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Should I Be Worried Now?

RedsArmyAdmin January 7, 2009 Uncategorized 17 Comments

You know how Manny Ramirez actually HURT his reputation by being so awesome for the Dodgers… that it confirmed he dogged it Boston? Well… the Celtics are sort of setting themselves up for something similar. If they come out and dominate tomorrow night at home against Houston… they're going to confirm that they have a big time problem on the road. This is starting to leave "lull" territory and creep into "concerning."

The C's dropped their 5th of 7 games… this one a 114 – 106 loss to Charlotte in overtime.

Box Score | Recap

The Celtics were in full schizophrenic mode in this one. At one point, I wanted to take the shoe that flew off Rondo's foot (seriously Rajon… again?) and throw it through my TV. The Celtics were starting to build a lead in the second quarter when they fell apart (as detailed in the previous post). They continued to flat out suck during the process of falling behind by 10 points in the 3rd. It was classic "road Celtics" mode: guys were just standing around and no one seemed interested in being there at all. Rondo even tried to feed the left post from the right elbow. Huh?

Suddenly, something clicked and they woke up. The defense became stifling again. The Celtics actually won the 3rd quarter and built a lead of their own. Rondo was in full "Rondo" mode, complete with wild, violent, sprawling falls.

And then, Adam Morrison went nuts. Raymond Felton hit big shots. And we had a battle on our hands. In overtime, we saw the same frustrating mistakes (a Garnett travel, which they're calling A LOT on him this year) and missed rotations (an insanely easy Emeka Okafor dunk) that have frustrated us over the past few weeks. Ray Allen (7-20 fg, 3-11 3pt) started out hot and then his shot disappeared. He and KG (7-18 fg) missed good looks in the overtime. If they had just hit a few of those shots, this ending would have been different.

Question for the C's: In last year's playoffs, Paul Pierce became the unquestioned "go-to" guy… option #1 when the C's needed a bucket. So why hasn't that really been the case this year? Why did it take the last 2 minutes of OT for Pierce to have the ball in his hand every time?

And one thing I'd like to mention about Charlotte: I think DJ Augestin is underrated. I know this year's rookie class is all about Derrick Rose, OJ Mayo and Michael Beasley… but Augestin is pretty good. And for a rookie to step up and go 12-12 from the line, half of them in OT, against the Champs is a big deal.

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  • inferno

    Nothing ignorant about it…I live in New England…I watch Celtic basketball all the time…
    Tim….the fact that you put Reggie Miller and Jordan in the same sentence eliminates your commentary from the realm of the sane…
    JD…I didn’t say that’s why or how they won…to get out of a skid like this, you NEED a guy who says “Get out of my way and let me win it.” Magic did it…Bird did it…Jordan did it…and Kobe does it…if this Celtic team- with a target on its back ( as those teams had and have ) -want to break a slide like this they need a killer…don’t have one.
    celts9…what the hell was that? Is Posey the answer?
    Go Lakers.

  • celts9

    Posey was guarding Bryant in the second quarter and fouled the Lakers’ star early on a drive, but as Bryant continued to the hoop after the whistle blew Posey took a whack at him. That drew a technical foul from Joey Crawford. It was worth it. Posey made his point, without giving a free one to the Lakers, as Bryant missed the free throw.
    “They tell the defender to stop,” Posey said. “If I should stop, the offensive player should stop, as well. I wasn’t allowing continuation on that.
    “That’s just how I play. I make my presence felt. Not just that, but throughout the course of the game. That’s just how I play.”
    thats the mentality the c’s need to regain on D, im still saying its just a speedbump in the season but if they’re not careful it could turn into more than that. hopefully they can get fired up about the Cavs game.

  • JD

    Yeah, inferno, don’t post if you don’t know what you’re talking about. The Celtics didn’t win last year because they had a “go to man.” They won with a balanced offense and a stifling defense. So far, the offense has been wildly inefficient (with all the turnovers), and the defense just hasn’t been there.

