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Taking Stock: Celtics – Bulls

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) April 6, 2012 Uncategorized 6 Comments on Taking Stock: Celtics – Bulls

Taking stock

After every game, we'll take stock of how each individual performance affects the player's overall value.


Sideways_double_arrow Rajon Rondo: Sometimes, when it's obvious some guys are off, Rondo has to take it upon himself to start taking over and getting more aggressive.  Even if he takes it to the hole a few straight trips… even if he takes free throws and misses all six… sometimes you have to let guys like KG and Pierce take offensive sets off to get a little more rest.  The stat line looked good, but Rondo has to take advantage of his youth this month.

Sideways_double_arrowPaul Pierce: Tailed off after a hot start.  He got tired, and having Luol Deng in your face all night doesn't help matters any.

Green arrowKevin Garnett:  Everything was short for KG.  Everything.  He managed 14 rebounds though… no small feat against the Bulls.  He busted his ass out there and gave everything he had.  It's too bad he didn't have enough in the tank

 Sideways_double_arrowAvery Bradley:  He had his moments, for sure.  Someone mentioned this somewhere and I wonder the same thing:  It's one thing for Bradley to start when Ray's hurt… but I wonder if he felt a lot of pressure starting when Ray's healthy?

Sideways_double_arrowBrandon Bass:  I have a hard time getting on Bass when he had his jumper going.  He also had that one huge follow dunk… but just 3 defensive rebounds in 34 minutes of work is too much to overlook.  Those defensive rebounds are stops.  Giving up second chances saps your energy.  Bass HAS to get in there and rebound better. 


Sideways_double_arrowRay Allen:  He's starting to get more comfortable and he did a decent job offensively off the bench.  This will take a little getting used to, though.  Defensively, Ray has become a flat-out liability.  Sorry for harping on it, but it's true.

Sideways_double_arrowRyan Hollins:  13 minutes and he showed some good energy, but he's too new to be much of a contributor right now.  He got lost a few times and it was just obvious that he still has a lot to learn about the game in general, and the Celtics system.


Greg Stiemsma: Just 11 minutes of play and I'm wondering if the injuries are catching up to him too. He's not the same guy right now.      

Sideways_double_arrowJaJuan Johnson, Marquis Daniels, E'Twaun Moore, Sasha Pavlovic, Keyon Dooling:  These guys are going to need to play minutes soon.   


Sideways_double_arrowDoc Rivers:  I like starting Bradley and I think that's going to work out.  I liked him tearing his team a new asshole after the game when he didn't like the effort.  I didn't like him playing KG and Paul Pierce the entire 4th quarter on back-to-back nights.  Way too much.  

Doc is going to have little choice but to play these younger guys soon.  You can't burn these guys out now. 


Red arrowI have a bad feeling after this game.  I'm hoping the Doc tongue-lashing works, but the C's needed to win one of these two games, and they lost both. 

The positives of the first half were washed away with the second half and Doc's tirade after the game sealed the negative overall rating of this game.  

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  • Quest

    Yea agree losing to the Spurs and Bulls like this not looking good for the C’s. May come out with more energy after Doc’s tongue lashing but not seeing these on court/team problems going away. You can’t play like this all season and then all of sudden in the playoffs miraculously turn things around.

  • Quest

    Its time for Rajon to show he is a franchise player and pick up the slack when KG & PP struggling w tired legs down the stretch. Doc right they need a scorer not just a playmaker at this time.

  • Anti

    ” Tailed off after a hot start” – “He busted his ass out there and gave everything he had” – Double standards?

  • David

    Frankly, I feel Avery should have been allowed to play the last seven minutes of the 4th quarter because Ray Allen is far too flat-footed on defense. If the Celtics are going to lose, they should go down fighting instead of sitting back and watching Deng take over the game when it really counted. Although Pierce played relatively well in the first half, his fourth quarter performance reflected the fact he was simply too tired to make a difference. KG too was exhausted. So the team as a whole was in no position to beat the Bulls in their own gym late in the game.
    The aging Celtics will be quite lucky to win the Division this basketball season. They just don’t have the legs late in the game when it is on the line, and most of their reserves are simply not now ready to compete at this level. That’s why the Pietrus loss/injury was like a dagger in the heart.To make matters worse, Green can’t play due to heart surgery and O’neal is out for the season due to some kind of injury although O’neal when he was healthy played with too little energy. He gave up far too many offensive rebounds because he failed to properly close out against opponents. As such, I never saw Oneal as a true starter this basketball season, just a benchwarmer without the requisite energy to dominate the boards, at least occasionally.
    KG is playing about as hard as he can right now, but he’s thirty-five years old and counting, and he really doesn’t have a suitable substitute, someone who can score, rebound, and run when he is resting on the bench. The drop off in talent and skill at the center position is just too significant when KG is not on the floor.
    So who made these trade and aquisition decsions, leaving Doc and the team with too little basketball skill? Yes, the injuries make a big difference, but that doesn’t change the fact that the Celtics have too little bench talent and that likely front office personnel and management made decisions that have handicapped this team. Given the injuries, the aging legs, and the bad management decisions, it will be extremely difficult for the Celtics to win the Division, and if they do, they will be lucky to defeat a first round opponent in the playoffs.

  • Uh… David this season was well outside of the C’s Window to compete. You can’t talk excessive injury AND poor management by Ainge in the same thought. The franshise is strapped due to being well over the salary cap. Ainge planned carefully so that this Summer, when DH was supposed be available, to be well under the cap for once.
    Ainge tried to get David West and lost out to the Pacers. Then Jeff Green, Boston’s sixth man, doesn’t get to play a SINGLE GAME THIS YEAR. How would any team in this league fare with the sudden loss of it’s sixth man? Then as you said JO goes down (expected) and Wilcox as well! Fact older teams win championships much more often than young ones. The down side is that injuries can happen then an older team will have fewer younger legs to turn to.
    Ainge fleeced Orlando by sending them BBD for Bass. Ainge and Doc kept with Bradley and his break out March saved Boston’s season to date. Ainge also signed Rondo at 11Million per year! That’s outstanding value for Rondo and there would be way fewer bad contracts in this league if GMs would follow Ainges’ example and shell out max contracts exclusively to top 15 players only. Also Ainge in my book was a hero this past trade deadline by not taking on some bad contract for Ray Allen or whomever.
    I’m not calling Ainge untouchable. I’m saying it’s intellectually lazy to blame someone for shortcomings due to situations he’s trying to improve (rebuilding and getting under the cap) and things he cannot control (injuries and age).

  • Yep, you guys are right: Rondo’s stats look decent, or good, sometimes phenomenal.
    But whenever I watch him play, most of the times I see a lazy attitude, and above all I don’t see that kind of charisma or personality that could make me think “he’s the franchise player. He’s the one to build around”. No way.