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Paul Pierce > Kobe Bryant

RedsArmyAdmin June 10, 2008 Uncategorized 29 Comments

This is always a fun one for Lakers fans.  We've been saying this for a while.  In facthere's a little something from 2 years ago

The simple fact of the matter is that Paul Pierce is, was, and will continue to be better for an NBA team than Kobe Bryant. 

Sure, Kobe's more explosive, athletic and prone to give you a "SportsCenter" moment… but Paul Pierce has been just as effective,  more efficient, and a better influence on his team.  Their career averages are all virtually equal… yet Pierce has had far fewer public meltdowns and squabbles.

And now, in these NBA Finals, both players are putting their legacies on the line.  Pierce risks being branded as a second-tier star that is doomed to a ring-less retirement and a slow fade into obscurity as the years pass.  Kobe risks being the guy who could never climb into that pantheon of mega-stars that could single-handedly carry his team to a title.

Everyone (at least, everyone not in Boston) figured Kobe was a lock.  The word "coronation" was thrown around a lot.  But the funny thing is that so far… Paul Pierce is the far better player.  In fact… their Finals numbers look a lot like their career numbers:  Pierce is averaging a couple of points less while taking fewer shots and shooting a higher percentage.

At this rate, Paul Pierce will be the Finals MVP… and Kobe faces the prospect of never getting out of Shaq's shadow.  LA fans will never accept that Pierce is in Kobe's class… but Pierce isn't giving rational basketball fans much choice. 

(He's also winning over the media… both nationally…(here too)… and at home)

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  • rvr

    “No one on the lakers is all-star caliber besides kobe. He’s got a solid group of guys that work well together but wouldn’t be anything spectacular outside of the team.”
    huh, that’s funny. cuz i thought lakers fans saw gasol as the second coming, kobe’s much-needed superstar. you know, the one who would give the team desperately needed post presence and complete the triangle, while not threatening princess kobe’s fragile ego or his role as the supposed team leader. guess he’s just a solid guy who wouldn’t be anything spectacular on his own… meaning without kobe.

  • Matty S.

    When Kobe tries to take over tonight because he’s 2 games in the hole and costs the Lakers the game, it will be glorious…

  • http://www.ld2k.com LD2k

    Another thought. The media bashes into Kobe for not being able to win without Shaq, yet no one mentions Pierce now has two All-Stars next to him (Allen, Garnett). I find it sort’ve ironic.
    Could one make the same argument PP can’t win without a superstar(s) either?
    However, Peirce has come closer without another star – more so than Kobe. But difference in the toughness of the conferences plays into that. This year, however, Celtics dominated pretty much the whole league. It’ll be interesting how it plays out.

  • Ajay

    This is a joke just watch when lakers win tonight game 3 everbody will be back and say is Kobe pierce is nowhere near Kobe

  • http://www.redsarmy.com redsarmy

    I don’t think many players can win without another superstar. But I think Kobe WANTS to do it. Pierce just wants the ring.

  • another tim

    i could listen to pierce is better than kobe talk all day.
    also, whitlock begins a sentence with “Unskilled Boston reserve Leon Powe…” so there’s clearly something wrong with him.

  • Bill

    Red’s Army…spreading The Truth for over two years. It’s why I read.

  • Flabbergasted

    No doubt that Paul Pierce is a great ball player, but to say Pierce is better for a team than Kobe is nothing short of pure homerism. You may as well pucker up and plant one in between Pierce’s cheeks (you pick which ones) while he is bent over. Pierce wasn’t even on the map until #5 and #20 came into the picture. Sad thing is that those who aren’t Laker fans hate Kobe merely for the fact that he is playing for an opposing team. I guarantee if Kobe was playing for the Celtics, you’d be singing a much different tune.
    Try writing something that actually makes sense. It may just boost your credibility.

  • yung clown

    fucc all u faggots…lakers in 6 bitch…fucc gay all, kevin garnott & pussy pierce

  • niki

    Kobe is taking this series on his back and carrying his team to a championship. PP is a baby, a faker, and an overall inferior player to kobe. Suck a fat one celtic fans

  • Nick

    I can’t believe the PP>KB is even a discussion, show me numbers where pierce has ever avg. 34 in a season, show me one time when pierce was all nba defense 1st team, not to mention the fact kobe has been on that team how many years in a row! all nba 1st team!? 81 pt. game, 3 titles, nba mvp, all star mvp, give me a break if PP had half of the career as kobe he would be a first ballot hall of famer. in addition to all that, i dont think an nba team led by kobe would finish in the cellar as the pierce led celtics did!? but yea pierce over kobe is a lock!!! hahahaha

  • jonny

    just as two games in the finals shouldn’t coronate PP as better, one crap game from PP shouldn’t take him out of the running. .
    it’s certainly an interesting debate. i personally don’t think there’s much merit to the discussion though. . .
    Not to take anything away from PP (he’s a fantastic talent) but as far as statistical similarities, Shareef Abdur-Rahim was a 20/9 guy on a bad team. .(i know, who?) emphasis on bad team (which, no offense, you guys were until this season)
    “Their Finals numbers look a lot like their career numbers: Pierce is averaging a couple of points less while taking fewer shots and shooting a higher percentage..”
    that’s a misleading statement, because while it’s true for the finals, it’s not true for their career numbers.
    for his career PP is averaging 23/6.5/4 on 44.2% shooting, while Kobe is averaging 25/5/4.5 on 45.3% shooting.
    and in case you didn’t get the discrepancy PP is shooting a lower percentage
    “At this rate, Paul Pierce will be the Finals MVP…”
    this is a much more reasonable discussion, although its not one that laker fans such as myself would like to entertain.

