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Draft day is Ainge Day

RedsArmyAdmin June 7, 2009 Uncategorized 41 Comments

Danny The NBA draft is 18 days away, and the Celtics have what amounts to a throw-away pick at #58 overall (Minnesota has our #1 pick via the Garnett trade)… but don't expect Danny Ainge to do absolutely nothing.  As was noted in the Herald today, NBA Draft day is essentially Danny Ainge day.  Take a look at the picks Danny has made in his time with Boston:

2003: 1st round – Kendrick Perkins (via trade w/Memphis)
2nd round – Brandon Hunter

2004: 1st round – Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen
2nd round – Justin Reed

2005: 1st round – Gerald Green
2nd round – Ryan Gomes

2006: 1st round: Rajon Rondo (via trade w/Phoenix)
2nd round: Leon Powe (via trade w/Denver)

2007: 1st round: Jeff Green (sent to SEA in Ray Allen trade)
2nd round: Gabe Pruitt, Glen Davis (via SEA in Ray Allen trade)   

2008: 1st round: JR Giddens
2nd round: Bill Walker (via trade w/WAS), Semih Erden

16 selections… 13 if you toss out last year's class because it's too early to tell what they will become.   2 guys (Reed and Hunter) haven't done a thing.  1 (Gabe Pruitt) is on the fence. 

Of the remaining 10, Perk, Rondo, Powe and Davis have all been major contributors to the C's.  The Jeff Green pick became Ray Allen.  Al Jefferson is an All Star and Delonte West and Ryan Gomes are major contributors on their teams.  Tony Allen was showing a ton of potential before his dumb ACL injury… and Gerald Green is still bouncing around.

Get the point?  Danny tears it up on draft day.  He's picked up key pieces either by making the pick or trading for a player he's targeted.  That says something.  He's not just an evaluator of talent… he's pretty good at getting the player he wants even if that player isn't around. 

So when pick #58 comes rolling along, don't expect Danny to just pick someone and waive him because he needs the roster spot like he's been saying.  Expect Danny to come up with a different plan.

I expect Danny to go overseas and draft someone he can tuck away for a couple of years until a spot opens up on the C's.  Some guy with promise that can come in and play a reserve roll in 2011.  Or maybe he tries to package that pick into some kind of trade for a role player (not that I can imagine someone trading FOR the 3rd from last pick in the draft).

The bottom line is, if anyone can find a way to make the #58 pick productive, it's Danny Ainge.  This one will be a bit more challenging than most… so it will be interesting to see if he can do it.  But I wouldn't be surprised if he does.

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  • Kris Klack

    Ainge is a good but not great drafter. He has an eye for “diamond in the rough” type players, but failed when he had the opportunity to draft franchise-type players in the lottery.
    To wit – he overvalued Marcus Banks (projected to go late 1st round), passing on David West and Josh Howard (among others, but those two guys were top prospects from established college programs who are now all-stars).
    Most egregiously, he aggressively avoided drafting Brandon Roy, shipping out the pick for Sebastian Telfair, and settling to pick up Rondo for cash. In hindsight, the move worked out because of the KG trade, but that wasn’t in the cards at the time. Rondo is fine and all, but Brandon Roy is an all-NBA type talent. Who would you rather build the team around in a post-big-three environment?
    Ainge is an up-and-down GM, his drafts are rarely disasters, but he hits a lot of doubles, rarely home runs. The team needs an imaginative/daring trade or a blank check in the FA market to extend our championship window, not more of Danny sifting through the 2nd round scrap heap for yet another 10th man.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/redsarmy Red’s Army

    Brandon Roy is a special talent… but I don’t think we can look at it now and say “wow, he blew it by taking Rondo.” I think you can do well by building around Rondo.

  • Uncle Leo

    He needs to grab julian wright from New Orleans with the quickness.

  • Mike Munger-Return to the Rafters

    I think he’s done a better than average job with who he drafted. 4 guys who were MAJOR contributors to a title in Rondo, Perk, BBD, and Leon makes what he’s done amazing.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f5d5008970c Jester00

    Guys and gals top 5 best and worst draft since 1989. here what i got what your thoughts???
    best
    1. PP
    2. Employee #8
    3. Big AL
    4. Powe
    5. Dino Radja
    Worst
    1. Micheal Smith
    2. Kedrick Brown
    3. Acie Earl
    4. Jerome Moiso
    5. Eric Montross/Greald Green

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p011570423591970b KobeWearsAPurpleThong

    Alot of good points-let’s hope we do something to help ourselves. I just hope this offseason we don’t settle for “KG is back next year”..and then Ainge makes no big moves. Jester, I agree with your list. Jerome Moiso..UGH!! Hadn’t heard that name in a while.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p011570423591970b KobeWearsAPurpleThong

    I would take Gerald Green out of number 5 spot and replace with Kris Clack..

