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NBA rescinds two technical fouls from two-point loss to Knicks

Joey crawfordRemember Christmas… when the Celtics lost to the New York Knicks by two points? 

Remember how the referees called SIX technical fouls, thanks in no small part to Mr. Happy Whistle Joey Crawford?  

Well… guess what?  The league says Joey was a little overzealous.

Rivers added that two of the three technical fouls assessed the Celtics during Sunday’s loss to the Knicks were rescinded. Though Rivers said he didn’t know which two were nullified, it is believed that the two fourth quarter techs called on Sasha Pavlovic and Jermaine O’Neal were amnestied. 

Two techs.  Two free points.  Two point loss.  

Vent away in the comments. 

I wrote back in 2009 that the league should create the Joey Crawford rule.  So allow me to just quote myself:

So how about we create the Joey Crawford rule?  Let's start counting up how many technical fouls get rescinded… and if a ref hits a certain threshold, then he gets suspended too?  Why shouldn't the NBA keep its refs' emotions in check too?

It's nice that the league will rescind a tech so they don't go against the player's total.  Sheed and Perk each have 4 already… so anything that will avoid those guys missing time is great.  But the technical foul can change the game, too.  The techs on Perk and Doc came at a critical time.  They stop the flow of the game.  They can throw a player off for the next trip down the floor… or even get him ejected.

Or, how about another idea I had after rescinded techs last season:

I've said it before… and I'll say it again…. NBA refs need to be fined for rescinded flagrants.  They need to know that flagrant fouls are potentially game-changing calls… and they need to be handed out appropriately.  There is no excuse for a critical call to be rescinded after the fact when it could have been the difference between winning and losing.

The bottom line:  The league NEEDS to fix this problem.  The two free points for the Knicks that they shouldn't have had in what ended up being a two point loss is absolutely inexcusable. 

Technicals change the flow of the game.  They stop momentum for one team.  They create momentum for another.  They rattle players and coaches when they are horribly unwarranted.  And when you have one tech, you can't even bang in the post with someone for fear of the stupid "double-tech" that could now get you tossed. 

Joey Crawford's quick trigger has gone too far. It went too far two years ago.  And it's been going too far long before that.  Enough is enough.  

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  • I like the point system. Rather than fines (which I think would be impossible to get the referees union to agree to) I think the point system should be used to determine who gets assigned to work the playoff and marquee regular season games. I don’t know their pay structure but I would guess these games are more lucrative. It would be like an employee owning shares in their own company.

  • Whistle happy refs like Joey Crawford should be sent down to the D-league for a season….starting with Joey Crawford to set a precedent .

  • I’m waiting for the day when a player finally has enough and just decks a referee. I kinda wish Sheed had come back for his last year to do just this. Play til he feels he has the right opportunity, knock the ref down, get suspended for the season he was planning on missing for retirement anyway, then right a tell all book about refs in the NBA after his career is over. It would be beautiful.

  • There has to be a system to keep these idiots in check. They are in too much control and act like they are the damn police. There is NO consistency to any of their calls from personals to flagrants to technicals. Brandon Bass gets hugged when he is by himself under the hoop and we get the ball side out? It’s almost like they need every call to booth review. If Lebron got fould like Bass did last night it would have been an immediate flagrant. They have too much influence on the flow, consistency, and outcome of every game and it is a big part of the reason the NBA is losing fans.

  • Lex

    Players age, and you don’t win titles or even compete for them when your team is built on three “stars” who are in their mid-thirties, “stars” in quotes as I’m not sure any of the Big Three are consistent game-changers anymore.

  • Thank god the 2011 Mavericks were built on JJ Barea, Tyson Chandler, and an injured Caron Butler..otherwise 38 year old Jason Kidd, Dirk, and Jason Terry would never have been able to compete huh? Ray Allen not a game changer?

  • Joey Crawford stole Game 7 against the Lakers in the 2010 Championship series when he let the Lakers have a 17-4 free throw advantage against the Celtics….in the 4th Quarter. We led by 6 or 8 going in and ended up losing by 4. It’s not just techs. You boys have access to the stats. Check out how we fare in games he refs. I would bet my life, we lose more than we win or the game is lopsided against us on the free throws. It’s not just his temper; he is literally biased against this team. He’s the reincarnation of Earl Strom, who should be burning in Hell right now. (For you young-ins, check out stories of GM Red chasing him into the locker room after he did the same thing to us in the 1987 championship). The NBA needs to recognize this bias!

