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Your Morning Dump… A sign-and-trade for Courtney Lee will be tricky

Chuck - Red's Army July 10, 2012 Celtics News, Free Agency, The Morning Dump 14 Comments

Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump. 

“There was no verbal agreement or anything, we’re just hearing each other out,” Lee said. “They expressed their interest. I expressed my interest. It’s not basketball wise, there needs to be discussions with the front offices and my agent. They need to communicate and go from there.”

Asked how he would characterize the nature of discussions with the Celtics, Lee said, “I wouldn’t know how to characterize it. I have a great relationship with Doc from the first time I stepped on an NBA court. I would say our meeting went well. As far as characterizing where I’m at with the team; coach and player-wise we’re on the same page.”

Lee’s agent is Dan Fegan, who is well aware that it’s a buyer’s market for shooting guards. His message: Stay patient. Lee understands the situation he’s in and he knows that if he is to work out a deal with the Celtics it would require some maneuvering. The Celtics are over the cap, so any deal with Lee would have to be worked out in a sign-and-trade arrangement with the Rockets.

“There’s other ways,” he said. “You know Houston and [GM] Darryl Morey, he loves draft picks and that’s one thing you can do with a sign-and-trade.”

Any sign-and-trade deal would require a contract of three years with 4.5 percent raises built in. This is where it gets tricky, but if the Celtics stay under the luxury tax — not the $4 million apron, but the tax itself — they can accept 150 percent of the value they send out. In other words, if they can build a package worth around $2.7 million, they could start a three-year contract with Lee for $4 million. (Those numbers are hypothetical. No trade parameters are known yet.)

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Lee says the Celtics are one of eight teams in the mix. I’ll be honest – I’m not thrilled with the idea of committing 3-years to Courtney Lee. There must be a reason he’s played for three teams in four years, right?

Lee mentions the inclusion of draft picks in the sign-and-trade. The Celtics would still need to include players, because draft picks carry no monetary value.

KC Johnson of the Chicago Tribune says the Celtics and Pacers are the leaders to land Lee.

In other news, Jason Terry intimated that had Dallas made him a priority, he might still be there:

“Boston was the first to call me and Doc Rivers got on the phone and said, ‘We need you, you’re our No. 1 priority,’ ” he told RF Sports Report, which followed Terry and his daughter’s AAU basketball team at a recent tournament in Orlando, Fla. “Had I got that same phone call from Dallas, I’d still be a Dallas Maverick.

“But I didn’t, so I’m on to bigger and better things and hopefully with that team, with the way they are structured right now we have another chance to win the championship.”

Sound familiar?

The rest of the links:

Globe – For Lee, Rivers, it’s a match game | Herald – Lee might be in plans down road | Sully’s debut strong | ESPN Boston – Courtney Lee: C’s in the mix | Sullinger talks about C’s debut | Good first impression for SullingerLue lets them play at summer league | ESPN – Knicks to resign JR Smith |

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  • Lantrell Walker

    I was thinking/hoping JJ Johnson and maybe even Moore + 2-3 picks would be able to get the job done. I’d love to see the growth of Courtney Lee alongside Rondo and under the tutelage of Doc.

    • T

      I don’t love JJJ or Moore but both along with 2-3 picks seems a little much for a guy that averages 10-11 ppg

      • Uh huh

        Dude etwauns a garbage fire and JJJ is our 3rd best PF. Courtney Lee can play and he’s young. I do that deal every time.

  • Filipe

    I really don’t see the problem with Lee playing in 3 teams during his rookie deal not when we started to look at context. He was good enough as a rookie to start for a finals team and be the centerpiece of a deal for a player that were still perceived as a star. He could do nothing in that awful Nets team and I remember seen multiple tweets from Houston bloggers hoping team would start him over Kevin Martin this past year.

    It’s true that Lee was deal in off season twice but in both cases it was for a veteran that just had an excelent season (Vince Carter in 2009 and Troy Murphy in 2010), so it made sense at the time to turn a youngster into them and in both cases he ended out performing the said veteran for next couple of years.

  • Josh Ratcliff

    W/ Terry for 3 years, Courtney Lee would make Moore expendable, Sully and Melo make JJ the same way. So a Moore/JJ and maybe the 2nd round pick from OKC in the Jeff Green dispute? Remember It’s Charlotte’s pick, so It’s likely to be a high second.

  • Derek

    Only the first year of a sign-and-trade deal needs to be guaranteed. So theoretically they could pull off a sign-and-trade with only a 1 or 2 year commitment if Lee were willing to take that.

  • DJisintheHall

    I would not trade JJ.

  • kricky

    I think Lee is just using us to get leverage for a bigger salary. At this point in his career the smart move is to first get paid. Looking at how much other dudes are getting I’m sure he’ll get at least 6 million a year. How are we going to match that even in a sign and trade?

  • ShawnCVD

    We have Krstic bird rights… S and T him with Moore and a pick?

    • Derek

      Kristc just resigned overseas. Scratch that option.

    • Alex

      This has been brought up SO MANY times, mate…

      You can no longer Sign and Trade players that did not play in your roster in the previous season.

      Therefore, we can’t use Krstic on any trade.

  • Lee in Oregon

    After the David West fiasco last year, I’ll be pissed if Lee ends up in Indy.

    Is anyone concerned that after KG, the only guy we have that can play center is Melo?

  • michael

    I’m in favor of JJJ and E’Twaun for Lee. I think we need to throw in Sean Williams to make the numbers work. Plus that OKC pick? Might not be quite enough bait, but better for Houston than losing Lee outright to someone else.

  • frickenWaaaltaaah

    Mostly I like the idea of turning 2 or 3 younger pieces Doc might play into one young guy he’d definitely play, but of course we shouldn’t make like New York going after Carmelo and give them half the team. But a deal like this makes room for what we already have, and could help bring back Pietrus, who I’d really really like the team to keep as well.

    ‘Man named Courtney’ is a nice defender who also shoots the three well. He also covers guys in the ‘big guard’ size range. So obviously, he should be a good fit for the current roster. He’s not the only guy like that out there, but he’s a good one, and even if he is only maybe available, it’s good to see the C’s are in the hunt for him.

    Too bad Nads is staying in Moscow, he could have been part of a deal here.