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f5d5008970c Jester00

    Great game 2 so far love me some overtime

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f6a54c2970c ToTheRuins

    can we take down all the anti laker propaganda already? it aint working. Poor courtney misses the layup to win the game in regulation. Hedo and Lewis playing great…and…
    Dwight Howard sucks….sorry but im shocked the magic got as far as they did with dumbo dwight, the guy has no post moves, and hes lucky the cleveland frontline was literally on there last legs and KG was injured…this guy ugh, hes frustrating to watch

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f735d93970c CeltsFanatic

    You can even go ahead and say Danny lucked out by having a crappy pick in a crappy draft– no harm done. Things worked out for Danny again.
    Well, I guess you can call it lucky or you can just chalk it up as good foresight.
    http://loscy.wordpress.com

  • SuperSoftMan

    Again I’d like to remind you how awesome it is of you guys to root against the Lakers the way you do. You have been a curse on the Celtics and every team you have rooted for. Thanks!

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f6a54c2970c ToTheRuins

    and lol @ stan van gundy destroying his entire PG rotation….overplaying jameer took anthony johnson out of the rotation, and took rafer alstons rhythm, and jameer isnt ready to play…now what?
    and f u mickael pietrus…this loser is flat out scared of kobe bryant and choking in this series..also this series is not kobe…lebron played much better against the magic…its the lakers defense and rebounding…and goddamn lamar odom

  • SuperSoftMan

    you’re the only one on here that deserves respect BTW

  • Aingelives

    Love the block on Kobe and him getting burned on the alley-oop play. Too bad Lee blew it.

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7

    Let me see what I see and read on MY BLOG (the lakernation blog) hmmm, nothing good! Well suckdicks fans this one is something new….LAKERS UP 2-0 against Orl. Post this up tomorrow redsarmy biatch!!!!!

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7

    Let me see what I see and read on MY BLOG (the lakernation blog) hmmm, nothing good! Well suckdicks fans this one is something new….LAKERS UP 2-0 against Orl. Post this up tomorrow redsarmy biatch!!!!!

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7

    WOW, well said SuperSoftMan!!!! WELL SAID!!! Let me see how can I put it better…”Again I’d like to remind you how awesome it is of you guys to root against the Lakers the way you do. You have been a curse on the Celtics and every team you have rooted for”. Thanks!
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant…

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7

    WOW, well said SuperSoftMan!!!! WELL SAID!!! Let me see how can I put it better…”Again I’d like to remind you how awesome it is of you guys to root against the Lakers the way you do. You have been a curse on the Celtics and every team you have rooted for”. Thanks!
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant…

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f6a54c2970c ToTheRuins

    I would be livid if i were a magic fan/player/coach
    they should have and had to win tonights game..this series is ovaaaaaaa

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7

    WOW, well said and that’s what I’ve been saying for the last few months now!!! I’m glad someone other than a laker fan feels the same way. Let me highlight this one for you stupid redneck redsarmy,
    “can we take down all the anti laker propaganda already? it aint working”?
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7

    WOW, well said and that’s what I’ve been saying for the last few months now!!! I’m glad someone other than a laker fan feels the same way. Let me highlight this one for you stupid redneck redsarmy,
    “can we take down all the anti laker propaganda already? it aint working”?
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7

    Many props to you ToTheRuins, many props to you!
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7

    Many props to you ToTheRuins, many props to you!
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant

  • I bleed green in L.A.

    Just when I had some hope for you.
    Damn Faker Fan.

  • I bleed green in L.A.

    Do you see this? You are getting “props” from the enemy. Figure it out Ruins, go post on a Flaker site and get out of here.

  • SuperSoftMan

    a special shout out goes out to I bleed green in L.A. Your attitude is just a symptom of the curse that rooting against the Lakers. Thank you for perpetuating this ridiculous tactic cause we LOVE IT! Keep up the good work. You’re awesome!

