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We're all having a grand old time (no pun intended) with the signing of Shaquille O'Neal.  The Big (insert nickname here) fills a big need (pun intended this time) for the Celtics and he does so at the right price. 

And that gives the C's something you don't see anymore in the NBA:  depth at the 5.  When the playoffs roll around, they'll have Kendrick Perkins, Shaq, Jermaine O'Neal and even Semih Erden guest starring as Shelden Williams… not to mention Big Baby and KG as your bigs on the other block. 

Actually, the Celtics have depth on the other end of the spectrum too.  Look at the guards.  The C's have Rondo, Ray, Nate Robinson, Von Wafer and even Mr. NBA-defender-right-now Avery Bradley they can throw out there.  There's plenty of ball handling, speed and sharp shooting out there at the 1 and 2 slots.

But what about our wings?  What about that 3 spot?

Right now, the Celtics have Paul Pierce, Marquis Daniels and Luke Harangody.  And how much can we count on Luke Harangody this season?

So with all the Celtics depth… there is still one man on this team that can be the weak link in the chain:  Marquis Daniels.

Don't get me wrong… I like Marquis.  And when I say "weak link" its not a commentary on him as a player because I like what he can bring on both ends of the floor.  But the fact remains Marquis hasn't played more than 74 games in a season… and that's something he's only done once.  In his 7 year career, he's averaging a smidge over 57 games per season.  

That leaves one big question hanging out there after everything the Celtics have done so far this season:  Are they done yet?  Are the Celtics comfortable going into the season Marquis Daniels as the only traditional backup for Paul Pierce?

I was talking to Chuck about this earlier today and he made a good point.  The C's didn't have one last year either.  After Quis went down, it was a patchwork lineup that ultimately got a few minutes from a title.  Marquis never worked his way back into the rotation… blah blah blah we've all heard that before.

But this is a new year.  And the Celtics face new challenges.  When the C's face the Heat (aside: I just misspelled it "Hate" on my first try… even my subconscious is pissed), they'll face LeBron AND Wade on the perimeter.  Last year, Tony Allen came in off the bench in each series to do an admirable job on those guys.  But he's gone now… and now they're both on the same team. 

Who do we call on if Pierce gets into foul trouble again?  A healthy Marquis Daniels is a great option.  But what if we have an injured Quisy on the bench in civvies?  I have doubts about Harangody contributing much to the C's this year.  And even if he does get some burn, will he be the guy called on to guard LeBron when Pierce gets whistled twice in 8 minutes? 

No, he won't.  Which means the C's will either find some other way to defend that 3 headed Cerberus (good luck with that, Lawrence Frank)… or they're going to have a Mr. X in there that we don't know about yet.

I'm going with the Mr. X option. I don't happen to think the Celtics are done.  I don't think the C's are ready to go into the season with Rasheed Wallace's contract in their back pocket and one glaring weakness still in their roster.  Is that greedy on my part?  Yes, probably.  Every team in the NBA has a weakness.  But the Celtics are sitting on a commodity and they have a pothole in their lawn.

Of course, the follow up question becomes "Ok wise-ass making late 80's rap references… what do you propose we do about it?"  The follow up answer is "I don't know voice in my head… I'm not Danny Ainge.  That's his job." 

What's out there?  That's hard to say.  I know your gut reaction is to say "Rudy Fernandez"… even though he's more of a 2 than a 3… he could still fill the need to some degree.  The problem is he makes about $1.5 million and in this case, someone making relatively little money is a bad thing because Sheed's deal is worth $6.5 million and we have to trade the whole thing or none of it.  I think Rudy is out. 

Larry Hughes' name has been coming up recently.  But the problem is whenever I hear his name I have a stroke.  And while my recovery time from name-related strokes has increased greatly over my sports fandom… this might be the killer. 

I honestly don't know what the answer is, but that might be more of a function of my own lack of intelligence than lack of an answer.  Remember one thing here:  My role in the basketball blogosphere is more "guy in the back of the class that makes people laugh with appropriately time hand-in-armpit-fart-noises" than "guy in the front of the class that does his homework and knows the answers." 

But I do know there's an answer out there.  And I know that there's no way the C's just shake Sheed's hand and say "thanks for the memories" and just take the luxury-tax savings.  This is money in Danny's pocket… and Danny is a sailor on shore-leave.  Someone out there is going to give him what he needs for the money he has in his pocket.

It's just a matter of finding it.

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  • thetitleisours

    Maybe DeShawn Sims has just the right amount of ability to make the switch.
    Von Wafer?

  • KY Celts fan

    Shane Battier? But we’d have to wait til the trade deadline for that possibility.

  • Von’s a little undersized for the 3… but he might have to be the option if the C’s don’t add anyone else

  • piercefropres

    how about rasheed for posey?

  • Luke Walton

    I’d rather have JR Giddens than LH.
    But Danny will find us something better than both.
    Good luck with your recovery from the multiple strokes . . .

  • thetitleisours

    Sims was listed at SF/PF. I agree with you on Hughes.
    34 – DeShawn Sims
    * Birthday: 1/21/88
    * NBA Position: SF/PF
    * Class: Senior
    * Ht: 6-8
    * Wt: 230
    * Hometown: Detroit, MI
    * High School: Detroit Pershing
    * Team Site Profile
    * Statistics

  • thetitleisours

    Sounds good to me

  • MikeinNYC

    Shane Barrier and we win number 18. No doubt.