  • Lex

    Ah, where to start?
    Well, let’s start with the word “consistent.” Note my use of it and your failure to use it.
    Next, let’s move to fact that the Mavs are built around Dirk, who started last season age 31 and is now 32. Ray Allen? Currently 36. KG? Currently 35, but will end the season 36.Tyson Chandler? 29. Totally changed the Mavs team. Prime of his career. Young legs. The Ls bigs didn’t look so big all of a sudden. Speaking of KG and legitimate bigs, when do you suppose might be the next time he grabs 10 rebounds in a single game? February? When your point guard is your best rebounder, you are a team in serious trouble.
    I could go on … and on.
    But, let’s allow the professionals to do the talking:
    Who among us thought there even would be a Year 4 for this core group, let alone a Year 5?
    A starting lineup that includes a 33-year-old, a 34-year-old, a 35-year-old, and a 36-year-old?
    A point guard who commands scant respect as a face-the-basket scoring threat and who is a subpar free throw shooter?
    A bench that does not have a single player whose job description on his income tax form reads “Drop-dead jump shooter”?
    In the abstract, such a team would be given little chance of being so much as a .500 team, let alone a championship contender.
    Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce are still here, but time inevitably marches on, and the last May they were incapable of stopping Miami’s own Big Three when it mattered. Regular-season mastery meant nothing as LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh combined to score 164 of the Heat’s 195 points in Games 4 and 5 of a five-game Miami playoff triumph.
    Danny Ainge is in the same position the late Dave Gavitt was in 20 years ago, and we all know how that turned out. Larry Bird’s back went out first. Then it was Kevin McHale’s lower extremities. And that left Robert Parish, The Chief, to go it alone
    There were flashback nights for each of them, and when those nights coincided, the Celtics were still a force. But they lost to the younger Knicks in 1990, the younger Pistons in 1991, the younger Cavaliers in 1992, and the younger Hornets in 1993 before missing the playoffs in seven of the next eight years.
    The frustrating thing about being an aging player is that some nights it’s still there, and someone can be deluded into thinking nothing has changed. But it is not there with the regularity that made someone a star. Allen and Garnett each have reached that stage. As an example, two years ago, Allen went from setting a record for 3-pointers against the Lakers one night to an 0-fer the very next game. Last May, KG went from a killer 28-point, marauder-on-defense Game 3 against the Heat to Just Another Guy status in the remaining two games.
    –Bob Ryan
    Ah, Mr. Ryan. As usual, he hits it on the head.
    Time marches on and 1986 became 1993.
    2008, I might add, will soon become 2012.

  • That’s a cop out. We lost because we couldn’t rebound the ball. Naturally they’ll get more free throws if they take more shots and they’ll take more shots if they have more possessions. From what I recall of that game the C’s played great defense for 22 seconds, forced a tough shot but gave up the rebound and had to do it again.
    What I do recall is it being a “let em play” type game for three quarters and not until the fourth quarter did the refs start to call the chippy stuff. That’s the BS that gets me and didn’t bode well for the C’s in that game.

  • Are you talking about Game 7 of 2010? You’re missing the point. There were not more possessions. The game was a let ’em play game for 3 quarters. Then 17-4 in the 4th. The same brush fouls that were called for the Lakers were not called for the Celtics. Forget the last 22 seconds. It was the last 12 minutes. Just like Joey changed the momentum of the game in the last 12 minutes of the Knicks game. It’s not a cop out. He doesn’t want our team to win. You can’t see the forest through the trees. I din’t know why but it’s plain as day.

  • What point did I miss? Your first line starts “Joey Crawford stole game 7 against the lakers. . . . “. Your point is loud and clear.
    I understand the free throw discrepancy. My point is that if a team has more shot attempts they’re likely to shoot more free throws just because there are more opportunities to be fouled. This was a problem that whole year. How many leads were blown because that team gave up so many second chance points? Quite a few.
    Where we agree is that the game was called differently in the fourth quarter. That happens and it kills me and in this case it was to the detriment of the Celtics. I just have a hard time believing that there was some mass conspiracy to cheat the Celtics out of the title (and this from someone who has always thought since he started watching basketball in 1987 that the lakers tend to get the calls and the celtics don’t).

  • Well, much of what you said was true during the season but it didn’t really happen here. The Celts went into the 4th leading 57 to 53. They went 7/18 with 2 shooting fouls, so 20 shots. The Lakers went 6//17 with 6 shooying fouls, so 23 attempts. The Lakers outrebounded the Celts 14-11. None of that is significant. But the Lakers actually went 15 for 21 from the line, for 15 of their 30 points. The Celtics were 5-6 from the line for 5 of their 22. So they actually outscored the Lakers 17-15 in the 4th from the floor. Not claiming a ‘vast conspiracy’ just a referee who hates the Celtics and routinely tries to screw them or change their momentum.