  • IShitGreen247

    I bleed green in L.A. you are totally helping the enemy. Just admit to being an undercover Faker fan. You should get the hell out of here. Tomorrows first dump is gonna have your name written all over it.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f5cd064970c Count Istvan

    If I pay for it will you and your girl friend bleeds go get a room an let the adults talk? I’ll even have some Kobe pics blown up to get you guys in the mood.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0115704263ce970b Papa Irish

    Ron Mercer anyone?
    and not exactly the pick of chauncey but deciding to trade him 20 games into the season, and trading joe johnson for nothing hurt too; i know those aren’t bad picks but they ended up giving us absolutely nothing
    and i think you have to throw in gomes, powe, or big baby, considering where they were taken and what they have done in terms of production

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0115704263ce970b Papa Irish

    I love the laker trolls on here, enjoy this year fellas because next year when the celtics are back at full strength its back to being our bitches
    face it boys the lakers wouldnt have gotten past the rockets without yao going down, we all saw what aaron brooks did to your points, where ever fisher is right now he thanking god he doesn’t have to go up against rondo; but then again everyone in LA including the lakers fans are thanking there lucky stars they don’t have to go through the champs to win a title

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7..THXS2REDSARMY

    Hey BiatchArmy dude, can you post this article on our (theLakerNation) blog…
    Michael Wilbon: “Lakers…are the most important basketball franchise in the world” Here’s the link:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/06/AR2009060602060.html?hpid=artslot
    and this one “2011 NBA All Star Game Coming to Staples Center” and here the link for this one:
    http://stevemasonsmog.typepad.com/john_irelands_plog_710_es/2009/06/2011-nba-all-star-game-coming-to-staples-center.html
    And last but not least, this one: “Howard still thinks about when Kobe facialized him as a rookie”
    and here the link for this one:
    http://lakers.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/05/howard-sees-kobe-in-his-nightmares/18349/
    Thank you dude!
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7..THXS2REDSARMY

    Hey BiatchArmy dude, can you post this article on our (theLakerNation) blog…
    Michael Wilbon: “Lakers…are the most important basketball franchise in the world” Here’s the link:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/06/AR2009060602060.html?hpid=artslot
    and this one “2011 NBA All Star Game Coming to Staples Center” and here the link for this one:
    http://stevemasonsmog.typepad.com/john_irelands_plog_710_es/2009/06/2011-nba-all-star-game-coming-to-staples-center.html
    And last but not least, this one: “Howard still thinks about when Kobe facialized him as a rookie”
    and here the link for this one:
    http://lakers.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/05/howard-sees-kobe-in-his-nightmares/18349/
    Thank you dude!
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0115704263ce970b Papa Irish

    The only flaw in wilbons argument is that boston cares about the celtics, even if they are the city’s “second” favorite team then all of LA cares about the lakers
    its a lazy article written by wilbon who probably was on his way out the door to do PTI and wanted something he could write fast and catch attention, its poor journalism at its finest

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7THXSTOREDSARMY

    Your right Blah_ba”ISH”…we are LUCKY and you and all this shitty site are our LUCK, the posts are really giving us LUCK. I luv it! and Blah Blah Blah regarding houston the Jazz, and the McNuggets…Blah BLah Blah..whatever! one thing WE the LAKERNATION know is that the LAKERS HAVE NEVER BEEN A ONE HIT WONDER and never will be! We started off the 2000 decade with “CHAMPIONSHIPS” and have never gone a a 20+ year (s) drough and the LAKERS have NEVER had to trade almost all there team to bend over to the Devil for “1” bitchy ship….”1″…..and the suckdicks aka celtics are the lucky ones cause the L8KERS were the ones that were going to drop them like the flies they are, instead it was ORL who the suckdicks choked on…see ya in 20+ years cause the Cavs & Orl are coming back and if anything, if Cavs get Shaq that’s it for garbage man garnett, Drama Queen Paul Pierce, and Ugly Ass R. Allen….see ya after 20 yrs when the SuckDicks organization bend down for the devil again??? but this time the Lucky stars might NOT be with this organization cause Kevin McHale might not be the prez Of Opert. or GM anymore??? What are ya going to do???Maybe the lucky stars might put Drama Queen Pierce as a prez of Op or GM or a team????
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7THXSTOREDSARMY

    Your right Blah_ba”ISH”…we are LUCKY and you and all this shitty site are our LUCK, the posts are really giving us LUCK. I luv it! and Blah Blah Blah regarding houston the Jazz, and the McNuggets…Blah BLah Blah..whatever! one thing WE the LAKERNATION know is that the LAKERS HAVE NEVER BEEN A ONE HIT WONDER and never will be! We started off the 2000 decade with “CHAMPIONSHIPS” and have never gone a a 20+ year (s) drough and the LAKERS have NEVER had to trade almost all there team to bend over to the Devil for “1” bitchy ship….”1″…..and the suckdicks aka celtics are the lucky ones cause the L8KERS were the ones that were going to drop them like the flies they are, instead it was ORL who the suckdicks choked on…see ya in 20+ years cause the Cavs & Orl are coming back and if anything, if Cavs get Shaq that’s it for garbage man garnett, Drama Queen Paul Pierce, and Ugly Ass R. Allen….see ya after 20 yrs when the SuckDicks organization bend down for the devil again??? but this time the Lucky stars might NOT be with this organization cause Kevin McHale might not be the prez Of Opert. or GM anymore??? What are ya going to do???Maybe the lucky stars might put Drama Queen Pierce as a prez of Op or GM or a team????
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7THXS2REDSARMY