  • Tim (FD)

    Listen my man… that might have been one of the most ignorant posts in the history of this website. Paul Pierce is the most clutch player the league has seen since Reggie Miller, and Jordan before that.
    If I had to pick one player in the league to take the final shot for my team, it would be Pierce every single time, and never Kobe.

  • double P reppin the B

    I know its a combination of things but damn with some better play calling down the stretch despite everything else, I think we still would have won that game.

  • cfkmoney

    Doc talked a lot about limiting the big three’s minutes this year and it hasn’t happened. mix things up doc! show some lineups that teams haven’t seen, that create mismatches for the other team. its the same combination of guys every night. they’ll bounce back soon…
    Did the lakers write the celts schedule this year??? in Toronto…vs Toronto followed by in New Jersey…vs New Jersey??

  • http://redsarmy.com BigMck

    Doc needs to do something to get this turned around. I’m not blaming him at all for the stretch of poor play, but this is where good coaches step it up. Get the boys back on track…DOC!!

  • Doctor Hardwood

    Our team needs to be called out. I can understand missing shots. I can understand bad calls. I can understand guys having an off night. I can understand opposing players getting hot. What I can’t understand is not boxing out, not rebounding, not pushing the ball, not playing tenacious defense, not making crisp passes, not finding the best shot or the hot teammate, and not going after loose balls. We look like we don’t care out there. And there is NO EXCUSE for that from a Celtics team.

  • Lakers 24 7

    Hang in there C’s. I honestly don’t know why the Bobcats can’t be an elite team, they really do have a lot of talent. It happens.

  • bigsco

    I think Doc needs to have a talk with everyone. He needs to yell a little bit, he needs to tell Rondo to get his head out of his butt sometimes, he needs to yell at Alpha Dog Pierce when he makes one of his three crap passes to someones foot every game. He needs to coach, not just sub players. Scal is not an option, i am sorry, he just is not. Call up Bill Walker and get him in there, Big Baby was given his shot as a rookie, why not Walker or Giddons? I know everyone loves Scal, but he is not good, and not good enough to be in this rotation.

  • http://www.lakers.com Rene

    The Lakers went through the same thing, Boston will snap out of it. But damn, that is quite a few losses.

  • G4L

    Why is everyone freaking out… The C’s won the NBA Championship plus dominated 19 straight games!! They didn’t all of a sudden lose it. Its just a little skid, they’ll turn it back on. Take it easy.

  • Kurt Rambis

    ” . . . Manny Ramirez actually HURT his reputation by being so awesome for the Dodgers . . . ”
    Bringing the Dodgers into this? Chanting ‘Beat LA’ at the Sixers game? Your LA obsession is unhealthy. But your fear of the Lakers is justified.
    The Celts aren’t as bad as they appear right now. There’s a LONG way to go ’til June. In other words, you have exactly 6 months to call yourselves champs.
    You still have as good a shot as anyone – – – to win the EAST, that is.
    Rambis out!

  • ssshady35

    I think the Celtics need to put some of these teams on their ASS!! Let me explain, A rookie thinks he can walk up to PP and talk shit? Pierce should of knocked him out and any other Bobcat that came up to him. Teams do not have respect for us, they think they can say or do anything they want and get away with it. I think if Tommy was there he of said “in the old days we would not of let them get away with that” we need to be like the Pistons and the Celtics of the 80’s. I would not even care if big baby would of got up after the flagerent foul that Howard had and got into a pushing match with him. Doc might even need to get ejected to get these guys fired up. Just my thoughts what do you guys think?????

  • What up

    LOL @ Everyone willing to point fingers this way and that way, Ray shot bad, this team goes as rondo goes, the bench is terrible blah blah blah…KG is not pulling his weight right now, hes been really bad guys, are you blind? if hes injured, give him rest he clearly needs it

  • bryan

    suckers

  • chap

    i agree with the titleisours. scal is bad. bring someone else up. big baby can cause problems though. scal should go where he belongs… the nbdl, or maybe the nets again. he was doing good before he came here. 6.3 ppg and 4.5 rpg. Plus an incredible 39% field goal shooter. OOHHH MAMA!! THATS WICKED PISSA! Go to Utah Scal