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Cold, hard facts: The reality of where the Celtics stand right now

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) May 24, 2012 Gametime 27 Comments

So we're all still a little upset over last night.  I get that.  It was probably the worst playoff game we've ever watched.  The score at halftime was worse than some Div. 3 games.  And today, we're all saying a lot of things that we may or may not regret. 

With that in mind, here are a few of the things being said, and the absolute truth of the matter.  There is no BS here.  This has nothing to do with faith or desire.  What I want and what is true are, in many cases now, very different.  

Fact:  The Celtics will win Game 7

The Philadelphia 76'ers were not ready to win Game 6.  They came out, got caught up in their home crowd's madness, and started whipping passes into the front row.  They did plenty of things right, which contributed to the Celtics looking bad.  But they did plenty of things wrong, which gave the Celtics a chance to win despite one of their worst performances of the season.  Now, you put them in an elimination game, on the road, against a veteran team… and it's not going to end well for Philadelphia.  They're not ready for this moment.

Fact: The Celtics will lose the next series

Ray Allen's ankle is a mess.  Avery Bradley is probably done for the season.  Paul Pierce's knee is at 20%.  Greg Stiemsma's foot is as bad as it's ever been.  Mickael Pietrus will need offseason surgery to clean out his knee.  The Celtics are being forced to rely on Ryan Hollins and Keyon Dooling.  

I'm sorry to tell you, but Marquis Daniels, Sasha Pavlovic, and E'Twaun Moore are not going to carry you to a title. 

Fact: KG can't do it for 40 minutes EVERY night

The Celtics have absolutely maximized Kevin Garnett's production.  He'll probably go out there Saturday and demolish Philly.  But to play him 40 minutes every other night takes its toll.  And against a guy like Lavoy Allen, who is big, strong and tough, it's just too hard to do it EVERY game.  Doc doesn't have much choice but to ride KG as much as he can.  But when you're constantly running on fumes, some times you run out of gas.

KG dropped 20 and 11 last night, but like Doc said, it wasn't the kind of scoring the C's needed.  He's nevrer truly been a post player, but he's tried like hell to be one this series.  When he gets tired, though, he becomes a face up guy who can get his shot off even with guys in his face because he's 7-feet tall and his release is probably at 9 and a half feet.  He's ridiculously good at that shot, but after 17 years… man… it's all just too much. 

Fact: This is the end of the Big 3 era

Even if they all come back, this isn't the "Big 3" anymore.  Avery Bradley is the starter now.  Kevin Garnett will play 30 minutes or less next season.  New guys, be they Jeff Green, E'Twaun Moore, JaJuan Johnson, or others, will step up, assume new, expanded roles, and the Celtics will transition into Rajon Rondo's team (assuming he sticks around this offseason).  

I'm sorry to say that this is over, but it is.  Whenever this particular ride ends, so will this new era of Celtics greatness.  

I believe these facts to be the honest truth.  I don't want them to be the truth.  I want them to be wrong.  I want Ray Allen to magically find his form, but he's more liability than anything else.  He's a warrior for trying, but he's no longer truly effective, and he won't be until he gets his ankle fixed.  I want the Celtics to shock the hell out of us and put an incomprehensible title run together.  But they won't.  Miami, Indiana, San Antonio, and Oklahoma City are all too much better than Boston. 

I say these things not to shake faith or diminish fandom.  I say these things to fulfill my obligation to be honest with you, and, with myself.  This is what the Celtics are. 

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  • Alex

    Yep… It’s quite unfortunate to see this team make such a great run in the second half of the season and the injuries have come back to haunt them.
    Terrible luck.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/stompininmyaf1 Thats What She

    Great post, literally everything I have been thinking and posting here. The big 3 brought Celtics fans like myself (22 years old) something I waited my whole life for: a title. We thank them for that, but its time to move on.

