron

      Sorry misstype, but how important is the Jason Collins signing now!

  • http://www.RedsArmy.com KWAPT

    F*ck the Lakers. It all looks good, but they still have to go out and perform as a unit. Not crowning them yet. As far as Philly, Bynum is mentally nowhere near ready to be the “the guy”. Should be interesting to see how that group does with no veteran leadership. Could be a disaster…

    • Lee in Oregon

      Doug Collins needs a new group of guys to “rah-rah” every few years. I think they realized that group wasn’t ever gonna get out of the first round, so why not blow it up? I’m a bit pissed at these other teams that want to help the Lakers so readily. And Orlando oughta call themselves the “laker farm club for centers”.

  • Chris

    I like the points about how OKC match up against the Lakers, and as much as I hate Westbrook, Durant is the easiest non-Celtic star to root for – all class. I was kind of hoping for “Your morning dump…where Jason Collins’ value has gone WAY up”. I still fear what Dwight will be capable of with an elite scorer and elite distributor, neither of which he has had – apologies to Jameer Nelson who has done well and Vinsanity, J-Rich and Turk who’ve had patches of good performances.

  • KY Celts fan

    • Lakers4Life

      Man that video is so funny lol

  • Lakers4Life

    I had a feelin’ this would be the mornin dump lol.. I’m surprised u rather see LeBron win than the Lakers.. I’d much rather see Bos beat Mia but OKC is def our biggest threat

  • KD35

    Wait…we weren’t already huge thunder fans?

  • Quest

    So much for the lockout trying to equalize the NBA. Same old same old.

  • Quest

    Hopefully the Dwight Howard and Kobe partnership equals to the Shaq/ Kobe rivalry and the Lakers’ locker room breeds internal conflict.

  • Eric

    To be honest with you, I’d rather see the Lakers win another one than Wade and Ray get another ring. I don’t like the Lakers, only cuz they’re our rivals, but to be honest, I don’t really see them as our rivals anymore and I respect kobe and his work ethic. I can’t stand DWade, he’s one of the dirtiest players I’ve ever seen play, and Ray Allen, well, used to be my favorite player.. To me, he betrayed us this summer and I can’t believe he went to MIA of all teams. Celtics OUT FOR BLOOD. Can’t wait to watch this season. It’s gonna be a fun one.

    • Drew

      To me, this past seasons ECF loss to The Heat hurt way more than 2010’s Finals loss to The Lakers. Left a way worse taste in my mouth for way more valid reasons than anything The Lakers have ever done to us. Through out the history of The Celtics Lakers rivalry we have ALWAYS had respect for our opponent. I’m sorry, but I have zero respect for anything The Heat have done and ever will do. The thought of the decision and the promise makes me tear in anger. LeBrons smirks and little jibbity hibbity shimmies make me want to punch through glass. In all honesty I WANT THE USA MENS TEAM TO LOSE so LeBrons trophy mantle is a little lighter. I like Kobe, I respect him. We all know pau wouldn’t have grabbed 18 rebounds in game 7 if Perk were playing. We lost that chip WAY MORE than they won it. I’d take Kobe as a Celtic way before I take LeBron. Sometimes I’m embarrassed to be a Celtics fan because of asinine shit that comes out of Celtics fans mouths. You old, stubborn miserable bastards just CAN NOT shake the rivalry of old. GET OVER IT. FUCK THE HEAT. Who gives a shit about The Lakers. Let’s get by The Heat and then we can hate The Lakers again.

  • zippittyay

    Dwight Howard is the most overrated player in the NBA. Puffed up stats on teams with poor rebounders and defenders. Offensively challenged and couldn’t recognize an assist if it bit him on the ass.

  • kJandhondo

    I fucking hate this. Igoudala is a damn good player and defender but Denver helping the team that eliminated them from the playoffs get better is bs. Fuck. Other serious matter though, i don’t like KG matchup with Bynum. I’m nervous about it. Philly was darn good last year. Bynum makes them better. What is the atlantic division looking like? Where do you stack? I hope we can get seed 2 or 3

  • Celticsfanatic

    I don’t mean to attack you guys any further, feel like you’ve gotten a lot of unnecessary flak around here lately but I’m just asking… Isn’t the best case scenario that the Celtics win the championship? Though I don’t think you intended it to sound this way it just seems like the whole article kind of tosses the Celts aside outside the Atlantic division and basically crowns either LAL, MIA, or OKC champs. We have a damn good shot, as good as maybe we’ve ever had especially with Rose down. People say we don’t match up well with big teams… don’t underestimate the big bodies Danny brought in like Wilcox, Collins, and Sully (Melo will be down in Maine). If those guys plus KG can each play 12 minutes defending the opposing center, that would give us fresh defensive looks all the time, each with a varied skill set. Howard struggled a little bit against Big Baby, and Sullinger is two inches taller and hopefully by training camp a little bit faster than Big Baby too. With long athletes like KG or Wilcox lurking on the weak side guarding a guy like Pau Gasol we wouldn’t be too ill-supplied in defending the beasts of the league. Same goes for Philadelphia, Indiana, etc. Collins has been touted as a “Howard-stopper” so I’m excited to see if that nickname holds some truth as well.

