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One Reason to Love Stephen Jackson

Chuck - Red's Army October 15, 2009 Uncategorized 34 Comments

Via the Contra Costa Times:

Jackson took his beef with Kobe to a public level. I don’t think
he’s ever been a fan of Kobe. Especially to an official street dude
like Jax, Bryant isn’t going to get the benefit of the doubt. So if he
really called Jax young fella (though they’re the same age), better
believe Jax really didn’t like that. In essence, Jax got dissed by a suburbanite. On top of what he thought was some dirty play.

JACKSON: “I’m not going to bow down. I’m not a fan of Kobe. I’m
not somebody who looks up to him. I’m a grown man myself. So when I go
out there and play the game, I play the game. I feel like I’m just as
good as him. I might not get the publicity or notoriety he gets, but I
feel like I can play with anybody in the NBA any given night.”

Anyone with a grudge against that condescending, arrogant $#%^& is my best friend. For the record, Jackson is not as good as Kobe. He's not even close, but that doesn't mean he's not capable of punching him in the face.

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  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p011570423591970b KobeWearsAPurpleThong

    I am a fan of Steph Jackson’s game-clutch shooter who hits big shots in big moments. I am not a particular fan of some of his behavior. But, as Chuck mentioned, Kobe is the biggest douche of them all. One of the best players ever, but a douche nonetheless. I would even go as far as saying that if we could get Stephen Jackson over here for not too much (Scal, T.A., some $) bring it.

  • Jason

    While I love his attitude towards Kobe, no no no. Jackson’s overrated, a high volume, low efficiency scorer. He’s nothing special and would bring only risk and no reward to this team.
    And let’s not forget he’s a thug and punk. Everyone knows Artest is mentally disturbed, but Jackson was just as present in that brawl throwing haymakers at paying fans. Are you freaking kidding me? Read that all again. Are you freaking kidding me that he, an NBA player, charged into the stands with malicious intent to violently assault and harm spectators? That’s Stephen Jackson. There is nothing else to know about him other than that.

  • haha

    Dude you gotta stop dreaming…giving trash players for Stephen Jackson. All Celtics fan are Delusional and gotta lay off the pipes.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p011570423591970b KobeWearsAPurpleThong

    Yeah, but he’s a “thug and a punk” with great 3 pt. range. lol.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p011570423591970b KobeWearsAPurpleThong

    Speaking of laying pipe, tell your sister I said what up.

  • williamhathaway@gmail.com

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn6iIQvsY2w
    Its really sad that you can no longer hear his voice.
    He picks up a red tee shirt and says something like. I only wear red, I dont ever wear blue you will never see me wearing blue I dont like blue very much.
    Im no expert on gangs but I think that signify something.

  • Jason

    Over 100 NBA players shot a better 3PT percentage than Jackson last year, even though he took more 3s than all but 16 other players (per game). In his career best season, the year before, 67 players still were better than him. He took the 2nd most 3s (again per game) in the whole league that year.
    I told you high volume, low efficiency. He’s just a chucker. There’s nothing special about his game, particularly about his 3-point range. It is certainly not “great.”

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f6a54c2970c ToTheRuins

    Perfect attitude to have…I want to punch every single player in the NBA who doesnt have this attitude when they step out on the court, because at that point you’ve already lost. and id like to laugh in the face of all Kobe fans who get butt hurt for other players having pride and not getting on there knees and praising the almight doucebag Kobe Bryant

  • Matt

    Boston has the biggest douche in the league in KG. Seriously, he bullies opposing role players and passes it off as “intensity”. Douchebag.

  • Joseph

    “condescending, arrogant $#%^&”….
    These are all adjectives that describe KG and Paul Pierce.
    At the end of the day, if you can talk sh*t and back it up more power to you. Kobe can talk sh*t all he wants, because he can back it up with his play. No one can deny that. If Stephen Jackson is going to pout like a little girl, then so be it.
    And for you Suckdic fans that think KG and Pierce aren’t arrogant and the biggest d*ckheads in the league, think again. Those two a**holes are the biggest sh*t talkers in the NBA, that’s why everyone, outside of Suckdic land, hates them and wants them to lose.

  • haha

    LMAo is that all you can come up with…tell your mom ill come over and teach her some lessons about manners..
    Just been OWned lol

  • haha

    Its a waste of time telling them that. They think that by picking on little European people, it shows off the teams intensity.

  • Jason

    Bully how? Has anything KG ever done been physically threatening to another player? Considering this isn’t football and you can’t just go nail someone, actual bullying really doesn’t exist in the NBA. KG D’d up a point guard. He talked trash after dunking on someone. That’s bullying? 10-year-old girls take your lunch money a lot I take it?

  • Matt

    Exactly.

