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Your Morning Dump… Where Pierce doesn’t have Steve Nash-like control

Chuck - Red's Army March 14, 2012 Uncategorized 15 Comments

Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here... highlighting the big storyline. Because there's nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

But when I asked Pierce if he wanted to end his career as a Celtic, there wasn't much passion in his response. It's probably a cautionary reflex that comes with being in the NBA long enough to see every possible scenario unfold.

"You ask anybody in the league who's been somewhere as long as I have, why wouldn't they [want to stay]?" Pierce said. "But at the end of the day I know it's a business. There's only so much I control.

"Shaq's been traded; everybody's been traded. I don't know if anything is in anybody's hands.

"I've heard it put out there that if Danny Ainge gets the opportunity, [a trade] can happen. So I'm not in a situation like Steve Nash where it's only if he requests it. That wasn't said to me. That's what it is."

ESPN – Will Pierce decide his fate?

J.A. Adande with a great column on Paul Pierce. Who knew he wrote about non-Lakers topics? 

I've gone on record saying I support any deal that improves the future of the Celtics. That includes trading Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo and Paul Pierce. 

But with the trade deadline approaching, I'm starting to get sentimental. Yes, I have a heart. Maybe it's because there are no obvious deals that would benefit the Celtics.

Maybe it's because I've watched Paul Pierce play basketball for the better part of my adult life. Memories of the near-fatal stabbing, the improbable 2002 playoff run, the silliness vs Indiana in 2005 and the 2008 championship running through my head. 

Before you laugh in my face and make the obvious reference that the NBA is a cold-blooded business, check out Bill Simmons' latest column:

The truth is, the Celtics aren’t getting Dwight Howard or Deron Williams. Blowing things up for a pipe dream makes no sense, especially when the alternative is making this year’s team better (within reason) and hoping for one last memorable playoff run. The Celtics are what they are: old, proud, stubborn and (mostly) fun to watch simply because they know each other so well. They are going to fall in the first or second round of the playoffs, probably to Chicago in a look-at-how-the-roles-have-flipped bloodbath against the once-precocious Bulls in which they put up the biggest fight you can imagine. And lose. But still.

… Leave them alone and the 2012 Boston Celtics will go down swinging. That’s all we know, and frankly, that’s good enough for me.

I'm sentimental and I agree with Bill Simmons. Someone call me ambulance.

Related links: Herald – Pierce, Ray dealing with reality 

On Page 2, the Celtics remain interested in Josh Howard.

The Los Angeles Lakers, San Antonio, New York and Boston have shown recent interest in acquiring Jazz forward Josh Howard, Yahoo! Sports' Marc Spears reported Tuesday.

HoopsWorld's Alex Kennedy reported earlier Tuesday that Howard, in addition to Utah's C.J. Miles and Jamaal Tinsley, has been discussed as part of a three-team deal involving Minnesota and the Spurs.

A source close to Howard told The Salt Lake Tribune on Tuesday they were unaware of any trade involving the veteran small forward. Yahoo! reported the Jazz are reluctant to trade Howard, who has worked his way into Utah's starting lineup and is well-liked by his coaches and teammates.

Howard's been a free-agent steal for the Jazz, after signing a one-year deal with the team before the 2011-12 season. He recently told The Tribune he's open to signing an extension with Utah. But every strong game Howard plays for the Jazz — proving his return is legitimate, following two injury-plagued seaons — makes him more attractive to other teams looking to add a veteran asset for a playoff run.

Salt Lake City Tribune

Josh Howard is averaging about 9 points and 4 rebounds in 23 minutes. Why would Utah – a team only a few games out of the playoff race – dump him?

Even if Howard is on the way out, what do the Celtics have to offer? Forget Avery Bradley. Marquis Daniels, Sasha Pavlovic and Keyon Dooling have zero value. JaJuan Johnson? Utah has a ton of power forwards.

I don't see a fit.

Related links: Globe - Ainge weighing trade options 

The rest of the links:

CSNNE – Celtics delighted as Stiemsma shows tough side | Blakely six pack | Herald – Stiemsma shows snarling side | Sunnier in California | ESPN Boston - For Cs, it's together or never | Warriors/Bucks swap should aid C's

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  • BigLarry

    Paul Pierce, is a Celtic for life. Get that Ainge wants to rebuild and get young for the future. But u don’t trade your franchise player during a shorten lockout season. The Big 3 are in their mid 30’s; what value does Ainge truly expect in return? The core 3 can make a couple of contenders better, but Ainge ain’t getting Howard, Williams, young prospects or draft picks.
    Ainge, needs to be careful, because he does not want to make the same mistake as last season. Just rebuild next season and for the future. As for now let the Big 3 go out fighting!