  • LAKERS

    haha u guys are pathetic. SUCK IT!

  • Black Mamba

    Wow Pierce WTF, He is good but not Kobe Good

  • kb24bestever

    hey if yall say pierce its better to have on a team then kobe then why did the lakers make it to the playoffs last two years because of kobe and what about the celtics they didnt even make it to the playoffs and pierce had a better supporting cast last year o and i almost forgot yall in the east so yall go get yall facts straight and show the best player on earth its respect because what i remember its kevin garnet running for M.V.P not pierce.
    we taking the series 4-2
    GO LAKERS

  • lol

    lol

  • redsarmybloggersRsad

    You guys are sad. Kobe would never ever ever go 2-14 in any playoff game. BOOK THAT. Not one boston fan here could man up and disagree with the author of the thread. Everyone of you guys know that you’d swap Pierce for Kobe in a heart beat. Kobe led Smush, injury prone kwame, lamar and Walton to the playoffs in the grueling west and he’s avg 30ppg 6rb 6asst on 50% fg thru out the playoffs without shaq. LET ME KNOW WHEN PIERCE DOES THAT.

  • teo

    Are you serious? Wow. This is the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard. This is all coming from a celtic fans point of view. Tell me one time that you heard on ESPN Paul Pierce is better than Kobe? Go ahead count, exactly none. Kobe has accomplished so much more it’s sad to even say PP is better as a joke! And Tuesday night PP scored what 6 points? Oh yeah definately GOAT. Kobe right now is the best basketball player in the league everyone knows it, there is no point of starting an argument over that. So PP is better than him? That’s why his team went to a game 7 with the Atlanta Hawks?!?!?!?!??! I don’t think Kobe has had a 6 point game in the past 8 years, except for the times he got injured during the game. PP is a scoring machine, but he is nothing compared to Kobe. PP’s career high is 50 points, he did it once! Kobe has equaled or surpassed that many times, once by 31 points! Paul Pierce will need to play 2 great games to score 81 points. You guys are probably thinking “What about defense?” Kobe is one of the best defensive players in the league, in the top 5 easily. So don’t talk.
    KB24>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PP34

  • http://thelakersnation.com deerek

    LOL, these celtics kids are really hopeful.
    so cute.

  • Mamba strikes again.

    lol what a dumb ass.

  • http://www.fuckyoudumbass.com Whothefuckgavethisguyasite?

    Wow…. what a fucking idiot. I guess you expected only Celtics fans to come here and all agree with you to make your dumb ass think your are right.
    Pierce sure played good in game 3, huh? Better then Kobe in game 1?

  • http://redsarmy.com BigMck

    I love the influx of Lakers fans. The collective IQ of our readership just dropped 80 points. Your defense of Kobe will look foolish once LA loses this series and Bryant starts demanding a trade…again.

  • http://LOL.com Mitch Cupcake

    Didn’t Pierce want a trade if the C’s didn’t get help? LOL hypocrites

  • another tim

    i wouldnt trade pierce for kobe.
    i dont even think i could like the celtics if they had kobe.
    and, although the national announcers are idiots, one of them (van gundy i think) was talking in game 2 about how pp doesnt get the respect he deserves because no player has ever been able to do everything he can. everybody that wants to blow kobe (looking at you stephen a. smith) can talk about him being the next mj, but they can’t compare pierce to anyone.
    just like a 17 year old girl, the national media is going to regret being all over kobe’s dick.

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  • estan_0223

    You know the problem with this whole thing is that Kobe may be the best “player” in the NBA, but “players” don’t win championships, teams do. Teams play defense. Teams dominate. You can list all the stats you want that “prove” Kobe is better, but three weeks from now, when Kobe demands to be traded, we will see how loyal Lakers fans are to the best player on the planet.

  • http://eastcoastisbeast Justin

    where are the lakers(kobe) fans now?FUCKIN CUNTS…kobe is highly overated.I’ve told people over and over, kobe will never ever win another ring without shaq. He is nowhere close to Jordan. on the other hand Paul pierce can play ball one-on-one with kobe.i don’t car what any of you all say…When your team is down 24 on the road in the nba finals and you will them back to victory.THAT is what greatness is.and pual pierce has greatness.celtics in 5!!!!

  • tyra

    paul will never be like kobe cause paul SUCK HAHAHAHA

  • http://transient777.blogspot.com tRaNsIeNt

    This is one of the great great great blogs in blog history, you should continue straight on revealing The Truth, it must be told, even if nobody is willing to listen and accept it yet, in time The Truth will smash them in the face.
    Could someone post or tell me where I can find the career head to head matchup stats for Pierce vs cryant ?
    thanks