    Anyways, go Celts! Banner 18 is just as far away from us as Banner 17 is from LA, Banner 3 is from Miami, and Banner 1 is from OKC.

    • http://redsarmy.com John

      I get what you’re saying. I was just speaking best-case scenario regarding Dwight specifically. I think everyone is working under the assumption that every best-cast scenario ever in the NBA as far as we’re concerned is the Celtics winning the title.

  • Danno

    Dwight just got Traded to the 1991 Celtics.

    No bench.
    No coach.
    a few star players way past their prime, riddled with injuries.

    • Lakers4Life

      lol.. C’mon man.. Really?

      • Danno

        Mike Brown. LOL.
        Bench? LOL.

        Kobe is old and his knee is about as trustworthy as his dating techniques.

        The Canadian Gollum is even older, more injury prone, and not used to being told what to do.

        Artest. LOL.

        Gasol is like an unmanned tricycle headed towards a busy intersection, all downhill.

        • Lakers4Life

          So I guess you’re sayin that team w that coach is overrated and can’t compete for a ship?

    • Chulinho

      Lol! This is true! Their starting five is very good though.

  • CoachAJ

    There still is only one ball on the court and a ball-centric PG like Nash has it. No more isolations for Kobe or Gasol, all working off what Nash does with the ball. Almost like what we do. They are definitely gonna have some issues of sharing for a while.

    • Chulinho

      I think their biggest problem will be what the C’s biggest problem has been for the last few seasons: an inconsistent bench. Their starting five will build large leads only for their bench to lose it. Antawn Jamison is not going to be a Sixth-Man of the Year candidate. Also, a team I think people are overlooking is the Clippers.

  • Chulinho

    Why are people saying they would prefer the Lakers to win a 17th title over the Heat winning a 3rd? Most of you probably have only hated the Heat since the 2010-2011 season. The Celtics and Lakers have hated each other for DECADES. The Heat will never be the Celtics (or the Lakers). Your real beef is probably with Lebron, Wade, Ray, or all of the above. Don’t act like a rivalry that started two years ago is bigger than a rivalry that spans over a half-century.

  • frickenWaaaltaaah

    Ahahaha now I feel like I can finally talk about it!

    ‘Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.’ -Napoleon.

  • Chris H

    This should be looked upon as a HUGE opportunity. We have a young core that needs to be tested by fire and they have the best leaders in there I can think of in KG and Pierce and JET in how to play “big time”.

    Instead of being pussy’s talking about a new super team with a 1,001 flaws(age, injuries, personalities) or a superhuman team of 3 that will crash sooner than later (can’t be all out 100+ games a year forever), we should be focused on making the young talent we have monsters now and in the future.

    For reference, I was just looking at the monster blocks Avery did on Westbrook, Durant and Wade last year. Continuing his development and swagger against the biggest names is the type of thing that will keep us dangerous and winning it all into the future.

    The “Celtics Way” of team play and individual sacrifice with a new generation is more important now than ever. If all our pieces show up and play to their potential, I don’t see how Doc and KG will let them off with anything less, the CELTICS ARE MONSTERS. Young, fast, deep.

    Once again, I quote our fearless founder Red. When asked by Russell “shouldn’t we be scouting other teams?” Red respondend “Fuck em, let them be concerned about what WE are doing”.

  • Jim

    I would stop obsessing about other teams.Great teams need great opponents to bring the best out of them,a Celtics history without the Lakers and vice versa would diminish both teams. We didn’t beat a load of rubbishy useless teams to win all those banners ,we beat the best available,and it was tough brutal work at times,but that’s why our history still shines so brightly and why it means so much to us to support the Celtics.

  • C’s#1Fan

    Well we can’t be mad at the Lakers for getting Howard. The celtics started all that in 2008. when we put 3 superstars together and we ended up winning a championship out of it. Right after that year every teams and superstars wants to do the same thing. Lebron, Bosh & wade got together, then Carmelo, Billups & Stoudamire. then Deron, Wallace, & Joe Johnson. And now Nash, Kobe, Gasol & Howard. That’s the way the NBA is today, get use to it people. Blame Danny Ainge for this mess.

  • zippittyay

    Dwight’s gonna have to lead the league in blocked shots again for how many point guards are going to blow right by Nash. Say good bye to leading the league in rebounding again though, he might have a little bit of competition for rebounds on this team. Not much, but more than at Orlando.