  • thetitleisours

    I hope VW does have some D in him. A camp question mark for sure

  • I bleed green in L.A.

    Is Erden really making the squad? Bye bye Scal?

  • BigMck

    Is the page break feature broken? This post runs the length of the home page.

  • Luke Walton

    Speaking of Shane B, we acquire him, are we the faves?
    Funny graphic on ESPN. Even after the shaq acquisition, Lakers are older than Cs.

  • nick

    this team is so deep, i think you’ll see Avery Bradley, Rondo,Wafer, Ray, Queez all take turns covering D-Wade..as 4 lebron that will be a complete team effort we are so deep and talented..nothing can stop us, u can’t count on marquis at all, i’de keep an open mind to a trade even if it means losin someone like Nate, or Bradley. I just don’t trust marquis but we are so stacked its hard 2 worry

  • Robby C

    Can Scal play the 3?

  • new greatest line in Redsarmy history.
    Larry Hughes’ name has been coming up recently. But the problem is whenever I hear his name I have a stroke.

  • Eugene

    Sheed for Ariza

  • pierceforpres

    ariza throws up prayers like its his job. we need a 2-way player; get ur facts straight

  • pierceforpres


  • mike o

    Hey Reds Army…Ive had battier on my mind all off season. Is there really a chance to get him? Are the rockets really ready to move him? why would they? He would be the icing on the cake in my opinion and a great option at the 3 who can defend and knock down shots with range on the offensive end. Is this all rumor or is there truth to this possibility?

  • LH.. Lester Hudson? ha

  • We covered Battier a few weeks ago. The Rockets GM came out said even though Houston is over the cap, they are going to go for it this year.

  • Lee in Oregon

    Yeah, forget Battier people, it aint happeming. Houston is trying for a run with Yao, Battier is a big part of that until Yao breaks his foot again and retires.
    Larry Hughes is a guard too, so thank god he wont be the answer. Rudy can play the 3 better than any of those guys. Shit, I’d take gun toting greenbud toking dounghnut eating DWEST before over old man Larry Hughes. Posey’s contract puts him out of the question too.

  • Eugene

    we need ariza mostly for his defense. we have plenty of offensive threats on our bench right now. get your face straight.

  • ILG

    Sheed for Poz-E.

  • mike amentola

    Von Could play 3 depending on the matchup.
    But i would like insurance at the 3…Didnt realize how stacked we are at the 2!!!

  • I bleed green in L.A.

    Until they see they have no chance by the All-Star break, then maybe? I think Sheed’s contract and our 1st rounder next year would be appealing to a team rebuilding. Denver could do it to for JR, since they will be losing their franchise player next year.

  • Shawn-cvd

    Larry He-who-must-not-be-named….

  • Shawn-cvd

    Larry He-who-must-not-be-named…

  • Shawn-cvd

    Battier is worth waiting for. Like I mentioned how the Rockets were creeping into the Luxury tax several weeks ago next up will be the realization they are not elite. their manager could be looking to save $$ as soon as December…
    The impatient choice would be Kapono only if a 1st rounder is extracted from the Sixers as well (for the salary dump). Sharp shooter would make Shaq’s half court offensive sets devastating. Nate/Wafer/Kapono/Baby/Shaq would score in bundles. Kapono is crap on D though…

  • Brian

    You can grab posey or Shane. You can get Posey now.. but if you really want Shane just wait until the Rockets are out of the playoff hunt. We don’t need shane now, just for the playoffs. We can make the 4 seed with out him, maybe the 3 seed. I don’t see Yao being 100%. If they need to make a move now go with Posey. He will be fine.

  • KY Celts fan


  • KY Celts fan

    W-A-S-H-E-D U-P

  • chuck

    Delone West! its happening

  • Scott in N.O.

    I just want to say that this is a very well written article. I really enjoyed it. I love the analogy of Ainge as a sailor on shore-leave with money in his pocket. That hits the nail on the head. Now as far as basketball…
    I can’t see Houston getting rid of a guy like Battier. They think of themselves as contenders with a healthy Yao. Every team covets a guy like Battier and the Rockets are lucky enough to have him. Forget about it C’s fans.
    As far as Posey, I’m from New Orleans and I can tell you that he might be available. People in N.O. don’t understand the value of a Posey. New Orleans signed him as the last piece of a championship puzzle, which is really a perfect role for him. The problem was that the Hornets injury problems destroyed that team and any championship hopes we had. Posey’s intensity and effectiveness increases with the importance of the games he’s involved in. That’s why he played so well in the ’08 post-season. I’d love to see him back with the C’s, but I also can’t help but hope that my hometown Hornets stay healthy this year and show signs of their ’08 season where they were only 2 games behind LA for the no. 1 seed. If that happened, the New Orleans fans would see the real value of a James Posey.
    Finally, I think the best case scenario for the C’s would be for DeShawn Sims to fill the role. He’s got a good build for the 3. He’s a little bulkier than most, and has long arms. He also shows promise offensively. He looked fantastic in Summer League, but a lot of guys look good in Summer League. On top of that, It would be a huge gamble for Danny to assume that Sims will be the guy. I can’t imagine that we would go into the season without somebody more proven in that spot. The thing is, he has youth and athleticism. If he can make it with this team, he might turn himself into something of a cornerstone piece come 2012 when this is an almost entirely new team.

  • Sims took the Euro’s once Shaq was signed.