    Your right Blah_ba”ISH”…we are LUCKY and you and all this shitty site are our LUCK, the posts are really giving us LUCK. I luv it! and Blah Blah Blah regarding houston the Jazz, and the McNuggets…Blah BLah Blah..whatever! one thing WE the LAKERNATION know is that the LAKERS HAVE NEVER BEEN A ONE HIT WONDER and never will be! We started off the 2000 decade with “CHAMPIONSHIPS” and have never gone a a 20+ year (s) drough and the LAKERS have NEVER had to trade almost all there team to bend over to the Devil for “1” bitchy ship….”1″…..and the suckdicks aka celtics are the lucky ones cause the L8KERS were the ones that were going to drop them like the flies they are, instead it was ORL who the suckdicks choked on…see ya in 20+ years cause the Cavs & Orl are coming back and if anything, if Cavs get Shaq that’s it for garbage man garnett, Drama Queen Paul Pierce, and Ugly Ass R. Allen….see ya after 20 yrs when the SuckDicks organization bend down for the devil again??? but this time the Lucky stars might NOT be with this organization cause Kevin McHale might not be the prez Of Opert. or GM anymore??? What are ya going to do???Maybe the lucky stars might put Drama Queen Pierce as a prez of Op or GM or a team????
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant

  • bostonBleedsPURPLE&GOLD24/7THXS2REDSARMY

    Your right Blah_ba”ISH”…we are LUCKY and you and all this shitty site are our LUCK, the posts are really giving us LUCK. I luv it! and Blah Blah Blah regarding houston the Jazz, and the McNuggets…Blah BLah Blah..whatever! one thing WE the LAKERNATION know is that the LAKERS HAVE NEVER BEEN A ONE HIT WONDER and never will be! We started off the 2000 decade with “CHAMPIONSHIPS” and have never gone a a 20+ year (s) drough and the LAKERS have NEVER had to trade almost all there team to bend over to the Devil for “1” bitchy ship….”1″…..and the suckdicks aka celtics are the lucky ones cause the L8KERS were the ones that were going to drop them like the flies they are, instead it was ORL who the suckdicks choked on…see ya in 20+ years cause the Cavs & Orl are coming back and if anything, if Cavs get Shaq that’s it for garbage man garnett, Drama Queen Paul Pierce, and Ugly Ass R. Allen….see ya after 20 yrs when the SuckDicks organization bend down for the devil again??? but this time the Lucky stars might NOT be with this organization cause Kevin McHale might not be the prez Of Opert. or GM anymore??? What are ya going to do???Maybe the lucky stars might put Drama Queen Pierce as a prez of Op or GM or a team????
    Sincerly,
    “Love me or hate me, it’s one or the other. Always has been. Hate my game, my swagger. Hate my fadeaway, my hunger. Hate that I’m a veteran. A champion. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that I’m loved for the exact same reasons.” – Kobe Bryant

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f5cd064970c Count Istvan

    Let’s see 17 rings to 14 for LA…oops 9 for LA.
    Finals record when the two franchises play each other… 9 Celtics 2 Lakers
    The last time they played each other in the finals… Oh Celtics 4 Lakers 2. 131-92. OUCH!!!
    Play off All Time Record…
    Celtics 40 Lakers 27
    All Time Record
    Celtics 151 Lakers 119.
    Wow it seems to me in every head to head category the Celtics kick the Lakers asses and Wilbon is full of shit.

  • GreenIsGood

    from one Celtic fan to another, you r making us all look like idiots. We didn’t have to beat the champs to get ours last year. Really if you are gonna defend celtics fans/the celtics try using your brain. Hypothetical arguements stink of desperation. If you have something to say at least make it smart. Papa Irish your so not the person to be fighting for our cause. We are the lucky ones that KG’s injury wasn’t career ending and that we didn’t have to face Lakers without him. We should be thankfull that we arn’t in the position Orlando is now. Don’t get all twisted by your homerness…we lost to Orlando so be smart and just keep your opinions to yourself cause they are weak

  • GreenIsGood

    Homers and bandwagon fans are the worst. Don’t forget we lost both against LA this season.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p01156f5cd064970c Count Istvan

    Shit you’re right! Throw out all of those numbers I posted showing Boston’s dominance over the Minneapolis/St.Paul/Los Angeles Lakers…because they lost to them twice this year!
    Since I don’t live anywhere close to Boston I am not being a homer and since I have been a fan for 25 years I think that bandwagon thing is out as well.