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Your Morning Dump… Where Doc could be done after this season

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It is quite possible Doc
is nearing the end of his run as coach of the Celtics. Sources have told the Herald that he is leaning
toward leaving the bench after this season, but Rivers insisted
yesterday no final decision has been made.

“Part of it is true,” Rivers said of the speculation. “Every year I
sit down in the middle of the summer and I have a family discussion. We
talk about what we want to do. That’s nothing new, but every year it
gets stronger and stronger. And I think people are making some common
sense reads. I’ve got three seniors next year, two in college and one in
high school. That’s important to me. We’re all family men. We all have

“Every year you’ve got to weigh what’s best for your kids. That’s
just the way it is. But, I don’t get into it now. I don’t talk about it.
I’ve never told anyone one way or the other, and that’s how it’s always

Herald: Home team calls Doc Rivers

It's not the most surprising news to hear… especially after this season.  

Don't underestimate the impact of Doc leaving.  A new coach and a new system could hurt whatever chances this team has next year.

People keep talking about blowing things up if this team doesn't win this year.  I don't see what choice the Celtics have but to bring most of these guys back.  But Danny's a clever guy.  If his coach jets… then he might be taking a hard look at the rest of roster and wonder whether it's worth another year of paying so much money for a team that's learning a whole new system.

On page 2, Vintage Pierce was unstoppable

Photo by Gary Dineen/NBAE via Getty Images

Celtics coach Doc
called Paul
the silver lining in a loss that cemented Boston's faith as
the fourth seed in the Eastern Conference. But Boston would clearly
rather be a fourth seed with Pierce firing on all cylinders than a third
with him struggling to find consistency.

Pierce connected on 12-of-17 shots Tuesday for a team-high 28
points, this after scoring 24 points on 10-of-17 shooting in a win over
Milwaukee Saturday.

"That's two games in a row that he was basically un-guardable," said
Rivers. "Going into the playoffs, that's the best timing we could

Added Pierce: "I'm feeling good. My body is pretty much healed, this
is exactly where I want to be at this point in the season. I feel like
I've gotten into a nice groove offensively and that's something we're
going to need going into the playoffs. I hope to keep it going and do
the things necessary to help this team win."

ESPN Boston: Postgame Notes: Vintage Pierce

Yes, Pierce is in a nice groove… but he's taking a LOT of jump shots. 

But I'm willing to ride this horse for as long as I can.  So let's hope this groove keeps going.  I don't give a damn anymore how the Celtics win it all.  I don't care if he's kicking the ball in from half court.  I'm going to take what I can get… and latch onto it with everything I have and hope its enough to carry this team.

The rest of the links.

Herald: Expect rest for regulars  |  Celtics Bull-dozed  |  Globe: C's lose, get 4th seed Painful slice of experience  |  ESPN Boston: Slipping to the 4  |  4th and goal  |  CSNNE: talking points: Boston at Chicago  |  MWDN: Playoff expectations low for Celtics, Bruins  |  WEEI:  Fast Break: Celtics-Bulls  |  Three pointer: So this is what 4th place looks like

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  • I’m surprised you aren’t a bit more taken aback by the Doc news. I know this season must have been taxing, but I was always under the impression he’d be around for a long time.

  • I might get some heat for this, but I don’t know if I care so much as to whether Doc leaves or not. I mean, he draws up some nice plays, and I’m sure he has a lot to do with things I never get to see, but his game management skills are horrendous. He always plays his starters too long, he never calls a timeout when they’re losing a double-digit lead, and when the game’s over, he sits in front of the media and says “yeah, I shouldn’t be doing those things.”
    Now of course, depending what happens this postseason my view could change radically, but I wouldn’t be too upset if he and the rest of the grumpy old men left town.

  • BigMck

    I’m with you. I’m surprised at this news.

  • Perry

    If it happens I wish Doc all the best. It’s pretty nice to have the luxury of quilting your day job to spend time with your family. Would Jeff Van Gundy be a viable replacement?

  • Mauritz

    Well, he said the exact same thing last season so…

  • Walker

    I agree with you but feel its more of him “losing” the players. Vets or not, most teams only responded to a specific coach for only so long. They need something new or someone new to motivate them. We’ll see this weekend what he can bring out of the team but if he can’t get the players to respond, then he’s got to go.
    True…some of this has to fall on the players too. But who’s more replaceable? Plus, I could see Doc just sucking it up and realizing that’s he is just not getting to them at a championship level anymore.

  • I think JVG likes his new job too much, he’s even come out and said that, but I would absolutely go nuts over that.
    But what about Thibs? A lot of time has been spent on this site talking about how he should be a head coach, so what do people think if he was poised to become our head coach?

  • CFH

    The Thibs things worries me.
    I think there’s a reason that with all the credit/publicity he got for the 2008 team’s stifling defense, he couldn’t get a job offer. Then there was his inability to make even one substitution when Doc was thrown out of the game earlier this year. Then there’s the fact that he never played in the NBA, so he’s starting from behind the 8 ball with a lot of players when so much of the job is getting players’ attention/respect.
    On the other hand, I don’t want to lose him as associate head coach– I don’t deny that he’s fantastic at that. And if Doc goes and he doesn’t get the promotion, he may feel it’s time to leave. Maybe the team might as well take the risk. They presumably won’t be in championship contention next year, anyway.