  • Jason

    Man, I’m dumber just having read your ignorant bile. Do the world a favor and just go self-sodomize yourselves. Geez.
    Pierce went head-to-head with your precious rapist and came out with the Finals MVP. Still not over that yet guys, huh? Even after getting a cakewalk to the title, you’re still so insecure. If it’s that bad for you and you need a mood pick-me-up, just go to the tanning salon, get your dye job touched up, treat yourself to a pretty manicure and if that’s still not enough to distract you from the pain that is your life, get yourselves some Vagisil before you start to crack.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0120a5826886970b KWAPT

    Ouch. Hey you really did your homework on the 3 pt stats-I respect that. I didn’t want to get in a debate, I guess my point was just that it’s too bad someone w/the talent of Jack has such a crappy attitude. Granted, percentage-wise he may not shoot the lights out, but he hits them when they count. Vagisil..lmao..It’s only preseason and the trolls are already out-this is going to be a fun season! C’s baby..!

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0120a5826886970b KWAPT

    Funny Joseph, for someone who hates our team, you sure spend alot of time here-more than me even. Closet Celtics fan? Yeah, definitely..lmao. It’s ok, come out of the closet-you aren’t the 1st and won’t be the last.

  • Matt

    And no, 10 year old girls do not take my lunch money.

  • Jason

    I respect your contributions around here, too, but again I have to call BS. You can’t make those claims without backing them up.
    In 07-08, Jackson’s effective FG percentage (eFG%) was .481. It rose to a fantastic .658 in “clutch” situations.
    In 08-09, though, his eFG% was .466, basically the same as the previous year. In the clutch, though, it was a terrible .381. Not so clutch.
    In 06-07, he was .503 and .411, respectively. Far from clutch.
    I know this goes against MANY people’s view, but clutch doesn’t exist no matter how much people want it to. Good players are good players in all quarters. Clutch moments are remembered, the failures forgotten. Selective memory and story telling leads to some people getting more credit for being clutch than others. That’s really all there is to it.
    My claim stands: Jackson is a chucker with no special quality about him. So one year he had a streak of balls going in. Sheer probability dictates that will happen from time to time. He has no ability to elevate his game as he chooses. In fact, no one does. If they could just play better when they want, why don’t they play better all the time? No one ever asks that question. The answer is because no one has that ability. And if they played better in one part of game than an other simply by choice, that only means they were slacking for the majority of the game, which deserves more scorn than clutch deserves praise.

  • Lee in Oregon

    Jax is a nice player but his clain to fame will ALWAYS be “the guy who went bezerk in Auburn Hills” who had nothing to do with the situation. PERIOD
    This site is getting to where I cant read any of the comments cause it’s a bunch of LA fans jerking off all over eachother.

  • Jason

    He is a decent player, defense included, but my point is he’s nothing special, not in the clutch, not from 3, no place, no time. His rep far outstrips his actual ability and productivity. So what is there to fall over him about? Nothing. Then comes all the MAJOR baggage. He’s not even worth thinking about.
    I’m also with you on the site. I’m feeling the founding fathers failed in not having an IQ qualifier in the First Amendment. These trolls are really testing the merits of freedom of speech.
    On the one hand, I would say let anyone post who wants to as apparently the policy is. On the other, like you said it’s just mental diarrhea coming from these assclowns that just distracts from the discussions trying to be had. Who needs it?
    If this was a brick and mortar business and some ignorant group were creating graffiti and noise pollution that affected your operation only in negative ways, wouldn’t you find someway to minimize their impact? Ban them if possible? What’s the difference here?
    You admin guys have probably resisted the urge to ban these fools for a number of commendable reasons, but haven’t they forced the issue themselves by now, abused the privilege enough to show they aren’t here to add anything, only to vomit on all discussions?

  • Matt

    I don’t come here to vomit on discussions. I come here for interesting and intelligent basketball analysis. I’m not being sarcastic either, that’s why I come here.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0120a5826886970b KWAPT

    Lee-don’t let that stuff bother you. The trolls come and go. If you think it’s bad now, wait until we beat them in the Finals this year..then they’ll really be bitching.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0120a5826886970b KWAPT

    Yeah, we can agree to disagree. I’m sure there are players you consider clutch that I don’t too. You didn’t have go all StatGeek on me though..lol. eFg..abcd..huh?? And if you read my posts, I never said anything about his stats my man. I simply said he hits big shots at big moments.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0120a5826886970b KWAPT

    That’s cool. But are you a C’s fan? Not that non-C’s fans aren’t welcome, but I don’t go to Lakers blogs and call their players names-that’s just being a troll and being ignorant…Feel me?

  • Jason

    But you claim that as if it’s a given and I’m saying you have to back up claims like that.
    In the last three years, he had one year in which he wasn’t awful in the clutch. Yes, I’ve seen him hit a couple, too, but if he takes 100, a few are going to go in. It doesn’t make him clutch or big by any means. It’s just a combination of he law of average and selective memory. As a whole, he’s no big late game player. That’s all I was trying to dispel. And as I said, clutch doesn’t exist, so my list of clutch players is non-existent. Or, actually my list of good players in the clutch would mostly just be a list of good players period, no qualifiers. As for chokers, that’s another issue all together.
    And eFG is just a more advanced form of the blunt tool that is shooting percentage.

