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RedsArmyAdmin February 6, 2009 Uncategorized 13 Comments

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After getting 5 minutes of sleep and deleting about 100 pretty vulgar Laker troll comments, I just want to address some of the things that are being said by Celtics fans.

1: The refs were horrbile last night.  I agree.  And they were horrible for both sides.  It was one of those games where if Ray makes that shot, Lakers fans are all crying about the refs and its Celtics fans who are telling them to accept it.  Yes, the foul the disqualified KG was insanely bad.  But you can probably find an equally bad call on the other side.  For some reason, David Stern is happy with the refs being a subject of conversation after every big game.

2: Eddie House and his minutes.  Eddie was on fire last night.  He didn't get crunch time minutes.  Ok, I can see how that's an issue on the surface.  But who would he come in for?  It can't be for Rondo, because we needed a sure-handed ball handler.  It's not like we were down 6 and we needed 3's.  The Lakers didn't take a 2nd half lead until the overtime.  He's not coming in for Ray Allen or Paul Pierce, no matter how gassed Pierce looked.  Pierce was playing great D on Kobe, which Eddie wouldn't do.  He's not coming in for Perk, obviously.  Which leaves Glen Davis.

The Lakers did a good job of defending and forcing Davis to take jumpers.  Hell, Davis gave the Celtics a lead in the overtime with a jumper… and he made a huge hustle play late in the 4th.  But does that mean Eddie comes in for him?  And does what… guard Lamar Odom?  Pau Gasol?

Yes Eddie was on fire.  But I don't see what giving the Lakers and obvious mismatch does to help.

3: The last play.  Ray has 5 seconds to inbound.  Rondo faked going for the alley oop, Paul tried to hold off his defender to receive the ball, and Eddie House was trying to sneak behind everyone.  After 3 seconds, he gets the ball into Davis who immediately hands it off to Ray.  The Lakers had that play defended well.  You probably could have called a foul at the end… but you can probably say that of every last-second shot ever taken.

Doc has had a stellar string of out-of-bounds plays working out.  The Lakers defended it well, and Ray couldn't get a clean look.

Really, what no one is talking about is how gassed Paul Pierce looked.  He wasn't moving well at the end and he couldn't take over.  He missed some key free throws in the overtime that could have changed the complexion of the game.  He looked like he simply ran out of energy.  I wonder if he's fighting the same flu that other guys are dealing with.

Herald:  For KG, a killerCeltics feeling foulIt's official, Doc's unhappyRay hangs with stars |  Globe:  Gloom and broomPoor judgement callAllen again an All StarSetback sickens Garnett |  Camerato:  is this really just another game? |  Souza:  Reversal of fortune

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  • inferno

    Nora…please hush.
    I understand why Big Baby was in there for overtime, but not down the stretch when the game was in regulation…House was on fire and PP was a little off last night…as a Laker fan watching the game I was relieved and shocked that when buckets were sorely needed House was doing an ML Carr from the bench…
    I also understand that Davis is a better defensive option than House and the mismatch would have been evident, but…lets be honest…KOBE was going to have the ball in his hands regardless of who was on the floor…and in a game where both teams have scored over 100 points, clearly defense wasn’t winning this one…get the shooter in there and make something happen…I imagine the +/- minutes for House was outrageous last night…give me a shooter in crunch time…and a hot shooter at that…
    Thanks Doc…
    Go Lakers

  • Boston Man

    Kobe is just an amazing player. Pierce was on him like glue yet he still managed to hit his shots. I was even surprised he hit rim on that two pointer. When peirce went up to contest that shot, i was sure it was gonna be an air ball.
    I’m not sure if i want Cleveland or the Lakers to win….

  • AboveTheRim

    Paul was gassed b/c he did a hell of a job defending Kobe. The 3s Kobe hit were in Paul’s eye. He had a hand in his face all night. You needed that effort defensively and hope you have someone like Ray, Rondo, or Eddie who could get a bucket at the other end.