  • http://youtu.be/hN5u19CdgXw Ryan Hummel

    So I am making a video to help jump start my goal. My goal is to have a crowd at TD GARDEN to see a sea of green. It looks beautiful in the OKC Arena, and the other numerous teams that pull it off. I know that they give them shirts to wear, but if this does catch on maybe our stadium will give out free shirts. If not I still would love to see some organization of our crowd and see everyone wearing some kind of green. I see very little amount of green and i would love for this number to reach 80%! It would be awesome to see KG talk about our crowd wearing green. Not only I believe it would make it a tougher environment for our opponents but it would give our guys some adrenaline, and I feel it would bring our crowd more together. Spread the news.
    Follow me on twitter @CELTICSHOORAH
    #wearGREEN
    http://youtu.be/hN5u19CdgXw

  • Danno

    We can take solace in the fact that even if they lose in the next series, or by some chance in the Finals, it’s not because Miami is the BETTER team. It is because they are the HEALTHIER team right now.
    The most critical injuries are primarily to the younger guys(Bradley, Stiemsma, Pietrus), and aren’t necessarily age-related.
    All told, had the Celtics had their full roster available at even 80% health, I’d take them against any of the teams left playing right now.
    That said – I hope to see two major changes this offseason:
    Trade Ray for youth.
    Trade Rondo for someone who is willing to play like a champion every game, not just when he feels like it.

  • wil

    ray ray is a free agent so they cant trade him.
    rondo is arguably the best point guard out there, but even the best will have some bad games

  • http://profile.typepad.com/kwapt KWAPT

    I’m with you. White t-shirts are straight lame. They’re cheaper to make-period. And those little hand towels suck too. Green shirts are the b*lls. I hope to see them on Saturday night.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/redslovechild1 Redslovechild

    Bradley played a huge role in Boston`s late season success. Losing him is an absolute killer!
    Blowing the 18 point lead in Game 4 might very well have cost Boston the series…I can definitely see Philadelphia winning Game 7.
    Ray Allen has had a career anyone would kill for. It`s now time for him to do the “honorable” thing, and announce his retirement.

  • Danno

    Sign & Trade Ray.
    Rondo is a selfish, lazy, arrogant dick. Fuck him. Send him to Charlotte or Sacramento so he can learn humility.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f5d5008970c Jester00

    What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!And it ain’t over now. ‘Cause when the goin’ gets tough….The tough get goin’! Who’s with me? Let’s go! What the f#ck happened to the Redsarmy I used to know? Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts, huh? This could be the greatest seasons of our lives, but you’re gonna let it be the worst. “Ooh, we’re afraid to go with you Jester00, we might get in trouble.” Well just kiss my a$$ from now on! Not me! I’m not gonna take this. Philly, they are dead men! Miami, dead! OKC…

  • john

    Ray is not retiring. he will get the bone spurs removed and then will cget courted for a mid level contract by every contender out there.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/vandelay28 Lakerhater

    Coudn’t have said it any better.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f6f0b73970c Celticsfanatic

    Never underestimate the heart of a champion. It doesn’t look good… but that’s just when the Celtics start to thrive. If we can make it through game 7 without Bradley and the Miami-Indy series goes seven, we still have a shot.

  • RyanH

    I just want one more win. I really don’t give a shit if we got blown out by a younger, healthier Miami squad. Really, I just want one more game where I can enjoy Paul, Ray and Kevin together. Those three restored Celtic pride. Some were lucky enough to enjoy decades of success in the 70’s and 80’s. I was born the year that Lenny Bias died and never got a chance to enjoy the good times. Pierce and Garnett have meant the world to me as a fan of the Celtics, and ball in general. I know times are changing and the future doesn’t necessarily look so bright, but all I hope for is that the fans show those three guys the right amount of support for what they’ve accomplished in their careers and the effort and intensity that they’ve shown in the face of injury, age and adversity.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/triompheemperor brian

    I like your spirit man but the germans didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor, the Japs did. and that was a start
    I agree with John. but at least we have a better future than the Lakers haha
    They got embarrassed

  • Noori

    He was trying to immitate the movie Animal House lol

  • Shane

    Jester00 was quoting Animal House. How have you not seen that movie?

