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Rumor: Rondo, Scal for Grizzlies’ Conley, Gay

Chuck - Red's Army June 24, 2009 Uncategorized 19 Comments

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The latest Rondo trade rumor comes via Marc Spears:

While there has been talk around the NBA from several scouts that the
Celtics have been shopping guard Rajon Rondo, he isn't expected to be
dealt. While unlikely, one Eastern Conference executive said the latest
trade rumor included Rondo and forward Brian Scalabrine going to
Memphis for guard Mike Conley and swingman Rudy Gay. On the flip side,
one NBA GM said that he asked Celtics president Danny Ainge about Rondo
and Ainge said he didn't want to trade him.

No way. No, no, no and no. That's my initial reaction to this rumored deal.

But for the sake of discussion, let's examine Mike Conley and Rudy Gay:

  • Conley – 30 mpg, 10 ppg, 44% FG, 40% 3FG, 4 apg, 3 rpg
  • Gay – 37 mpg, 18 ppg, 45% FG, 35% 3FG, 5 rpg

Conley disappointed in his rookie year, but started to show improvement last season. He's more of a shooter than play-maker type point guard. Gay is an explosive player (click here for dunk highlite reel) who will likely seek a giant contract extension. While Gay has tremendous potential, part of me thinks "Tracy McGrady."

Meanwhile, ESPN's Chad Ford has some new info on Rondo's attitude:

I'm more persuaded by what several league sources told me about Doc Rivers' relationship with Rondo. They say Rivers has told them that Rondo is
"impossible to coach" and "stubborn." The worry is that if the Celtics
give him a big contract extension next year, he'll be even more
unmanageable in the future. So the Celtics are trying to trade him now,
while his trade value is high, to avoid a very difficult decision a
year from now.

The "stubborn" label is nothing new, but "impossible to coach" definitely scares me. Ford throws out some hypothetical trades, one involving the Spurs and Tony Parker.

Here are some other tidbits, courtesy of Frank Dell'Apa:

Kevin Garnett’s recovery from knee surgery will be monitored by Celtic
trainers Bryan Doo and Ed Lacerte in Malibu, Calif., Ainge said . . .
The Celtics plan to make a qualifying offer to forward Glen Davis by
Tuesday’s deadline, giving them the right to match offers he receives
as a restricted free agent. Guard Eddie House is still considering
opting out of the second year of his contract . . . Ainge did not have
a progress report on Leon Powe’s knee rehabilitation.

Other links: Herald – KG on the Mend | Ainge Blasts Rondo Rumors | Cavs Targeting Villanueva | Phil Jackson Unsure About Coaching Future |

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  • AMP

    Hmpf…well, this Memphis deal is a little more believable. How can Rondo be impossible to coach??? Look at his improvement! I doubt it is self-will alone…

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0115709edd57970b G4L

    I’m sick of these Rondo Rumors.. Only because if his name keeps coming up so much some of the stuff must be true.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f6a54c2970c ToTheRuins

    These rondo rumours are utter bullshit…im sick of this kids character being in question most of all
    secondly, this trade is garbage, mike conley? lmao
    rudy gay? what use do we have for this kid? none
    no thanks
    Its becoming painfully evident rondos gone, so at this rate package him with ray and get something better then 2 scrubs

  • Sal

    My father just called me with news of this rumor. “Conley and Gay.” My response? “And…? No? That’s it?” You can’t give up the one player in the trade who could be (arguably has been) a difference maker. If it were Conley/Gay/The #2 Pick for Rondo/Scal/Future First-Rounder, you’d have my attention.

  • Danno

    I would bet everything on the fact that these aren’t rumors, and Rondo really is kind of a jerk.
    Just because someone has great talent, and interviews for the TV cameras well doesn’t mean they are a “good kid”. There are just too many stories about him being a smug prick going around for it not to be at least a little true.
    and that last interview he did on Dennis & NaziAsshole’s show demonstrates exactly what all these rumors are saying. He’s smug and self aggrandizing.
    Trade him. His offensive numbers were better in the playoffs, but he’s just not consistent enough, and you can tell it’s his attitude that drives his playing.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f6a54c2970c ToTheRuins

    Being a smug prick doesnt make you a bad kid….theres much worse characters in the NBA…rondo doesnt even crack the top 100 biggest aholes in the NBA
    Paul Pierce at 23? now thats immature.
    how isnt he a good kid? lol, because he wants a max contract? because….. because why?
    ignorant talk

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f6a54c2970c ToTheRuins

    rondo in olando series
    Game 1: 14 pts/8assists/10rebounds
    Game 2: 15 pts/18 assists/11 rebounds
    Game 3: 15 pts/6 assists/5 rebounds
    Game 4: 21 pts/3 assists/14 rebounds
    Game 5: 6 pts/5 asts/9 rebounds
    game 6: 19 pts/6 assists/16 rebounds!
    Game 7: 10/10/6
    just curious why people think the kid didnt show up in that series

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0115704b7be5970b bigpartymaker

    I find it hard to believe that anybody on a team with Garnett and Pierce could get away with being “uncoachable”

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p011570423591970b KobeWearsAPurpleThong

    Where there’s smoke…so there has to be some truth to it. Rondo has always come across as a bit smug-to what extent, only the C’s and their staff know. Man, how about Scal for Gay straight up..lol. Would love to get Rudy Gay in Green..oooh that would be nice. But not for Rondo-he is too valuable to this team. There will be lots to talk about tonight….