  • Doctor Hardwood

    Completely accurate commentary by RedsArmy. Yes, KG’s 6th foul was ridiculous, especially after seeing the replay of Gasol raking him across the arm. But I wouldn’t expect the refs to call that on Gasol at that stage in the game, and I wouldn’t expect them to call a 6th on KG for that incidental contact. We all know the refs usually let guys play at that stage, but it is what it is.
    Two things, to my mind, that hindered us from winning last night were:
    1. We let the Lakers shoot a ridiculously high % from the field.
    2. We had no one to pick up the offense when the Lakers clamped down on Ray and Paul.
    I know people are probably tired of hearing me rant about how we miss PJ and Posey, but it’s true. Last year, those Big Baby jumpers late in the game would have been taken by one or both of those guys. It was painful to watch us struggle last night on offense at the end of the 4th and in OT as the Lakers figured out that we had no one to pick up the slack. (I don’t fault Big Baby here, he had tremendous hustle and was playing his heart out). But we do need another offensive threat when one of our Big Three goes down or fouls out. We can beat a Philly or a Minnesota without all three, but we’re going to need help against the big rivals in the Playoffs.
    I’m really proud of our team and how we played last night. It was a great game that hopefully can teach us a few things.

  • dave

    I completely understand why Davis got the crunch time minutes, but I wanted to see more Leon. He was playing great, and I think he always plays the Lakers tough. I understand Baby has been more consistent, but Powe was all over the glass and pretty hot last night.
    Disclaimer: I am an unabashed Powe Folkster

  • Fsantos33

    Last year and this year almost have the same flavor as 1984 and 1985. I was a rookie fan back then but watched a lot of epic finals on tape (84′ and 85′) Celtics won the title in 84′ when the Lakers were favorites to win it all, the following year in 85′ the Lakers came back determined to win at the Garden and they did. My point is this year’s Lakers reminds me of the determination and urgency of that 85′ Lakers team. (Relax Laker fans I am not comparing the players)
    From my observation this year’s Celtics team isn’t showing the championship Defense like last year and when was the last time a championship team leads the NBA in turnovers.. C’s does this year.
    Lakers came in to our house and beat us period. No excuses. Its a lost cause to blame the refs, PP being tired, KG fouled out, min’s played, who’s in and who’s out, etc. The only way to redeem ourselves now is to make it to the finals and beat the Lakers – Period.
    How are we going to make it back to the finals again?
    To Mr. Danny Ainge: Like John said – I’ve been saying this before the season after we lost Posey to free agency. We need a Solid Big bad and an extra shooter will be nice too.
    In my opinion without an upgrade to the bench prior the playoffs the Celtics won’t make it pass the Cavs or Lakers. Posey, PJ and Sam Played critical roles on the title run last year that’s what is missing this year and it showed last night. Trading deadline is coming up Mr. Ainge. Get to work sir.
    Go Celtics
    PS: inferno you got in to the live blog because I helped sponsor your admission – It was LOL when Powell, Mihm and Luke scored in the first half. My best friend is a die hard Laker fan and he loves to make fun of them too. LOL

  • Lex

    These two losses rank right up there with the two in 87

  • Danno

    At least Celtics fans show up on time for the game and stay till the end, even when the game isn’t on national TV, or against a marquee competitor.
    Lakers games at the Staples Center are like Baseball games at Yankee Stadium. People go to be seen, get their face on TV, and brag about it after.
    Nobody actually cares about the game.

  • ryan

    Great game to watch but nobody is taking about the Lakers shooting a terrible freethrow perdcentage. If they hit theyre free throws they would of won by about 6 or 7. All I’m saying is if Bosoton lost at home to the Lakers on the 2nd of a back to back WITHOUT bynum how are they gonna do if he comes back and is the anchor on d. Not to mention gasol really played great tonight. what are your thoughts??

  • cmonfanz

    the fans at the garden last night were pretty lame. I wouldve booed all those bad calls. i wouldve cheered lowder. I would have been rowdy. the garden looked like the staples center in the finals last year…..well without booing the home team.

  • thetitleisours

    I think the ref’s determined the outcome of this particular GAME. Getting KG out was the key.
    That being said, it is clear the LA is the better TEAM.
    We would lose in a seven game series, especially if we did not have the home field advantage. We need additional bench help up front

  • Smartone

    Alright DRJ you asked for it. You want to keep saying that this game was disgusting, then it’s only fair i get to point out another disgusting game. Game 2 of the “finals” last year

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