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Mannix: Rondo and Ray didn’t get along

Chuck - Red's Army June 11, 2012 Celtics News, Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen 22 Comments

During an appearance this morning on WEEI, Sports Illustrated’s Chris Mannix hinted at a riff between Rajon Rondo and Ray Allen:

“There is going to be a ton of interest in Ray Allen in the offseason,” Mannix said. “He’s going to be able to pick and choose where he wants to play.”

Allen conceivably could return to Boston, but Mannix said that decision might be affected by Allen’s apparent struggles to get along with Rajon Rondo.

“I think there’s no question that the relationship was strained over this year,” Mannix said. “How strained is the key, and it’s still a little bit unclear. There was some friction between those two. I think that could play a role in Ray’s decision not to come back. Now, I agree, I think that Boston probably wasn’t going to bring him back anyway, you’re right, it’s Avery Bradley’s job and Ray isn’t coming back to the Celtics to be a bench player, especially when he can be a bench player on a team that might be more likely to win a championship. But I think the relationship over the last year between Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo soured. Now, I’m not entirely clear as to how bad it got. But certainly I know that there was some legitimate, palpable friction between those two players and I think that will ultimately affect his decision in free agency.”

I think people are exaggerating the likelihood that Ray Allen leaves Boston. Is he really going to uproot to chase a championship? And I don’t see a scenario where the Celtics suddenly become a lottery team. Not with $25 million in cap space and a Rajon Rondo and Avery Bradley backcourt.

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  • Rik

    I just don’t see this as plausible. Is there any proof that there was friction between Ray and Rondo?

  • Alex

    I have to admit… I never really see Rondo and Ray Allen every acknowledge each other much on the court. Sure, they talk about the game but it’s usually quickly. You see Pierce and KG constantly patting Rondo’s back, giving him a hug, hi-fiving him constantly, but you never really see Ray Allen doing that stuff with Rondo.

    Hmm…

  • EMurph413

    Here we go again. maybe this is from the same reliable source Chris Broussard has… two days removed from the game 7 loss, and we’re throwing Rondo under the bus.

    I just received word from a reliable source that Rondo may have cuased those bone spurs in Ray’s ankle. While it cannot totally be substantiated, there is a slightly plausible, borderline conceivable possibility this may be completely true.

  • RedsLoveChild

    They`ll be a ton of interest in Allen?!? Allen will be able to pick and choose where he wants to play?!?

    Right…on what planet?

    • KY Celts fan

      The planet that loves knock down three-point shooters and utmost professionals.

      • RedsLoveChild

        What Ray Allen are you talking about?

        I`m talking about the 37 year old…with very bad ankles…who cannot defend a parked car.

        • KY Celts fan

          Once those bone spurs get removed, Ray’s ankles won’t be that big of deal. And there are a lot of teams that won’t really care about Ray’s defense as long as he knocks down a few 3’s. So, yeah, if Ray wants to play, most teams will want him.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Thankfully, Danny Ainge wants to win…and he`s just days away from turning Ray Allen into an Ex-Celtic.

  • Wally

    @Alex I didn’t really see Paul or Kevin do that with Ray either, I don’t think that means there’s a rift between them..
    Paul and Kevin had more leadership roles and Rondo was like their protege.

  • J Butler

    What team hasn’t had some internal friction in the locker room? It doesn’t warrant leaving the organization.

  • KY Celts fan

    I see this as more media sensationalism. Ray and Rondo may have been unhappy with each other at times, but we’ve heard the exact same stories about how Rondo had a bad relationship with KG (exaggerated), Rondo had problems with Doc and staff (exaggerated), Rondo had leadership battles with Pierce (exaggerated), and now we hear that Rondo and Ray aren’t friends anymore. I call bull.

    The Celtics only let Ray go if he asks for a ridiculous amount of money. Ray’s home is in Boston. He loves the fans. He loves Doc. He’s a professional, and this team has been looking for an offensive present off the bench for years. I honestly don’t think he would be offended by a Manu Ginobli type role for this team.

    But, if he does want too much money, Ainge would definitely let him walk.

    • vivek NJ

      +1

  • Lee in Oregon

    I’d like to have Ray back at the home-town discount, the guy can still play a reserve role. He was totally professional when AB took over as starter and ALWAYS played hard in Boston. If he want’s chase a ring, that’s his business. His ball-handling & passing were driving me crazy earlier this year. His shooting has been streaky for some time now. I will say this, I thought he defended well in the playoffs, especially for a guy who needs ankle surgery. As for the riff with Rondo, I’m not putting alot of stock in that…..I imagine most guys have a beef with Rondo at some point during the season. Maybe RR got tired of waiting for Ray to run through 3 screens every time down.

  • kricky

    Ray may want a longer deal that the Cs won’t be willing to give. The guy is clearly OCD and therefore wants all his ducks in a row. Don’t get me wrong – I love him for it and this has made him the deadliest shooter in NBA history. But I don’ t think this situation is a fit and I think he’ll walk unless he can get 2+ years on his contract.

  • JimmyG

    I’d like to see Ray back but only as a sixth man. In truth, I wouldn’t be overly upset if he walked at this point. That rumor sounds like bs though. I’ve never heard anything like that throughout the season. If I’ve learned anything this year it’s that the media has no idea what’s actually going on in the NBA, which is a good thing.

  • vivek NJ

    people who want ray allen also want him for less. either because they don’t want to pay nor have cap room. same for KG.

    I laughed at the article. they said rondo had rift with doc, then they said he had with KG now Ray. next up Paul ? These analysts cant even predict a series they now predict relationship ? IF was any Jackie Mac would have said. she has been spot on in these things.

  • vivek NJ

    btw, I love the new look.

  • sev

    not to mention all you hear from the players is how ridiculously close the locker room was…..and they acknowledged they fought from time to time, but that’s what family does.

  • hebertofnh

    The only reason I could see any friction is that Rondo is good friends with Bradley and had better on court chemistry with him. Ray’s a guy who always wants touches and Rondo waves him off of plays a lot. Natural for there to be some kind of animosity, but I’m sure Mannix is overblowing it.

  • Jay

    I seem to recall a few years ago on The Association that Rondo was the only other Celtic at Rays moms house for Thanksgiving.

    • misel

      yeah, there was also this episode in The Association, at the christmas game in orlando, rondo and his girlfriend were with the allens during christmas dinner…

  • MCpats

    I agree with the recent comments that if there was any friction at all, it was overblown by Mannix. One thing to note on Ray coming back: Bradley will more than likely have to miss a good chunk of time next season as he rehabs his shoulder (recovery for his procedure usually takes 6-8 months)…so all of a sudden bringing Ray back may be more of a priority, especially since his recovery should only be 6-8 weeks for ankle debridement.