  • Danno

    because his attitude problems drive his in-game decision making. He clearly has nights where he’s just not there because he’s got a mad-on. And often – those nights end with an “L”.
    We shouldn’t be losing games because our Point guard with no jump shot can’t take constructive criticism and gets into arguments with the coach and teammates.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f6a54c2970c ToTheRuins

    what attitude problems?
    when has he ever gotten in an game disagreement with doc or his teammates?
    lmao
    KG- Biggest jerk in NBA
    Pierce- still immature
    Allen- Very cocky and full of himself
    lets put them on the trading block, quickkk

  • Danno

    So I guess Doc’s and Danny’s comments about Rondo’s attitude issues were lies?
    Seriously – you’re kind of an idiot; and your uninformed, poorly constructed, homeresque comments here make this site far less enjoyable.
    Can’t you just go to Celticsblog or some other boring, halfwit blog and leave the intelligent, adult conversations to those of us with some semblance of critical thinking?

  • FSantos33

    At this rate we might as well kiss Rondo good bye. My instincts tell me Rondo might be packaged on Draft Day. The reports about Rondo’s character and attitude surely aren’t going to help Ainge’s. Like the other soldiers have said on this post “There must be some truth to all this” madness.
    I think so and I don’t really know.. Rondo must have been a Douche for a while now or else Ainge wouldn’t try to shop him like crazy the last four weeks. If we can get a good deal and make our team better than go for it but if a trade doesn’t work out and Rondo might return very unhappy and all this shit might just backfire. To be continued……..

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f6a54c2970c ToTheRuins

    docs comments from rondos rookie season?
    Im the homer?, youre the one who gets defensive when I state facts
    KG is the biggerest jerk in the NBA, Pierce as immature a 30 yr old in the NBA, and Ray Allen is full of himself…
    so of these are rondos mentors…what the hell is the suprise here?
    Let me know when rondo has defied or gotten into arguments during a game, thanx

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f6a54c2970c ToTheRuins

    also before we bash rondos supposed bad attitude…what the hell do we know about conley and gays attitude? they dont have an attitude about winning, they both have poor basketball IQS, who knows what these guys are like? people arent obsessivly monitoring them and fabricating irrelevant stories to make them seem worse then they are.
    from on the court standpoint, rondo is as mature as anyone in the league, especiall considering his age…get over it

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f5ebb21970c JD

    What doesn’t make sense is Danny and Doc talking all this shit about Rondo’s poor attitude. That isn’t exactly going to give him more value in a trade, and it might even scare teams away. I think Danny’s just trying to scare Rondo into being less of a douche.

  • http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2009/05/should_rajon_rondo_be_suspende.html Nickels

    I’ve studied a lot of film on the grizzlies and I can tell you 2 things:
    1.)Conley is quick….If Rondo is the quickest in the L, Conley is 1B. He has a pretty good shot (He’s a lefty!), he’s not strictly a shooter- the games I’ve watched it was pretty close to a 50/50 split with regards to play making/shooting. He makes some questionable decisions sometimes (as expected from a 21-year-old would be college junior), but he has the tools.
    2.)Gay’s a huge upgrade over Scals in terms of athleticism and he gives the C’s some much needed length (6’9 with a 7’2″ wingspan); but in this scenario, would he be the 6th man? I don’t know if he’d go for that. Unless they move Ray this offseason as well for a big and have a Perk/KG/Gay/Pierce/Conley starting 5?
    I can see how the Grizzlies might want to move Gay (Not enough shots to go around for both he and Mayo), and there’s been rumors of them moving Conley forever, so this is believable on that end.
    People were saying yesterday they’d do the Rondo/Ray for Rip/Prince/Stuckey. Well, statistically speaking: Gay = Prince, and Conley = Stuckey. And the C’s get a lot younger (Gay’s 22, Conley’s 21).

  • Anon

    On paper the trade might seem even, or can be looked at as an even better deal for the Celtics. The main difference is….Rondo already has A LOT of experience in the playoffs and has shown himself to be a distinguished player you can count on. Gay and Conley…we don’t know how they’ll turn out since they started on a losing team and are used to losing. Gay is used to being the 1st or 2nd option on the grizz, how would he turn out if he were to be the 6th man?

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