  • http://msnhotmail.com belinda

    Im with you, I believe Doc, and I know this sounds crazy needs to give Sasha a chance, with the 76ers he should have given Twan Moore a chance, they can defend and eat of the clock, Doc is to set in his ways he’s looking at what Ray use to do, appose to what he’s doing now, before its to late he needs to get Marquis going to,I think they have a chance at the nba finals as well, i know that too sounds crazy but miami lost bosh, and wade is having knee problems, so they are on the same level as boston, all miami has is lebron and a possible wade, boston has garnett, rondo, pierce and bass, if they could just get a little bench help with the heat, they could at least make the nba finals.

  • Danno

    Let him go, he’s on a roll.

  • Quest

    8th seed Philly pushing the Celtics to game 7. Even if Celtics win this series struggling with injuries and tight schedule they get blown out either by Heat or Pacers. Just delaying the misery.

  • James Eisenman

    Don’t count Miami as such a lock. If Bosh doesn’t come back, Wade and LeBron alone will not necessarily carry them over the Celtics, even if we do have our injured players. Their bench truly sucks. I can’t see us getting beyond SA or OKC but Miami. Nah!

  • jadams5214

    Hope Shaq is right about what to expect from Rondo on Saturday – From his twitter feed
    SHAQ‏@SHAQ
    Leaving @revereboston – see you next month Boston. Watch Rondo go ballistic tomorrow

  • Celts Love

    DOC PLEASE GIVE SASHA A CHANCE!!
    He’s a true potential game changer, and he’s been sitting on the bench this whole series, EVEN THOUGH Sasha was on fire at the end of the regular season. I’m putting this out there … if Sasha had started a couple games in this series, maybe, just maybe, Celts could be headed to Miami, FL right now.

  • Melb Aus Vik

    Melb Aus Vik
    Man why does this have to end like this, sucha shame it kills me

  • http://profile.typepad.com/triompheemperor brian

    oops sorry Jester! No i haven’t seen that movie and i’ll check it out

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f5d5008970c Jester00

    It is a must see might be a little dated depending on how old you are, but I think it holds up! Philly’s chances of winning the same as bluto’s GPA which was?

  • CoachBo

    You know, I was fine at the deadline and in the pre-season with Rondo not being moved.
    It seems like everyone save 90 percent of the swinging dicks who post on Celtics boards, or in some cases own thm, realize that Rondo is indeed selfish, lazy and arrogant.
    Wednesday night’s putrid, half-assed attempt by Rondo at an effort has me re-evaluating that. Right now, I’d take a draft choice for him – any draft choice.
    I grew up watching Hondo play an entire playoffs on a badly injured foot, watching Big Red take every 50-50 play for his own, watching Bird simply will our team to victories at the price of several years of his own career
    So watching a player wear the Green and mail in games like Rondo did Wednesday night is simply unacceptable. And it’s not the first time in these playoffs, from the sheer selfish stupidity of the Atlanta ejection to a very lazy performance in Game 4 where he flat quit attacking with the lead to one of the most un-Celtic performances I’ve ever seen Wednesday night. Red is spinning in his grave right now.
    I am very, very near the point of “Get rid of him. I don’t give a shit what you get.” I don’t want that kind of person wearing a Celtics uniform.

  • Psquared

    You are absolutely out of your mind to say this. I hate reading stuff like this. If you can’t appreciate what rondo has done here then I dont know what to do for you. He had one bad game on wednesday and I was mad at him too but to think that we’d be better off without him on our team is insane. The guy studies film and prepares for games harder than anyone else on the team and played with his damn arm falling off last year. Paul Pierce had 2 horrific games at the beginning of this series and no one was clamoring to trade him. A lot of us seem to have become too used to Rondo’s greatness that as soon as he has an off night he’s “lazy”, “selfish” or “doesn’t care”. He’s had one of the greatest stretches for a point guard ever with his streak of 10 assist or more. But who am I kidding, this is boston we’re ready to rip apart every player at the drop of a hat.