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Now Do You Remember…. ?

RedsArmyAdmin May 1, 2008 Uncategorized 10 Comments

…. why Tony Allen doesn't play anymore?

One of the loudest calls (used in support of the "fire Doc now" argument") after game 4 was "where was Tony Allen?  Isn't he supposed to our defensive specialist?"

I'm just curious… after seeing him airball a 3… and then seconds later foul Joe Johnson while taking a 3… do you still think Doc is an idiot for not playing him in game 4? 

Just FYI… Tony Allen played his way out of those minutes at the end of the season… and he reminded us of that last night.  You want to know why Joe Johnson didn't break out and go completely nuts last night?  Team defense.  Ray Allen still checked him… but unlike game 4… Ray got help.  Ray got help all season long… when we all knew he wasn't a good 1-on-1 defender.  Game 4 showed us what happens when you hang someone out to dry.  Game 5 showed us what happens when the team helps on D.

Sorry TA… hope you do well on your next team.  I don't think we'll be seeing much more of you on the court for the C's.

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  • Dave

    I completely agree with your assessment of how TA played himself out of the playoffs down the stretch. For a while, I wanted TA on the floor in place of House because instead of having an offensive game consisting only of spot 3s, Allen was good at attacking the basket/creating shots. But he blew big time in the last month and was painful to watch. I’m all for giving a guy a chance to get his rythem back….just not in the playoffs.

  • William

    He was the only Celtic with a negative +/- for the game….
    http://www.nba.com/games/20080430/ATLBOS/boxscore.html
    Now, I want TA to contribute, but if he can’t then I don’t want to see him. Tough love.

  • Juan Jimenez

    Come on guys, Tony is a little rusty. And that Joe Johnson foul could’ve gone either way. Other than those 3 free throws, Joe Johnson wasn’t doing anything when Tony was guarding him. I agree that the team defense stepped up in game 5 , but when the team defense is not clicking you need guys with defensive skills to make the stops. TA has got those skills. Putting TA in for some situational D or to disrupt the other teams premier scorer is all we need from Tony. No 3’s or outside shots, just hard D, and an occasional drive to the basket. Just give Tony 5 minutes a game and I don’t think he can possibly hurt us bad as you make him out to be.

  • Jester00

    drunk by the pool bar in maui, even I could still see your points about TA. I think I was wrong about him being a stopper, his head just is not there.

  • Jeff

    I have to say, I haven’t seen many games this year( just workign too much…) BUT– it was VERY evident that Tony was lost on the floor last night. As a coach it was painful to watch. If you watched the game it was pretty obvious he didn’t belong out there last night.
    I love Tony’s athleticism, but his head just wasn’t in the game last night.

  • I bleed green in L.A.

    Tony was just missing his headband, that’s all. I still prefer a younger, more energetic defender on a shooter, just to disrupt his shot, fight through the picks and maybe get in his head. And if Joe Johnson, Wally or RIP chooses to drive to the hoop instead, that takes away there best attribute and brings the TEAM defense into play-i.e. Perk/KG/Powe padding there block/rebound stats.

  • Lakerhater

    I bleed green in LA- Scaly has already contributed more in this series than TA, remember it was scal who restrained Pauly from walking over to the ATL bench and bitch slapping Horford. Besides, is there anything more demeaning to your opponent than hearing the horn blow and seeing Scaly enter the game setting up to guard your power forward with 5 minutes remaining. Its only a matter of time before Scaly erupts for another huge 8 point game.

  • G4L

    So you guys are saying you would rather see TA coming off the bench before Posey, Cassell.. or even E. House? Yeah I didn’t think so. Whats wrong with having TA off the bench after them.. nothing!! You can’t deny that everytime he’s come off the bench he’s stunk it up. & if your argument is based on more minutes.. well then he should definitely sit because he’s only going to play a hand full of minutes at best.
    So TA enjoy the ride because you’ll be packing your bags soon.

  • I bleed green in L.A.

    And Scal only in a life or death situation.

  • Tim (FD)

    It’s almost 4 AM so I don’t have the energy to respond… I’m just going to say I win this one.
    Oh, and I just wanted to thank Dave, as I just quoted him in my year-end paper on +/- statistics. Thanks Dave, that comment really came in handy…. hopefully you know what you are talking about.