  • Jason

    I call BS again. You type inflammatory words such as “douche”, “bully” and “douchebag” and do so with nothing to back those “claims” and you consider that “interesting and intelligent basketball analysis?”
    So you’re not intentionally being a tool, you’re simply retarded. Got it.

  • Matt

    I apologize if I offended anybody. No I’m not retarded.. thanks. I mean, attack me with inflammatory words.. for using inflammatory words. No big deal to me, just saying.
    No, I don’t consider what I said “interesting and intelligent basketball analysis”. That’s what I USUALLY come here for. But I also like to come here for the retarded and tool comments, obviously..
    To KWAPT:
    Honestly, I’m not a die hard C’s fan. I’m a basketball fan though, and like to visit different team sites to get different perspective’s on the league. I like to stay informed by visiting different blogs and seeing what fans are writing.

  • Matt

    I’ve got an article you guys will like.
    http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2009-10-10/nba-all-overrated-team/
    Kobe’s on it.

  • Jason

    They won’t have the nerve. They are only here now because their chests are puffed and the tails are in the air now only because they just won. (Btw, they means the players and coaches. These morons haven’t won anything.) And that alone apparently isn’t enough for them, probably because it feels empty, as it should, having not beaten a healthy Rockets or Celtics. Once they’re beaten down again properly, they won’t be showing up crowing like they are now.

  • Jason

    Read my first four comments again. They are all basketball related analysis and they are informed with facts to back up any claims.
    Now read your very first comment. Inflammatory and ignorant.
    Now read my response to that. I asked you to explain your claims (which you still have yet to do).
    Your second comment isn’t very informative either and is inflammatory.
    Then you claim to be here for “interesting and intelligent basketball analysis.” You see how your actions aren’t on the same continent as your words?
    So, at that point, I’m not able to take you to task for your overwhelmingly interesting and intelligent “contribution” to our discussion? I called you a tool and retarded, but at least I backed my claims up. I mean I didn’t have to do much. Look at your body of work, what you’ve added to all of our lives. It speaks for itself. I mean your comments were meant to illicit responses, right? You got exactly what you wanted, right? So what are you so defensive about all of a sudden? Got more than you could handle and you’re not so cocky anymore?
    I’m a C’s fan of course, but people are people, meaning I wouldn’t back KG just because he’s a Celtic. If the guy was a tool, I’m not such a low person I would defend him just because he’s on my team, like Laker fans do with Kobe.
    KG’s no different now than he was in Minny, just the story has changed. Instead of being a lovable warrior in a bad situation, he’s an alpha dog on a championship team. People love building up the underdog, then love to rip him down once he reaches the top. You know that’s how stories work in this country, not that I’m condoning that. The Caulderon move was a little childish, but bully? Douche? Was it really that egregious? Really? KG does NOTHING but compete at an elite level. Is that not enough for people? Apparently not. He has to be a choir boy. Then again, if he was, then people would start calling him out for being soft and not a leader. See, you can’t win. So don’t fall into the media storyline traps.
    I have very negative opinions on plenty of players (hell, read what I just wrote about Jackson), but I express them here. I don’t go to Laker sites to call Kobe a rapist. I don’t go to Warriors sites and call Jackson a thug. I don’t go to Orlando sites to call Lewis “Rashoid.” I don’t go to Bulls sites and brag how Rondo averaged a triple-double on their ROY. What’s the point?
    Teenagers display that kind of immature behavior when facing rival high schools. I mean are you still in high school or have you mature at least a little since then?
    You can’t be ignorant without being called on it. You can’t say you are one way and then act the opposite without being called on it. You haven’t added anything substantial. You’ve made ignorant, inflammatory comments while claiming to be here for intelligent analysis. So I stand by my original statements. You’re either intentionally trying to be a tool or just too plain stupid to know your own hypocrisy.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0120a5826886970b KWAPT

    Cool Matt-that’s why I ask and tried not to jump to assumptions. But I’m sure you have to understand when you come to a Celtics site and bash our players, people are going to react and come at you. Pretty much the same as I mentioned earlier that if I went to a Lakers site and talked trash about the Lakers, I would just be asking for trouble and shouldn’t be surprised if people attacked me. But that’s why I like this site-people aren’t banned (unless they get really ignorant and disrespectful) for speaking their mind…

  • Matt

    Okay Jason. Won’t happen again.
    Thanks KWAPT. I understand what you’re saying. Sorry for looking like a tool with that one post, I swear I’m not.

  • Matt

    But Jason, I’d just like to add one more thing.
    I’m not claiming what I said about KG was intelligent basketball analysis. It’s not. Neither is saying Kobe is a rapist and d-bag for that matter. I said I come here for intelligent basketball analysis; from the blog and its readers. I hardly ever post, and I’m certain you can see why. lol