  • Perry

    I agree with CFH where Thibs is concerned. No matter what happens over the summer the Celts will field a veteran team. So they’ll need a marquee coach.
    Can’t imagine them responding to anything less than a proven commodity. Last thing we want is to repast the same mistake Dumars made in Detroit.
    I don’t think JVG would opt for NJ. That position is Avery Johnson’s to lose.

  • I am surprised in the least. I suspected this was going to happen.

  • KY Celts fan

    Get us Avery Johnson!

  • Lee in Oregon

    Doc knows he’s on the hot seat, they had a terrible year record wise, and are in danger of getting knocked out in the 1st round.
    I may be beating a dead horse but this team is going nowhere fast. It’s not like they’re going to be great next year with this same group. I saw where Doc thinks KG will be “even stronger next year”.
    So we’re gonna turn this into the 90’s where we’re basically waiting for old guys to get younger?…..(That worked so damn well with the real big 3, right?)(On no, wait, they sucked for 15 years).
    I say thanks to Doc. He did a good job once he got some players, and did a great job developing young guys- that’s his best asset as a coach I believe. But it’s time to step away….they dont listen to him anymore.
    I’m not sure Thibs is the best guy to start over with but at least they would play defense hard. Not that it matters cause without some new personel, they’re gonna find themselves back in the lottery soon enough.

  • Perry

    I’m hearing D. Harris is lobbying for his ex coach to join the Nets.
    Anyone think McHale would be a good fit for us?

  • DRJ

    It’s a bad sign that the head coach talks about leaving just before the playoffs start. Means he’s not expecting too many good things to happen. Also means that he probably wasn’t exaggerating when he said earlier this year that this year’s team has been difficult to coach. Seems like the mix of guys just wasn’t right… Nate, Quis, and especially Sheed (in ascending order of difficulty) are not House, Posey and PJ when it comes to chemistry and… dare I mention that long-forgotten term… ubuntu.
    If Doc does go, Thibs for a year is the natural solution. After that year, everything gets blown up anyway. And of COURSE they’d be in contention. Probably even more so than this year.

  • The Truth is Here

    1. Doc is not on the hot seat
    2. I would dearly miss him.
    3. Avery Johnson has too annoying a voice to take seriously.
    4. I agree with what everyone said on Thibs. Great guy, just don’t know if he is ready.
    5. I don’t think Doc is going to go.
    6. Mchale is a bad head coach.

  • Walker

    If McHale is willing to coach sleeveless and raise his arms after every win…then I say sign him NOW

  • Lakerhater (FD)

    Don’t let the door hit you in the ass Doc, and take sheed with you.
    Danny – steal Nate MacMillan whatever it costs.

  • the-FACTS

    Its about freaking time doc, please do us this favor go go go, and take sheed, tony, and scal with you. we will not miss you here. i never thought he was a good coach anyways. he had no control over this team. and he did a horrible coaching job this year. it would be nice if he goes now before the playoffs start. let tom the assistant coach take over for the playoffs. danny its time to pull the plug on doc. its time for a major change with this organization in the offseason. a new coach with some young atheletic players in town. and go strong again for another championship run. so danny ainge its time to step your game up. lets go.

  • Double P Reppin the B

    its pretty clear Doc realizes this team’s window is closed after this year and it’s already started going downhill so why not take a year off be with the family then go back to coaching somewhere else in a year? He will have a job waiting for him no doubt about it probably have his choice of where he wants to coach

  • Joseph

    Doc Rivers is a hack coach. He’s always been a hack coach. He’s lost the respect of his players, which is clearly evident in the Suckdics performance over the past 2 seasons (3 hall of famers and you are the 3rd and 4th seeds in the EAST!!! That’s pretty bad! There’s no reason for you guys NOT have to the best record in the league, but your coach SUCKS!!)
    I would love for the Suckdics to hire McHale. Look at the wonders he did with the T’Wolves (both when he acted as interm coach and GM). I think the Suckdics deserve that type of success. Who knows, maybe McHale can talk Little Boy Ainge into trading Rondo for peanuts like McHale did for KG.

  • KY Celts fan

    Nate’s a good coach. I like him. And for some reason, I remember hearing that his contract with Portland is expiring but he won’t sign an extension. That may have been someone else, but I’m thinking it was him.

  • KY Celts fan

    Never mind. Did some research (typed Nate McMillan into google) and his contract doesn’t expire until the end of next season.

  • Lakerhater (FD)

    Yeah cause Dumbf*ck Kurt Rambis has really shown mchale up since he took over.
    F#cking idiot – go put on a maid costume and entertain kobe.


    I also wouldn’t miss Doc – sounds like he has his kids on his mind and I don’t blame him – The C’s are an intense team and they’ve probably worn each other out.
    Here’s who I wouldn’t want
    McHale (no f’ing way)
    Avery Johnson – nauseating
    Would be keen on
    McMillan and possibly Van Gundy – he’s a defensive specialist which might suit us…
    How bout Eddie Jordan??? He’s available!! (noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!)