  • brain dead

    patrick ewing finished his career with the sonics and magic, hakeem olajuwon retired a raptor! i hate to see paul get traded but the celtics future is all that matters.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/kwapt KWAPT

    I just don’t see anything out there right now that would catapult this team to a 6th or 5th seed. Don’t do something dumb Ainge. Wait until the offseason. I have green goggles on obviously, but would love to see Pierce retire as a Celtic. However, I also want to start winning again, so if Danny does move Pierce or one of the other core guys, I just pray it’s for someone young and athletic with a decent skill-set..which again I don’t see out there. However, their will be plenty of guys like that in this year’s draft…

  • Danno

    I’m hearing more chatter today about trading JO. But it’s not for who you think:
    JO, The LAC first round pick we acquired from OKC, and Cash, to OKC for Perk. This is Danny’s already in place bailout plan if Dwight Howard gets traded before tomorrow. Or at least, this is how the rumor is being presented.

  • KY Celts fan

    whaaaaaaat? source, please. This can’t be real.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f2d28d7970c BigMck

    On forums and in comments sections or from a media outlet?

  • Danno

    In RealGM forums, but by a poster with known ties to the league and legit sources.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/redslovechild1 Redslovechild

    This is insane!
    OKC is going for a championship THIS year.
    Somebody, somewhere is smoking crack!

  • Danno

    They’re not really happy with Perk, and he’s not happy being there. It’s really not all that insane. The thinking behind it is they want to re-sign Ibaka and Harden, but will likely lose one of the two if they hold onto Perk’s semi-albatross of a contract.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/redslovechild1 Redslovechild

    Were we not going for a championship last year before Danny traded Perk?
    Now this?!?
    Perk`s contract situation is the ultimate “banner-buster”!

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f5d5008970c Jester00

    I would rather them sign AI then Josh Howard I think I would quit watching the celtics if they brought him here

  • Eric

    I’ve been following the Celtics since I was a kid. I remember all them moments too. But it’s time to let go and start looking towards the future. Them memories will ALWAYS be there, but the fact of the matter is we wanna see a celtics team that actually stands a chance against the Bulls and the Heat in the playoffs. I hate the Heat so much and if we lose to them again in the playoffs im gonna lose it. It’s time to start building around Rondo, and as against it as much as a lot of Celtics fans are, I think if the Celtics can land Carmelo Anthony and one more superstar, they’d be all set. I read about that trade machine and how Pierce and Bradley for Melo, would work. I can see that trade happening with maybe a few draft picks. Ray should stay, Garnett should go. Maybe try and get Beasley? Beasley’s pretty nasty and I’d love to see that line up play together. Rondo, Ray, Melo, Beasley, and get a new Center somewhere or start using Stiemsma a lot more. It pisses me off that he’s not getting the recognition he deserves. He’s a great shot blocker and can shoot mid range. I’m not sure if he’s consistent because of his playing time, but give him a chance. Anyways, we need to start rebuilding now while the team still has some players with value and valuable players are being shown to us.

  • paul

    I think Celtics fans and writers are creepy, disgusting little monsters, because you mostly scream at the players to be loyal, but you refuse to show them any loyalty. Why should they care, when you don’t care?

  • paul

    It’ s something to think about that the Celtics greatness started when Easy Ed Mccauley was traded away so that Red could get Bill Russell. Now THAT was a bold move, but it was a very RARE move. Red and owner Brown didn’t constantly try to trade key players, and they felt very deeply, very emotionally about trading Mccauley, and almost didn’t do it. Loyalty meant something in those days, and it was the foundation on which greatness was built.
    Now you little monsters want to build greatness on a foundation of pure, unadulterated DISLOYALTY. It’s sickening. you are like two year old children. I live next to one. This little child has no idea of what it takes to build anything. It just screams when it doesn’t get what it wants. You are like that. But you aren’t two years old. The little child will learn better. You never will. You’ve given up on learning. You just want to WINNNNNNNNNNN. WIN AT ANY COST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
    Worse than two year olds. Little monsters.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/redslovechild1 Redslovechild

    It might be time to refill the meds.